Mailman 3 July 2003 - SpamBayes

Database question.
by Jonathan Steeves July 2, 2003

July 2, 2003

Just a quick note to say that this add-in is awesome. Why MS doesn't include this sort of thing in its software is a mystery to me. One question: does SpamBayes automatically train itself on new filtered spam. What I mean by this is if I set up the program and train it and then several hundred more spam come in (and are filtered to the Spam folder) are these messages added to the spam database automatically? It doesn't seem to (based on the display in the Spam Manager screen where it tells you how many spam and ham messages are in your database). Would I have to train it periodically? Personally, I think this would be a great addition to the usability of the program. I'm currently testing SpamBayes on Outlook 2002 Sp1 on a Win2k Sp3 machine and it's working great. I noticed on your compatability matrix that it was marked as "unknown " for that configuration. I installed the plugin using the Outlook plugin installer. Jon Steeves jsteeves(a)allision.com

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pop3proxy won't start after a reboot
by Ed Rubinsky July 2, 2003

July 2, 2003

pop3proxy terminates with the following error after restarting the system (Windows 2000 Professional, Eudora 5.1.) D:\PROGRA~1\Python22\spambayes>pop3proxy.py SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Beta1, version 0.1 (May 2003), using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Web Interface Alpha2, version 0.02 and engine SpamBayes Beta1, version 0.1 (May 2003). Loading database... Traceback (most recent call last): File "D:\PROGRA~1\Python22\spambayes\pop3proxy.py", line 730, in ? run() File "D:\PROGRA~1\Python22\spambayes\pop3proxy.py", line 705, in run state.createWorkers() File "D:\PROGRA~1\Python22\spambayes\pop3proxy.py", line 547, in createWorkers self.bayes = storage.DBDictClassifier(filename) File "D:\PROGRA~1\Python22\spambayes\spambayes\storage.py", line 147, in __ini t__ self.load() File "D:\PROGRA~1\Python22\spambayes\spambayes\storage.py", line 159, in load t = self.db[self.statekey] File "D:\PROGRA~1\PYTHON22\lib\shelve.py", line 71, in __getitem__ return Unpickler(f).load() EOFError Exception exceptions.AttributeError: "'NoneType' object has no attribute 'error' " in <bound method _Database.__del__ of <dumbdbm._Database instance at 0x008EB1A 8>> ignored Renaming hammie.db.dir clears the problem. Any ideas? Is retraining necessary after deleting hammie.db.dir? Best, Ed

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RE: [Spambayes] pop3proxy won't start after a reboot
by Ed Rubinsky July 2, 2003

July 2, 2003

Tony Meyer: >> The first thing I would suggest is using something that isn't dumbdbm. >> Either pickles, or install something like bsddb3 and use that. Dumbdbm >> is a fallback db system and might be the problem here - AFAIK, no-one >> has really tested spambayes with dumbdbm. >> hammie.db.dir is the name of your database file, yes? If you delete it, >> then you lose all your training data, so yes retraining is necessary. >> You should also delete the spambayes.messageinfo.db file as well. Accepted. Out of curiosity, is hammie.db a hashed copy of the data base and hammie.db.dir a flat copy? (No need to answer, I'll take a look at the source code to try and figure it out.) One reason I'm curious is that it seems to at least as accurate as before without retraining, and I only deleted hammie.db.dir - not hammie.db. In any event, this is a great piece of software - one that does it job both well and elegantly. Kudos to all involved. Think I need to come up to speed on some of the other data bases. Best, Ed

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thanks
by tone July 2, 2003

July 2, 2003

Thanks Your AntiSpam Addin works rather well congratulations tony f

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(no subject)
by Will Anjos July 2, 2003

July 2, 2003

I have tried running this on Outlook2000/W2K and I am getting strange behaviour. I successfully trained, but the next day nothing is filtered. The 'Delete as Spam' button works, but has no effect. The 'Recover from Spam' button works and recovers. The 'Anti-Spam' button is dead and does not respond at all - so I cannot access the settings pages. <<spambayes1.log>> Will Anjos Stock-'n-Trade Ltd ________________________________________________ Head Office Unit 8 - Westmoreland House Cumberland Park 80 Scrubs Lane London NW10 6RE Tel: (020) 8357 3737 Fax: (020) 8357 3736 Sussex Office Tel: (01273) 416 096 Mobile (07866) 457 831

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Outlook 2003
by David Hansford July 2, 2003

July 2, 2003

Hi there, I have just successfully installed spambayes software with outlook 2003 but only after I installed the technical refresh release. Regards David

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RE: [Spambayes] pop3proxy won't start after a reboot
by Meyer, Tony July 2, 2003

July 2, 2003

> pop3proxy terminates with the following error after > restarting the system > (Windows 2000 Professional, Eudora 5.1.) [...] > File "D:\PROGRA~1\PYTHON22\lib\shelve.py", line 71, in __getitem__ > return Unpickler(f).load() > EOFError > Exception exceptions.AttributeError: "'NoneType' object has > no attribute 'error' > " in <bound method _Database.__del__ of <dumbdbm._Database > instance at 0x008EB1A8 ignored The first thing I would suggest is using something that isn't dumbdbm. Either pickles, or install something like bsddb3 and use that. Dumbdbm is a fallback db system and might be the problem here - AFAIK, no-one has really tested spambayes with dumbdbm. > Renaming hammie.db.dir clears the problem. Any ideas? Is retraining > necessary after deleting hammie.db.dir? hammie.db.dir is the name of your database file, yes? If you delete it, then you lose all your training data, so yes retraining is necessary. You should also delete the spambayes.messageinfo.db file as well. =Tony Meyer

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Spambayes on windows
by Nicola van Leeuwen July 2, 2003

July 2, 2003

Hi, Last week I installed Spambayes on my windows machine. I am using Outlook 2002 (service pack 2) Windows 2000 (service pack 3) I downloaded and installed the Outlook plug-in installer (so simply ran the exe file) version 2. I have had no problems at all. I hope this is all the info you need. Thanks, Nicola van Leeuwen PhD candidate Physics Department University of Otago Ph: +64-3-479-7789 Fax: +64-3-479-0964

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Configuring Outlook
by Christian Jacobsen July 2, 2003

July 2, 2003

Greetings! I just installed SpamBayes and am very impressed with it. However there is one clarification I would like to see in the documentation, and one functional improvement I would like to see. ==== Documentation ==== Apparently (please correct me if I am wrong) there is no way in Outlook to globally modify every table-view. That means that every folder you have in your Outlook will need to have the "Spam" column added manually. For someone like me, that is going to take quite a long time. I have been using email for quite a few years! :-) It would be good if the manual noted that the "Spam" column will need to be added to *every* folder that you want it to appear in, and that there is no global "view change" possible like there is with Desktop folders. ==== Functionality ==== When I ran the Filter for the first time, it told me it found 37 definite spam, and 5 unsure. But it did not tell me where I could find those files. It would be nice if it output a textfile report, or some such thing, that told me where I could find these 5 unsure ones. So, that is all the ideas I have. If there is anything I can do to help you with this product, I would be glad to be of service. (Programming is too far in the past for me to be of any help on that, but writing, testing, etc, I am still good at! :-) Thanks for the great product! - Christian Jacobsen Budapest, Hungary

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RE: [Spambayes] what are Test Drivers for?
by Meyer, Tony July 2, 2003

July 2, 2003

> Hi I am an inexperienced spambayes user, and I want to know > if there is someone who can give me an idea what are test > drivers for?. Do you mean the testing tools that included with spambayes? (i.e. in the testtools directory). These are utilities to aid in testing ideas against a corpus (collection) of good & bad mail, to see how effective they are. For example, seeing whether tokenising only message headers would still result in correct classification. =Tony Meyer

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