Mailman 3 March 2003 - SpamBayes

Re: [Spambayes] filtering in the face of disk quotas or full disks
by T. Alexander Popiel March 22, 2003

March 22, 2003

In message: <15995.35595.805586.553059(a)montanaro.dyndns.org> Skip Montanaro <skip(a)pobox.com> writes: > >Has anybody thought about how any of the Spambayes tools would perform in >the face of disk quotas or full disk partitions? Very poorly. I think that'd send it straight into DB corruption. In general, spambayes is likely to require a bit more disk space than any fixed-pattern classifier like SpamAssassin... my database is about 20 megs, for instance. I don't hink that SpamAssassin requires more than a few K of personal storage, unless you turn on its bayesian stuff... - Alex

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RE: [Spambayes] Beta status checklist (not new feature requests!)
by Meyer, Tony March 22, 2003

March 22, 2003

> Add the Outlook binary installer as part of the release? Absolutely! I've discussed this with TimS off-list, but what's the general consensus here? (History-wise, I believe that alpha1 didn't have the plugin, but alpha2 does, and alpha3 will). I *don't* think that the Outlook plugin should be part of a beta release. The installer that Mark's created does a much better job, I think, and only installs those bits that the plugin needs, not pop3proxy and all the rest. IMO, a (potential) user should download *either* the Outlook installer, *or* a beta release of everything else. Thoughts? (Mark?) =Tony Meyer

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filtering in the face of disk quotas or full disks
by Skip Montanaro March 21, 2003

March 21, 2003

Has anybody thought about how any of the Spambayes tools would perform in the face of disk quotas or full disk partitions? Here at Northwestern they are going to start supporting IMAP (against their better wishes, but the customer is always right). Because they have roughly 30,000 active email accounts and IMAP allows (requires?) mail to be stored on the server, they are going to institute disk quotas on the mail servers for the first time. Procmail+SpamAssassin seems to be breaking in some situations and SA is (incorrectly, I believe) getting egg on its face as a result. I'd like to make sure Spambayes has these various problems addressed. Skip

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Re: [Spambayes] [ spambayes-Feature Requests-695059 ] wildcard support for mboxtrain
by T. Alexander Popiel March 21, 2003

March 21, 2003

In message: <200303210933.12940.tdickenson(a)devmail.geminidataloggers.co.uk> Toby Dickenson <tdickenson(a)devmail.geminidataloggers.co.uk> writes : >On Friday 21 March 2003 1:49 am, SourceForge.net wrote: > >It sounds like you are aiming the same direction as me. > >> it would be very helpful if mboxtrain would accept >> wildcards for mail folder identification. [...] >I am currently using a script that extracts all my mail folder names from a >kmail configuration file, then builds up a long hammie command line and >executes it. (Im happy to contribute this if anyone is interested) > >This is working well for me. My approach to this problem is that I make two copies of every mail; one copy goes into an 'everything' folder, and the other copy gets delivered into 'inbox' or 'newspam' as appropriate. As I review spam (or find it as false negatives), I move it into a 'spam' folder. For training, ham = everything - spam - newspam. Naming three folders doesn't seem to be a big deal, whereas naming all the innumerable folders that my inbox gets sorted into would be. The code to do this is checked in under contrib as bulktrain.sh and bulkgraph.py, and described in BULK.txt. >Every day I perform a full train unsing hammie, not mboxtrains incremental >approach. This means I can use the mail reader to expire old messages, and >have them removed from the spambayes database. I just ignore everything more than 120 days old, personally... and that's just to keep the database around 20 meg. Tests show that it hurts accuracy by less than 1%. Of course, ignoring everything over a week old hurts less than 5%... - Alex

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RE: [Spambayes] Getting a mbox file from Outlook Express
by Moore, Paul March 21, 2003

March 21, 2003

From: Tim Stone - Four Stones Expressions >> Well, it appears as if I've spoken a bit too soon on this one. >> I did some digging [...] > More digging. Thanks for these! I'll pass the info on... Paul

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[Spambayes] [ spambayes-Bugs-707491 ] Pop3 proxy service code for Windows doesn't work...
by SourceForge.net March 21, 2003

March 21, 2003

Bugs item #707491, was opened at 2003-03-21 13:35 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498103&aid=707491&group_i… Category: pop3proxy Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Paul Moore (pmoore) >Assigned to: Mark Hammond (mhammond) Summary: Pop3 proxy service code for Windows doesn't work... Initial Comment: The pop3proxy_service.py program doesn't seem to work with Python 2.2.2. The problem is that a main program doesn't have a __file__ variable defined. (This works in Python 2.3, which I guess is why this got missed...) I've attached a "quick fix" patch, which uses a helper module "findme.py". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Paul Moore (pmoore) Date: 2003-03-21 13:36 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=113328 File attachment didn't work :-( ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498103&aid=707491&group_i…

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[Spambayes] [ spambayes-Bugs-707491 ] Pop3 proxy service code for Windows doesn't work...
by SourceForge.net March 21, 2003

March 21, 2003

Bugs item #707491, was opened at 2003-03-21 13:35 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498103&aid=707491&group_i… Category: pop3proxy Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Paul Moore (pmoore) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Pop3 proxy service code for Windows doesn't work... Initial Comment: The pop3proxy_service.py program doesn't seem to work with Python 2.2.2. The problem is that a main program doesn't have a __file__ variable defined. (This works in Python 2.3, which I guess is why this got missed...) I've attached a "quick fix" patch, which uses a helper module "findme.py". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498103&aid=707491&group_i…

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[Spambayes] [ spambayes-Feature Requests-695059 ] wildcard support for mboxtrain
by SourceForge.net March 21, 2003

March 21, 2003

Feature Requests item #695059, was opened at 2003-02-28 07:54 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498106&aid=695059&group_i… Category: None Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Submitted By: bill parducci (humantypo) >Assigned to: Tim Stone (timstone4) Summary: wildcard support for mboxtrain Initial Comment: i have about 40 folders that i use to keep track of numerous e-mail lists, projects, scraps of digital dimentia, etc. it would be very helpful if mboxtrain would accept wildcards for mail folder identification. yes, i could have 40 command line params, but that adds a YAM (Yet Another Maintenance) task to make sure that the folders match the command line parameters. what would really be useful is if mboxtrain would keep track of folders that it has read in that session already. that way one could use the following syntax: mboxtrain -d [db] -s [dir]/spam -g [dir]/* and not have the ham process read the spam folder (since it is likely that there will be only 1 spam folder and multiple ham folders). i suppose you could just hard code the ham flag parser to ignore folders named 'spam' but that would kinda be horky... anway, i think would help in the move towards more 'set & forget' operation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498106&aid=695059&group_i…

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RE: [Spambayes] Beta status checklist
by Meyer, Tony March 21, 2003

March 21, 2003

> Nope, they enter into every probability calculation, via > Classifier.probability(). More, they have to. I don't know how I missed that. I was even looking at that section of the code; I remember reading those lines. Go figure. > I expect a real bug got hacked over instead of solved at the > time these int() calls got added to classifier.add_msg(): [...] > That is, the database was hosed if these things were ever strings, or > someone hacked around a bad database integration in the wrong place. Really we need to solve the problem that's causing the incorrect counts, rather than try and restore 'corrupt' db's. What we need, of course, is someone who regularly seems this problem so that we can track it down. Anyone out there? =Tony Meyer

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[Spambayes] [ spambayes-Feature Requests-703283 ] mboxtrain only trains on cur in maildir
by SourceForge.net March 21, 2003

March 21, 2003

Feature Requests item #703283, was opened at 2003-03-13 16:57 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498106&aid=703283&group_i… Category: None Group: None >Status: Closed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Matthew Cowles (mdcowles) Assigned to: Tim Stone (timstone4) Summary: mboxtrain only trains on cur in maildir Initial Comment: When training on a maildir, mboxtrain trains only on the messages in the subirectory cur. It ignores messages in the subdirectory new. Since new is for messages that haven't been seen, I think it's worth looking there since at least some spam will have been filed unseen. This is the same as bug 699174 which Tim Stone closed saying, "This is a feature request. If this remains as a requirement, please resubmit as such." The patch attached to that bug report fixes the behavior which I still consider a bug. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Tim Stone (timstone4) Date: 2003-03-20 19:47 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=645698 Added -n option to train mail in "new". This leaves the current behavior of training only "cur" unaltered. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498106&aid=703283&group_i…

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