Mailman 3 July 2003 - SpamBayes

bug report
by Seth Kaplan July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

Howdy! Currently evaluating SpamBayes. Love it. Noticed a bug when using it in MS Outlook. Perhaps you'd like to correct? Basically, if you get an Outlook meeting request that gets deemed as spam (and for whatever reason, most of my Outlook meeting requests are deemed as such), the bug in the software is that you cannot "recover from spam". While the message is in your spam folder, when you click the "recover from spam" button to train SpamBayes that this message is not spam and subsequently move the message back to your inbox or wherever, SpamBayes replies to your click, saying, "No Selection: No mail items are selected." Bug #2 is that you have the exact same problem as above with send/read mail receipts returned back to you from messages where you requested the receipts in the first place. What this means is that if I request read receipts, I have to trudge through my spam folder to locate them and when I do, there's no way for me to train the software that these receipts aren't spam because when I click the "recover from spam" button, the software tells me I didn't select any e-mail to recover from. Anyhoo, hopefully the fix is a simple one which is to treat these messages in Outlook like any other mail. I suspect the software nearly does, because it filters them in the first place. Now, if only I could get SpamBayes to allow me to recover them out of spam folder, it be perfect... Screen shots attached. Thanks. -- Seth

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Successful Installation Reports
by Finking, Robert July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

Successfully installed a2 binary on both Outlook 2000/Windows 2000 SP2 and Outlook 2002/Windows 2000 SP3, and also a3 built from source on Outlook 2002/Windows 2000 SP3. Thanks for all you work. Jesus loves you, God's got a plan for your life =) Raffles >We can use some people to help check out the highlighted >configurations in the table. If you can help, please send your >results to spambayes(a)python.org. Please be explicit about the service >pack or revision level of the various software bits you are using, >and how you installed the plugin (using the binary installer, from >the 1.0a2 distribution, or from CVS). Usual disclaimers about my views not representing those of my employer... -- Registered Office: Roke Manor Research Ltd, Siemens House, Oldbury, Bracknell, Berkshire. RG12 8FZ The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential to Roke Manor Research Ltd and must not be passed to any third party without permission. This communication is for information only and shall not create or change any contractual relationship.

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RE: [Spambayes] Integrating into Mercury
by Bullock, Stuart July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

Dear Anthony, Mercury is the Mercury Mail Transport System, which is part of the Mercury/Pegasus mail system developed and maintained by David Harris of New Zealand (see the link www.pmail.com ) and is freeware (you can optionally buy the manuals as a form of payment). It is the SMTP service that I use at home, and I have been spent weeks trying to get the content control to simply filter the queued spam mail into a folder SPAMDIR... I was intending to write my own Bayesian module, being both a programmer and mathematician myself, and use the primitive "plug-in" method in Mercury to be able to do this. But why re-invent the wheel if you fellows have done it (and probably have done it better)? Back note: there is a Bayesian filter for the Pegasus mail reader, but I was hoping to stop the spam at the SMTP/POP3 mercury level before it hit Outlook since I don't use Pegasus. The reasons it would be desirable to move the spam to a separate folder via Mercury, and then view it in the safety of notepad is because most spam has HTML. HTML in Outlook is processed connecting to sites via the internet and therefore the SPAM site can verify your IP address (or deliver cookies, if that feature is turned on, etc. etc.) - very undesirable. This means I have to shutdown Outlook's connection to the internet before looking at HTML mail (either turn off the router or temporarily disallow Outlook external access via the firewall). PS: The solution of permanently turning off Outlook's HTML processing is no longer viable as I also get legitimate email that has HTML. Hence my question. Apologies for the long answer here: I had assumed that you and your team would be familiar with Mercury as a mail transport system. Regards Stuart Bullock -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Baxter [mailto:anthony@interlink.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 10:01 AM To: Bullock, Stuart Cc: 'spambayes(a)python.org'; 'SPB' Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Integrating into Mercury >>> "Bullock, Stuart" wrote > Mercury SMTP/POP3 engine has a content-control that is less than > optimal. Have you thought about integrating into Mercury (or, even > better, have you been able to do it)? If you have been able to do it > - then could you please give me a quick "how-to"? What's Mercury? Anthony -- Anthony Baxter <anthony(a)interlink.com.au> It's never too late to have a happy childhood. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.

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How good?
by Matthew Sach July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

VERY good! You guys just revolutionised the amount of time I spent faffing with Outlook's junk mail facilities, and marking specific addresses as junk senders (cos we all know that doesn't work very well). I installed it Thursday last week, and it hasn't marked a single non-spam as definite spam so far, and only 2 as could-be-spam. Only 5 spam emails have hit my inbox, too, from the roughly 80 a day that come through (as I handle all "non-specific recipient" mail (mail@, info@ etc. in our company). Basically - BRILLIANT! Matt Sach John Henry Productions Ltd, 8 Lonsdale Road London NW6 6RD 020 7372 7708 Just launched... http://www.johnhenry.net/ Using slick design and technical expertise to provide practical responses to business needs, from online learning tools to viral marketing campaigns.

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installation problem
by Geza Groma July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

Trying to install SpamBayes-Outlook-Setup-003.exe for Outlook 2002 on Windows NT4.0 sp6a (administrator rights) causes error 0x80040201 from DllRegisterServer for spambayes_addin.dll. Regards, Geza Groma

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Integrating into Mercury
by Bullock, Stuart July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

Dear All, Mercury SMTP/POP3 engine has a content-control that is less than optimal. Have you thought about integrating into Mercury (or, even better, have you been able to do it)? If you have been able to do it - then could you please give me a quick "how-to"? Many thanks, Stuart PS: CC address is my home email address _________________________________________________________ Stuart Bullock Tel: +44 (0) 20 7601 0011 Ex:5432 Reg Systems e-mail: sbullock(a)lehman.com Lehman Brothers Team mail: London Reg Admin _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.

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RE: [Spambayes] Outlook IMO vs. CW
by Meyer, Tony July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

> Outlook 2000 comes in Internet Mode Only (IMO) and Corporate > Workgroup (CW) versions. Does Spambayes work on both? Yes. =Tony Meyer

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Outlook IMO vs. CW
by Gabor Grothendieck July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

Outlook 2000 comes in Internet Mode Only (IMO) and Corporate Workgroup (CW) versions. Does Spambayes work on both? _____________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE e-mail account at http://www.volcanomail.com _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you(a)yourchoice.com, No Ads, 6MB, IMAP, POP, SMTP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag

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ANNOUNCE: New SpamBayes binary for Outlook available
by Mark Hammond July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

[This mail isn't going to spambayes-announce as yet - I would prefer to hear some success reports first] A new Outlook addin for SpamBayes is available from http://starship.python.net/crew/mhammond/spambayes - it has a number of new features, but most notably, should work much better on Windows 9x and Windows XP. If you had problems installing version 2 of the binary, I would appreciate you testing this version. Many other bugs have been fixed, and a couple of new options added - see the new "configuration guide" for details on some of the options you can configure via a text editor. Once I get a few more reported, I will put together a real announce message and post it both here and wider. Thanks, Mark.

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RE: [Spambayes] corrupt database bug
by Meyer, Tony July 1, 2003

July 1, 2003

> My computer shut off over the weekend due to a power outage, > and this morning I found 3800 untested new emails in my > inbox. Filtering was off and it claimed to have no database > so I had to retrain it. This part of the log gives it away: Bayes database initialized with 0 spam and 0 good messages *** - message database has 614 messages - bayes has 0 - something is screwey What has happened is that the message database, which keeps track of which messages spambayes has seen, has been saved (or at least partially saved), but the 'bayes' database that keeps track of the message tokens has not. The only solution is to retrain from scratch as you did. The next release saves the databases at better times, so should avoid this problem, as long as the power outage was not at a time when the save was taking place. Note that you can make a backup of the databases and drop them back in if things like this happen and you would rather not keep a collection of mail to retrain with. Messages with details about how to do this were recently posted on the list. =Tony Meyer

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