Mailman 3 October 2003 - SpamBayes

RE: [Spambayes] Drag and Drop does not work when in "Find" mode
by Meyer, Tony Oct. 1, 2003

Oct. 1, 2003

> I have installed SpamBayes (Outlook Addin beta, Binary > Version 0.6 July 29, 2003) in Outlook 2002 (Office XP) running > on Windows 2000 Professional SP2. [...] > Any suggestions on how I can leave SpamBayes installed and > still have the drag and drop function work while using the > "Find" or "Advanced Find" feature in Outlook. I don't know whether this will work or not, but a lot of things have been fixed since version 006, so this might have been as well (although I don't recall seeing a description like this before, it might be related to the dialog problems that have been fixed). In any case, it would definitely be worth downloading 008.1 and seeing if that fixes the problem. =Tony Meyer

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SpamAtBay 1.1 Final Beta available.
by Sean True Oct. 1, 2003

Oct. 1, 2003

It's been a while since I updated the list on where we were with SpamAtBay/InBoxer. We are now in the prerelease cycle for 1.1, and I am announcing a final beta. I plan to wait a week and then change the version string and call it a release. SpamAtBay is a commercial spam filter for Outlook 2000+, based on the open source Spambayes project, extended with bug fixes, functionality, documentation, and support. We share ideas and occasional code with Mark Hammond. Many of the features announced here have been added independently to the SpamBayes code base. We've (regretably, and with regrets) forked the Outlook code. Mark adds features faster than we can absorb them, and we have a customer base to _answer_ to. The core engine remains the same, thank goodness. Brief history: I wrote the first, really, really bad integration with Outlook, using VBA and a Python COM server. Mark Hammond thought the idea was neat, but that the execution was, err, flawed, and pretty much rewrote it from scratch. Over the last 5 months, I've had a team of several people working on polishing, layout, docs, QA, and (gag) marketing oriented features. We have released a version for sale under the InBoxer label which is getting very nice reviews (most of the credit to the developers here). We're focusing on Tim's "easy enough for my sister" metric. Supported systems: Win98SE, ME, NT 4, Win2K, XP; Outlook 2000/2002/XP/2003. Not supported: Win95; Outlook Express. If you were a beta tester for 1.0 you already have a permanent activation code. If you are a SpamBayes developer (code, docs, frequent question on the list answerer, etc) you can ask me for an activation code, and get one. If you are interested in testing SpamAtBay or evaluating, you get a 14 day trial from our standard download site. Go to http://sean.t.spamatbay.com/referafriend.fhtml and fill out the brief form. A download link will come back to you via email. If you want to test the other product built from this codebase, you can find it at http://www.inboxer.com. InBoxer comes with a 21 day free trial, and SpamBayes developers (see above for loose definition) are also entitled to a free activation key. Feel free to use it for a parent or a sibling. Then they can call us instead of you. ================================================================ Changes to SpamAtBay Version 1.1 New features include : * The advanced menu now offers an option for merging an external database of Spam statistics with your current database. You can use this feature for sharing your Spam statistics with friends, or for merging Spam statistics provided by us. * There is a checkbox in the filter dialog (which can be reached from the control panel) which enables the new "Mark Spam as read" feature. Messages which are categorized as spam by statistics, or which are designated as spam using the toolbar button are marked as "read" before being moved into the Spam folder. * There is a new button on the control panel which will allow you to change the data directory. If you use multiple workstations to read your mail, but only use them one at the time, and you have access to a network drive you can use this button to let each workstation access your personal Spam statistics. Simultaneous access by two users, or by two copies of Outlook from the same user is not supported. * Multiple Outlook profiles are now supported: when you upgrade to version 1.1 your statistics databases will be copied into new profile specific files. Additional profiles will use unique statistics files, and if you downgrade to version 1.0 any changes to your statistics since the installation of version 1.1 will be lost. * Hotmail folders are now supported for filtering, and can be watched like any other Outlook mail folder in Outlook 2002, Outlook XP, and Outlook 2003. The Hotmail "junk mail" folder cannot be watched. This is a limitation of Microsoft Outlook. * A new menu item, Filter Current Folder Now, has been added to the advanced menu. This menu item allows you to quickly filter your currently selected folder. * A system tray icon now shows when the software is actively filtering messages. Typically, this will happen right after Outlook downloads messages into your inbox. The system tray icon will also show a green envelope when there is non-spam waiting to be read. Double-clicking the system tray icon when the green envelope is present will read the oldest unread, non-Spam message. The green envelope will show only mail that arrives in folders we are watching. * If you hover over the system tray icon, the software will now show you statistics of Spam, non--Spam, and unsure messages for the current run of Outlook, as well as how many messages are waiting to be seen with a double-click. * Right clicking on the system tray icon brings up a popup menu. * The system tray icon can be disabled and enabled from the Control Panel. * The sliders in the filtering dialog which set the threshold above which a message will be categorized as unsure, or as spam, are now linked in such a way that the threshold for unsure Spam cannot be set higher than the threshold for certain Spam; and so that the threshold for certain Spam cannot be set lower than the threshold for unsure Spam. * Outlook 2003 is now show is completely supported by the install dialog. * The size of the adults, health, and money statistics databases have been decreased, and they will now adapt faster to your personal definitions. In general, these databases have been superseded by the default database, and will be made into an optional download in a future version of the software. Other specialized databases for particular kinds of Spam may also be made available for download. * In Outlook 2003, we now use any messages in the "Junk E-mail" folder as training messages. * The Setup Wizard now warns the user if the configuration that was selected is not valid, which can happen if the user cancels the Setup Wizard. * The registration code is now insensitive to leading or trailing blanks. Bug fixes: * Uninstall will now optionally uninstall all data files, allowing you to do a complete uninstall of the program. The default behavior is to leave data files intact, while uninstalling the program files. This allows you to uninstall and install an upgrade of the software without losing your current Spam statistics. * Mail filtering is now disabled during training, and when you are manually filtering a selected folder. Items which come and during these times will be filtered when the activities are complete. * Additional users on the same machine can now be installed without administrative privileges. Previously, the software allowed such installation but it did not work consistently. * Unicode folder names are now accepted, improving the usability of the software in non-English environments. * The size of the impersonal database has been reduced substantially, and the database will now adapt much more quickly to your personal definition of Spam. The database is still derived from more than 17,000 messages, but only the most significant information is now retained. * Microsoft Exchange compatibility has been improved, and failures due to temporary network or server issues appear to be less common. * We now put up an hourglass while building the folder views for selecting filters for training and filtering. * Occasionally, messages would get remarked unread after being read. This should now be corrected. * White list and blacklist code has been substantially improved, and will deal with bad or missing addresses better. In particular, this code should now work better with internal Exchange addresses, allowing you to white list all people on your own Exchange server. * The persistent bug with occasionally missing toolbar buttons now appears to be fixed. * The about dialog now shows the proper length of trial period for the software. * Toolbar buttons are now shown even when the inbox is empty at startup. Thanks for your indulgence and occasional encouragement. -- Sean Sean True and the SpamAtBay and InBoxer teams.

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trained as ham, classified as spam
by Gerrit Holl Oct. 1, 2003

Oct. 1, 2003

Hi, I have trained the forwarded message as ham, and fed it to sb_filter.py afterwards. It is still classified as spam! Does this mean that looks like ham, but looks much more like spam? Is there a way to have this false positive being classified as ham? ----- Forwarded message from rfc-editor(a)rfc-editor.org ----- Return-Path: <gerrit(a)nl.linux.org> Delivered-To: gerrit(a)localhost.student.utwente.nl Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by topjaklont.student.utwente.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06A43F775 for <gerrit@localhost>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ictlx034.civ.utwente.nl [130.89.1.29] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.2.0) for gerrit@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:43:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: by ictlx034 (mbox s0067253) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Wed Oct 1 20:43:55 2003) X-From_: gerrit(a)nl.linux.org Wed Oct 1 20:42:58 2003 Received: from netlx014.civ.utwente.nl (netlx014.civ.utwente.nl [130.89.1.88]) by ictlx034.civ.utwente.nl (8.11.6/STD) with ESMTP id h91Igwl12732 for <s0067253(a)ictlx034.civ.utwente.nl>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:42:58 +0200 Received: from humbolt.nl.linux.org (humbolt.nl.linux.org [131.211.28.48]) by netlx014.civ.utwente.nl (8.11.7/HKD) with ESMTP id h91Igu001268 for <g.holl(a)student.utwente.nl>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:42:56 +0200 Received: (from localhost user: 'gerrit' uid#1018 fake: STDIN (gerrit(a)humbolt.nl.linux.org)) by humbolt.nl.linux.org id <S16430AbTJASmq>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:42:46 +0200 Received: from boreas.isi.edu ([IPv6:::ffff:128.9.160.161]:9973 "EHLO boreas.isi.edu") by humbolt.nl.linux.org with ESMTP id <S16409AbTJASm2>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:42:28 +0200 Received: from boreas.isi.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.11.6p2+0917/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h91IeHb08351; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma.isi.edu (gamma.isi.edu [128.9.144.145]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.11.6p2+0917/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h91IbHb04719; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ISI.EDU (jet.isi.edu [128.9.160.87]) by gamma.isi.edu (8.11.6p2+0917/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h91IbHO19817; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 11:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200310011837.h91IbHO19817(a)gamma.isi.edu> To: rfc-dist(a)rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor(a)rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor(a)rfc-editor.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary=NextPart Subject: {Filename?} [rfc-dist] RFC 3638 on Applicability Statement for Reclassification of RFC 1643 to Historic Status Sender: Gerrit Holl <gerrit(a)nl.linux.org> Fake-Sender: rfc-dist-admin(a)mailman.rfc-editor.org Errors-To: rfc-dist-admin(a)mailman.rfc-editor.org X-BeenThere: rfc-dist(a)mailman.rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:rfc-dist-request@mailman.rfc-editor.org?subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:rfc-dist@mailman.rfc-editor.org> List-Subscribe: <http://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist>, <mailto:rfc-dist-request@mailman.rfc-editor.org?subject=subscribe> List-Id: RFC Announcements <rfc-dist.mailman.rfc-editor.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist>, <mailto:rfc-dist-request@mailman.rfc-editor.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://mailman.rfc-editor.org/pipermail/rfc-dist/> Old-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 11:37:17 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:42:46 +0200 X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact helpdesk(a)ITBE.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be infected X-UTwente-MailScanner-SpamScore: sss Status: RO Content-Length: 6409 Lines: 176 X-Spambayes-Trained: ham X-Spambayes-Classification: spam; 0.91 Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed Warning: (not named). Warning: Please read the "VirusWarning.txt" attachment(s) for more information. --------Nederlandse tekst-------- Waarschuwing: Er zijn 1 of meer bijlagen uit dit bericht verwijderd Waarschuwing: (not named). Waarschuwing: Lees de "VirusWarning.txt" bijlage voor meer informatie. A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 3638 Title: Applicability Statement for Reclassification of RFC 1643 to Historic Status Author(s): J. Flick, C. M. Heard Status: Informational Date: September 2003 Mailbox: johnf(a)rose.hp.com, heard(a)pobox.com Pages: 5 Characters: 8676 Obsoletes: 1643 I-D Tag: draft-ietf-hubmib-1643-to-historic-01.txt URL: ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3638.txt This memo recommends that RFC 1643 be reclassified as an Historic document and provides the supporting motivation for that recommendation. This document is a product of the Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB Working Group of the IETF. This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF list and the RFC-DIST list. Requests to be added to or deleted from the IETF distribution list should be sent to IETF-REQUEST(a)IETF.ORG. Requests to be added to or deleted from the RFC-DIST distribution list should be sent to RFC-DIST-REQUEST(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG. 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This is a message from the MailScanner E-Mail Virus Protection Service ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The original e-mail attachment "not named" was believed to be infected by a virus and has been replaced by this warning message. If you wish to receive a copy of the *infected* attachment, please e-mail helpdesk and include the whole of this message in your request. Alternatively, you can call them, with the contents of this message to hand when you call. At Wed Oct 1 20:42:57 2003 the virus scanner said: External message bodies cannot be scanned and are removed Note to ITBE Help Desk: Look on UT MailScanner in /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine/20031001 (message h91Igu001268). --------Nederlandse tekst-------- Dit is een bericht van het MailScanner virus beschermingssysteem ---------------------------------------------------------------- De oorspronkelijke e-mail bijlage "not named" scheen te zijn geinfecteerd door een virus. De bijlage is vervangen door deze waarschuwing. Indien u een kopie van de oorspronkelijke *besmette* bijlage wenst te ontvangen, verzoeken we u via e-mail contact op te nemen met de helpdesk. Voor een goede afhandeling van uw verzoek hebben we dit complete bericht (inclusief alle headers) nodig. Op Wed Oct 1 20:42:57 2003 de virusscanner meldde: External message bodies cannot be scanned and are removed Bericht voor de ITBE helpdesk: Kijk op UT MailScanner in /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine/20031001 (bericht h91Igu001268). -- UT Postmaster Mailscanner bedankt ttec Computers voor hun ondersteuning This is a message from the MailScanner E-Mail Virus Protection Service ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The original e-mail attachment "not named" was believed to be infected by a virus and has been replaced by this warning message. If you wish to receive a copy of the *infected* attachment, please e-mail helpdesk and include the whole of this message in your request. Alternatively, you can call them, with the contents of this message to hand when you call. At Wed Oct 1 20:42:57 2003 the virus scanner said: External message bodies cannot be scanned and are removed Note to ITBE Help Desk: Look on UT MailScanner in /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine/20031001 (message h91Igu001268). --------Nederlandse tekst-------- Dit is een bericht van het MailScanner virus beschermingssysteem ---------------------------------------------------------------- De oorspronkelijke e-mail bijlage "not named" scheen te zijn geinfecteerd door een virus. De bijlage is vervangen door deze waarschuwing. Indien u een kopie van de oorspronkelijke *besmette* bijlage wenst te ontvangen, verzoeken we u via e-mail contact op te nemen met de helpdesk. Voor een goede afhandeling van uw verzoek hebben we dit complete bericht (inclusief alle headers) nodig. Op Wed Oct 1 20:42:57 2003 de virusscanner meldde: External message bodies cannot be scanned and are removed Bericht voor de ITBE helpdesk: Kijk op UT MailScanner in /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine/20031001 (bericht h91Igu001268). -- UT Postmaster Mailscanner bedankt ttec Computers voor hun ondersteuning ----- End forwarded message ----- Gerrit. -- 179. If a "sister of a god," or a prostitute, receive a gift from her father, and a deed in which it has been explicitly stated that she may dispose of it as she pleases, and give her complete disposition thereof: if then her father die, then she may leave her property to whomsoever she pleases. Her brothers can raise no claim thereto. -- 1780 BC, Hammurabi, Code of Law -- Asperger Syndroom - een persoonlijke benadering: http://people.nl.linux.org/~gerrit/ Het zijn tijden om je zelf met politiek te bemoeien: http://www.sp.nl/

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Drag and Drop does not work when in "Find" mode
by Darrell.Comeau＠nserc.ca Oct. 1, 2003

Oct. 1, 2003

I have installed SpamBayes (Outlook Addin beta, Binary Version 0.6 July 29, 2003) in Outlook 2002 (Office XP) running on Windows 2000 Professional SP2. When I do a search of my mailbox using the "Find" or "Advanced Find" feature in Outlook, I cannot drag and drop anything that is in the find display into another folder. A Microsoft Outlook message appears saying "Can`t move item" or "Can`t copy item". I am able to select the item(s) and then use the menu command "Edit > Move to folder..." or "Edit > Copy to folder...". If I clear the find so that all the messages display, I am then able to drag and drop items between folders. If SpamBayes is not installed, I am able to drag and drop items that display in the "Find" or "Advanced Find" feature in Outlook. Any suggestions on how I can leave SpamBayes installed and still have the drag and drop function work while using the "Find" or "Advanced Find" feature in Outlook. -End-

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Error converting database to a pickle
by Alan Campbell Oct. 1, 2003

Oct. 1, 2003

Hi, Because of my problems with pop3proxy_service, I was advised to switch to a pickle. I have tried converting my existing database to a pickle as I don't really want to loose my training, but I get the following error :- C:\spambayes-1.0a6\scripts>sb_dbexpimp.py -e -D message_info_database.db -f mess age.export Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\spambayes-1.0a6\scripts\sb_dbexpimp.py", line 262, in ? runExport(dbFN, useDBM, flatFN) File "C:\spambayes-1.0a6\scripts\sb_dbexpimp.py", line 110, in runExport words.remove(bayes.statekey) ValueError: list.remove(x): x not in list I have also tried using the -d instead of -D, but that produced the following error :- C:\spambayes-1.0a6\scripts>sb_dbexpimp.py -e -d message_info_database.db -f mess age.export Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\spambayes-1.0a6\scripts\sb_dbexpimp.py", line 262, in ? runExport(dbFN, useDBM, flatFN) File "C:\spambayes-1.0a6\scripts\sb_dbexpimp.py", line 112, in runExport bayes = spambayes.storage.PickledClassifier(dbFN) File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 90, in __init_ _ self.load() File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 113, in load tempbayes = pickle.load(fp) EOFError Any suggestions ? TIA Alan --- mailto:alan@mullen.demon.co.uk http://www.mullen.demon.co.uk/

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Re: re[2]: [Spambayes] gold mine
by Skip Montanaro Oct. 1, 2003

Oct. 1, 2003

Scott> Please let me know when the new installer will be ready. Is there Scott> a cost for this software? If you system will work with Goldmine, Scott> it will open up a very large market for you. Your best bet is to subscribe to the low-volume spambayes-announce mailing list. You can subscribe here: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-announce SpamBayes is free software, so no matter how big the Goldmine market is, we won't make a penny. There is a group working on a commercial version of the Outlook plugin: http://www.inboxer.com/ They may be interested in that market. Skip

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RE: [Spambayes] Compiled proxy as exe
by Meyer, Tony Sept. 30, 2003

Sept. 30, 2003

> Because i tried to get it running under Windows Xp Home > Edition, and it just complains about something (forgot to copy that) As Mark said, you're likely to get the same error with a compiled version, but it'll be harder to track down. If you can let us know what the error message is, we can probably suggest how you can fix it... =Tony Meyer

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RE: [Spambayes] spamBayes is great, thank you all!
by Meyer, Tony Sept. 30, 2003

Sept. 30, 2003

> Publish an installer which includes all 4 programs: > Python, Python-Win32, SpamBayes and SpamBayes-Outlook-Setup ! > > Would that be a good idea? > Obviously you have to ask Python.org - but they'd gain a lot > by being installed on many more computers... In the not-too-distant future, there will be an installer for Windows that installs either the Outlook plug-in, or a binary version of sb_server (covering those using POP3), or both if you really need both. Neither Python nor the win32 extensions are needed in that case (or, more accurately, the parts that are needed are included). =Tony Meyer

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RE: [SPAM] [Spambayes] Potential New Bug
by Meyer, Tony Sept. 30, 2003

Sept. 30, 2003

> I'm running Windows XPSP1, Outlook 2003, and SpamBayes .081. > The incoming spam messages are marked as read, however, I > still get the Notificaion Area Icon for New Unread Messages. > Any ideas? Please read FAQ 3.9: <http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-can-i-get-rid-of-the-enve lope-tray-icon-for-spam> =Tony Meyer

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RE: [Spambayes] Toolbar
by Meyer, Tony Sept. 30, 2003

Sept. 30, 2003

> I have had to uninstall and reinstall Spambayes and after the > reinstall the Toolbar does not appear. I have tried > everything that was listed in the troubleshooting.html and it > has not been corrected. Any advice? What version of SpamBayes are you using? What do your log files have in them? =Tony Meyer

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