Mailman 3 November 2003 - SpamBayes

Autostart on Mac OS X
by Takeyasu Sasagawa Nov. 30, 2003

Nov. 30, 2003

Hi, All. I am using Mac OS X 10.3. How is what is necessary just to carry out spambayes for making it start automatically? Thanks. -- Takeyasu Sasagawa http://www.tsproduction.net/ ****************************

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RE: [Spambayes] Question
by Tony Meyer Nov. 30, 2003

Nov. 30, 2003

> However, frequently Outlook shows that it is downloading 3 > (as an example) email messages but only one shows up in my > inbox and NONE in the spam folders. In other words the sum > of the messages in the inbox plus those in the spam folders > is often less than the number actually downloaded. > > Where might these other emails go? Have you looked in your 'unsure' folder? Have you tried searching for the messages via Outlook's 'Advanced Find'? =Tony Meyer

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RE: [Spambayes] Clasification difficulties using pop3proxy / sb_server
by Tony Meyer Nov. 30, 2003

Nov. 30, 2003

> However, > I have been getting a lot of 'unsures' (30% or so). When I > use the web interface to review the messages and look at the > clues for each unsure, I see that the spam rating is often > 0.5 or even higher - sometimes well within the Spam zone (I > currently use 20% and 80% as my thresholds). So , why is the > classifier rating them as unsure? To paraphrase Tim, because they don't resemble the messages you have trained as ham more strongly than the messages you have trained as spam (or vice versa). Clues! Clues! Give us the clues! (SpamBayes has no knowledge of 'ham' or 'spam' until you, personally, give it some. We can't answer this question unless you give us the information about how each of the tokens in the message scored for you personally. In sb_server you can get these from the review page (far right)). > Maybe related to the above, I have noticed that the 'unsure' > subject line is marked as such in the cache. This means that > when I train the classifier that the unsure is really spam, > the unsure token is included in the subject line. Yes, that's correct. [Note that I incorrectly guessed otherwise when someone else asked pretty much this exact question last week. This time I looked at the code, and, you're right.] Note that, with the exception of very short messages, a single token shouldn't really tip the scale either way anyway (unless the message was borderline). > Surely the cache shouldn't store the updated subject line? Well, information from the cached messages that is added by SpamBayes is used later on via the web interface. It shouldn't make any difference except for the subject line (or if some fool <wink> has setup their spambayes to tokenize spambayes headers). I asked the person that asked this question last week to open a bug report <http://sf.net/projects/spambayes> about this and said I would get to it at some point (or someone else will), but I don't think that has happened yet. You're welcome to do that. (Otherwise I may remember to this some day, but there's a good chance that nothing will ever happen about it). Note that I think that the correct behaviour would be to strip the [Ham|Unsure|Spam] from the start of subject lines, iff that option is set to True. This may lose information if it was added by something else, but that's probably better than tokenizing invalid information. =Tony Meyer

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Can't start pop3proxy_service alpha 7
by Martin Stone Davis Nov. 30, 2003

Nov. 30, 2003

I'm using alpha 7 under Windows XP Pro SP1. Until recently, I was using alpha 6, and I managed to have sb_server.py working semi-okay for me. Now, I've upgraded to alpha 7, and I get the following error (see below). Note that a very similar error occurs whether I use sb_server, pop3proxy_service, or pop3proxy_tray. C:\Program Files\Python23\Scripts>pop3proxy_service.py install Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Program Files\Python23\Scripts\pop3proxy_service.py", line 82, in ? import sb_server File "C:\Program Files\Python23\Scripts\sb_server.py", line 100, in ? import spambayes.message File "C:\PROGRA~1\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\message.py", line 200, in ? msginfoDB = MessageInfoPickle(message_info_db_name) File "C:\PROGRA~1\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\message.py", line 134, in __init__ self.load() File "C:\PROGRA~1\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\message.py", line 146, in load self.db = pickle.load(fp) File "C:\PROGRA~1\Python23\lib\pickle.py", line 1390, in load return Unpickler(file).load() File "C:\PROGRA~1\Python23\lib\pickle.py", line 872, in load dispatch[key](self) KeyError: '\x00' Please help! -Martin

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Clasification difficulties using pop3proxy / sb_server
by Mark Howells Nov. 30, 2003

Nov. 30, 2003

First up, let me say that I am extremely impressed with SpamBayes. I've been using theOutlook plugin at work with spectacular results - No false positives at all and only occasional unsures.... Now I'm using it to protect my home network. However, I've not got as good results and have noticed the following. I use the pop3proxy (via sb_server). I currently have the classifier trained on 575 Spam and 480 Ham. Because my family use Outlook Express, I asked the proxy to add 'unsure' and 'spam' onto the Subject line. So far so good. However, I have been getting a lot of 'unsures' (30% or so). When I use the web interface to review the messages and look at the clues for each unsure, I see that the spam rating is often 0.5 or even higher - sometimes well within the Spam zone (I currently use 20% and 80% as my thresholds). So , why is the classifier rating them as unsure? Maybe related to the above, I have noticed that the 'unsure' subject line is marked as such in the cache. This means that when I train the classifier that the unsure is really spam, the unsure token is included in the subject line. In consequence 'Subject : unsure' has become very spammy (a query on subject:unsure gives "Probability that a message containing this word is spam: 0.800342155644"). There's a similar effect for the 'spam' label. Surely the cache shouldn't store the updated subject line? Cheers Mark First up, let me say that I am extremely impressed with SpamBayes. I've been using theOutlook plugin at work with spectacular results - No false positives at all and only occasional unsures.... Now I'm using it to protect my home network. However, I've not got as good results and have noticed the following. I use the pop3proxy (via sb_server). I currently have the classifier trained on 575 Spam and 480 Ham. Because my family use Outlook Express, I asked the proxy to add 'unsure' and 'spam' onto the Subject line. So far so good. However, I have been getting a lot of 'unsures' (30% or so). When I use the web interface to review the messages and look at the clues for each unsure, I see that the spam rating is often 0.5 or even higher - sometimes well within the Spam zone (I currently use 20% and 80% as my thresholds). So , why is the classifier rating them as unsure? Maybe related to the above, I have noticed that the 'unsure' subject line is marked as such in the cache. This means that when I train the classifier that the unsure is really spam, the unsure token is included in the subject line. In consequence 'Subject : unsure' has become very spammy (a query on subject:unsure gives "Probability that a message containing this word is spam: 0.800342155644"). There's a similar effect for the 'spam' label. Surely the cache shouldn't store the updated subject line? Cheers Mark

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how do I uninstall spambayes
by M Poole Nov. 30, 2003

Nov. 30, 2003

How do I uninstall spambays? Mitch Poole

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Previous question
by Robert N. Cordy Nov. 30, 2003

Nov. 30, 2003

I apologize, of course my question related to SpamBayes and not ZoneAlarm!! Bob C. =======

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Question
by Robert N. Cordy Nov. 30, 2003

Nov. 30, 2003

Overall I am impressed with the capabilities of ZoneAlarm. Many thanks! However, frequently Outlook shows that it is downloading 3 (as an example) email messages but only one shows up in my inbox and NONE in the spam folders. In other words the sum of the messages in the inbox plus those in the spam folders is often less than the number actually downloaded. Where might these other emails go? Bob C. ============

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Exception 0x8004011c (MAPI_E_UNCONFIGURED)
by Ran Chermesh Nov. 30, 2003

Nov. 30, 2003

Hi, I'm trying to run spambayes on my office pc (win2k pro, imap mail server, Pentium II), and fail with a Exception 0x8004011c (MAPI_E_UNCONFIGURED) error message. The computer is a node on a departmental network. I've already installed this same version of spambayes on my home pc, with no apparent problem. What went wrong? Ran Here's the log file: Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\chermesh.BGU-DEV.000\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\chermesh.BGU-DEV.000\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 746 spam and 123 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin, Binary version 0.81 (September 9, 2003) starting (with engine SpamBayes Beta2, version 0.2 (July 2003)) on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4) using Python 2.3.2 (#49, Oct 2 2003, 20:02:00) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] WARNING: Unexpected MAPI error opening folder Exception 0x8004011c (MAPI_E_UNCONFIGURED): OLE error 0x8004011c WARNING: Unexpected MAPI error opening folder Exception 0x8004011c (MAPI_E_UNCONFIGURED): OLE error 0x8004011c WARNING: Unexpected MAPI error opening folder Exception 0x8004011c (MAPI_E_UNCONFIGURED): OLE error 0x8004011c WARNING: Unexpected MAPI error opening folder Exception 0x8004011c (MAPI_E_UNCONFIGURED): OLE error 0x8004011c WARNING: Unexpected MAPI error opening folder Exception 0x8004011c (MAPI_E_UNCONFIGURED): OLE error 0x8004011c OnAddInsUpdate None OnStartupComplete None pythoncom error: Failed to call the universal dispatcher Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\universal.py", line 173, in dispatch retVal = ob._InvokeEx_(meth.dispid, 0, meth.invkind, args, None, None) File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\server\policy.py", line 322, in _InvokeEx_ return self._invokeex_(dispid, lcid, wFlags, args, kwargs, serviceProvider) File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\server\policy.py", line 601, in _invokeex_ return DesignatedWrapPolicy._invokeex_( self, dispid, lcid, wFlags, args, kwArgs, serviceProvider) File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\server\policy.py", line 541, in _invokeex_ return func(*args) File "out1.pyz/addin", line 1335, in OnStartupComplete File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py", line 451, in __getattr__ return self._ApplyTypes_(*args) File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py", line 445, in _ApplyTypes_ return self._get_good_object_(self._oleobj_.InvokeTypes(*((dispid, 0, wFlags, retType, argTypes) + args)), user, resultCLSID) File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py", line 463, in _get_good_object_ return _get_good_object_(obj, obUserName, resultCLSID) File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py", line 481, in _get_good_object_ return _get_good_single_object_(obj, obUserName, resultCLSID) File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py", line 468, in _get_good_single_object_ return Dispatch(obj, obUserName, resultCLSID, UnicodeToString=NeedUnicodeConversions) File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py", line 96, in Dispatch return __WrapDispatch(dispatch, userName, resultCLSID, typeinfo, UnicodeToString, clsctx) File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py", line 38, in __WrapDispatch klass = gencache.GetClassForCLSID(resultCLSID) File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\gencache.py", line 171, in GetClassForCLSID mod = GetModuleForCLSID(clsid) File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\gencache.py", line 232, in GetModuleForCLSID makepy.GenerateChildFromTypeLibSpec(sub_mod, info) File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\makepy.py", line 304, in GenerateChildFromTypeLibSpec gen.generate_child(child, dir_path_name) File "C:\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\win32com\client\genpy.py", line 958, in generate_child self.file = open(os.path.join(dir, an_item.python_name) + ".py", "w") exceptions.IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'C:\\Python23\\Lib\\site-packages\\win32com\\demos\\support\\gen_py\\00062FF F-0000-0000-C000-000000000046x0x9x1\\ExplorersEvents.py'

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Nov. 30, 2003

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