Mailman 3 July 2003 - SpamBayes

Outlook plugin - training
by Moore, Paul Dec. 3, 2003

Dec. 3, 2003

When the Outlook plugin filters mails, it classifies them as either spam or potential spam, and can put them in appropriate folders. In the spam/potential spam folders, there is a "Recover from Spam" button available, and in other folders there is a "Delete as spam" button. These buttons add the message to the training database as well as taking the appropriate action. One thing I don't see, however, is a means of confirming the classifier's decisions as correct. A "yes, that is spam" button for the spam folder, and a "yes, that's ham" button in non-spam folders. As I'm starting from a very small message base, I worry that correct classifications are still somewhat based on "luck", and training based on correct decisions would help to increase both my and the classifier's confidence level. I can do this by regular retraining, but that has 2 disadvantages: it's much clumsier than simply clicking on a "clever boy!" button, and it relies on me not deleting messages until I do a training run. Much of the ham I get is "read and forget", so I'd rather delete immediately. When I get a chance to dive into the code, I'll see how hard this would be to implement. Paul.

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RE: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin - training
by Piers Haken Dec. 3, 2003

Dec. 3, 2003

I don't believe you need this. I think that the classifier automatically trains on messages as they arrive (or at least on messages that it's sure about). You only need to retrain if it has made a mistake, or if it's unsure. Piers. > -----Original Message----- > From: Moore, Paul [mailto:Paul.Moore@atosorigin.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:09 AM > To: Spambayes (E-mail) > Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin - training > > > When the Outlook plugin filters mails, it classifies them as > either spam or potential spam, and can put them in > appropriate folders. > > In the spam/potential spam folders, there is a "Recover from > Spam" button available, and in other folders there is a > "Delete as spam" button. These buttons add the message to the > training database as well as taking the appropriate action. > > One thing I don't see, however, is a means of confirming the > classifier's decisions as correct. A "yes, that is spam" > button for the spam folder, and a "yes, that's ham" button in > non-spam folders. > > As I'm starting from a very small message base, I worry that > correct classifications are still somewhat based on "luck", > and training based on correct decisions would help to > increase both my and the classifier's confidence level. > > I can do this by regular retraining, but that has 2 > disadvantages: it's much clumsier than simply clicking on a > "clever boy!" button, and it relies on me not deleting > messages until I do a training run. Much of the ham I get is > "read and forget", so I'd rather delete immediately. > > When I get a chance to dive into the code, I'll see how hard > this would be to implement. > > Paul. > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes mailing list > Spambayes(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >

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Re: Spambayes Digest, Vol 59, Issue 9
by erik＠sky.cz Nov. 6, 2003

Nov. 6, 2003

Hi all, Mark replied to my recent message on installation problems in private, and I replied back in private... since there's been activity from Mark on the list but no reply to that e-mail, I'll take the liberty of continuing this one on the list. The basics again: - I first discovered the problem in the 002 binary, but it does repro in the 003. - both repro machines run Outlook 2K CZ - one runs W98SE CZ and the other W2K CZ - Reproduced in W2K under both CZ-CZ locale and EN-US regional settings - Addin joins the list in Outlook after installation, but cannot be successfully activated - each return to the COM add-ins dialog finds it unchecked. - The original report was for W2K CZ / binary 2; see the list a few days back for details. - Here is the behavior for W98SE/CZ regional settings/binary 3: Error connecting to Outlook! Traceback (most recent call last): File "out1.pyz/addin", line 800, in OnConnection File "out1.pyz/manager", line 682, in GetManager File "out1.pyz/manager", line 226, in __init__ File "out1.pyz/manager", line 487, in LoadConfig File "out1.pyz/ntpath", line 101, in join UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xed in position 9: ordinal not in range(128) ERROR: 'There was an error initializing the SpamBayes addin\r\n\r\nPlease re- start Outlook and try again.' Traceback (most recent call last): File "out1.pyz/addin", line 800, in OnConnection File "out1.pyz/manager", line 682, in GetManager File "out1.pyz/manager", line 226, in __init__ File "out1.pyz/manager", line 487, in LoadConfig File "out1.pyz/ntpath", line 101, in join UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xed in position 9: ordinal not in range(128) SpamBayes - Disconnecting from Outlook Addin terminating: 0 COM client and 1 COM servers exist. - the error with 003 on W2K was, as far as I can recall, mostly the same, except for the "can't decode byte XXXX" - a different byte was cited, AFAICR. Erik Piper

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Installation Error
by Greg Lozier Sept. 2, 2003

Sept. 2, 2003

I installed spambayes today and while installing I received an error message that there is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive \device\harddisk1\dr3. I cancel the error message it finish loading. It is operational in outlook 2000 now, but when I start outlook I get the above error message. After hitting cancel a few times it will go away and outlook will load. What is causing this error? Thanks, Greg

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enquiry
by damian Aug. 22, 2003

Aug. 22, 2003

Hi, I am trying to configure spambayes to work with my procmail. I found a .procmailrc file in spambayes directory. Do I use this .procmailrc file? or I use my existing .procmailrc file and add some details to it? Thanks and rgds, Damian -- damian <damian(a)science.nus.edu.sg>

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unknown encoding us-ascii on Message.asTokens(), but
by Brad Clements Aug. 1, 2003

Aug. 1, 2003

I use the asTokens method of a message to get a token list, and that sometimes fails with Traceback (most recent call last): File "mkwsbayes\interface.pyc", line 87, in sb_train File "mkwsbayes\UserContext.pyc", line 98, in train File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 187, in asTokens File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 199, in as_string File "email\Message.pyc", line 113, in as_string File "email\Generator.pyc", line 103, in flatten File "email\Generator.pyc", line 138, in _write File "email\Generator.pyc", line 172, in _write_headers File "email\Generator.pyc", line 44, in _is8bitstring LookupError: unknown encoding: us-ascii (note, I'm running this from a py2exe .zip so maybe I haven't included encodings or something.. ?) However if I don't use the asTokens() method on a message (instead I use hammie.score function, it works fine on the same message that asTokens fails on) why is there difference between asTokens() and not using tokens? Since I may need to unlearn this message, I'd prefer to tokenize only once. That's why I use asTokens. Any ideas on how to fix this? -- Brad Clements, bkc(a)murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax http://www.wecanstopspam.org/ AOL-IM: BKClements

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spurious errors on Linux
by Hirendra Hindocha Aug. 1, 2003

Aug. 1, 2003

Hi, I'm running spambayes-1.0a4 on Redhat 9 + procmail + maildir format spamassassin. My procmail entry reads like this - :0fw | /usr/bin/hammie.py -f -d -p $HOME/.hammiedb :0: * ^X-Spambayes-Classification: spam .list.spam_sb/ The above filters email and works most of the time, but sometimes I get the following errors /usr/bin/hammie.py: line 3: : command not found /usr/bin/hammie.py: line 6: syntax error near unexpected token ` ' /usr/bin/hammie.py: line 6: ` spambayes.hammiebulk.main() ' procmail: Program failure (2) of "/usr/bin/hammie.py" procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded Typically I'd assume that the above msg is generated as a result of '^M' in the hammie.py or the absence of a python interpreter. But that isn't the case here ! The thing that stumps me is that it works some time. Total Number Folder ----- ------ ------ 410159 11 /home/hiren/Maildir/.mbox/ 20839 6 .list.spambayes/ 0 1 ## procmail: Error while writing to "/usr/bin/hammie" 0 2 ## procmail: Program failure (2) of "/usr/bin/hammie" 0 3 ## procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded : command not found /usr/bin/hammie.py: line 3: ' 0 3 ## /usr/bin/hammie.py: line 6: ` spambayes.hammie) ' 0 3 ## /usr/bin/hammie.py: line 6: syntax error near une` ----- ------ 1565757 107 For example, in the above procmail summary, the filter worked for most of the time but failed a few times with the above error. Any suggestions ? -- Hiren ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [Spambayes] Thank you
by Stuart, Bill Aug. 1, 2003

Aug. 1, 2003

Now THAT's FUNNY! ;-O - Bill stuart(a)tessco.com > -----Original Message----- > From: yourvacation(a)starmail.com [mailto:yourvacation@starmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:39 PM > To: SpamBayes(a)python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Thank you > > > Thank you for taking your time to read this email... > it could be benefical for you! [spam deleted...]

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Feedback on v6 of the Outlook Add-in
by Simon Marchant July 31, 2003

July 31, 2003

Downloaded the Outlook Add-in for a system running Outlook 2000 with Windows XP Home Edition. The XP is configured with four user accounts: one for each member of the family who use the single PC. When the Add-in is used on more than one account it effectively stops any of the users from logging in - the systems freezes shortly after you type in the password for the selected account. Thanks, Simonm

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Work-around for "dll won't stay checked"
by Hood, John July 31, 2003

July 31, 2003

Too much dinking around trying to post this to sourceforge., The problem is that SB locks up. Force restart of Outlook disabled SB, and if you go to Tools, Options, Other, Advanced, Comm Addins SB will not stay checked. For Outlook XP, on Windows 2000 SP3 1: Close Outlook, find the user's OUTCMD.DAT file and rename/delete. 2: Go to the user profile\Applications data\spambayes folder and delete the db files and the {username}.ini file 4: open Outlook and go to tools, Options, Other, Advanced, Comm Addins, and remove the Spambayes add-in and then add it back in. 5: Setup and retrain as normal, end of problem. John

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