Mailman 3 August 2003 - SpamBayes

Outlook plugin - training
by Moore, Paul Dec. 3, 2003

Dec. 3, 2003

When the Outlook plugin filters mails, it classifies them as either spam or potential spam, and can put them in appropriate folders. In the spam/potential spam folders, there is a "Recover from Spam" button available, and in other folders there is a "Delete as spam" button. These buttons add the message to the training database as well as taking the appropriate action. One thing I don't see, however, is a means of confirming the classifier's decisions as correct. A "yes, that is spam" button for the spam folder, and a "yes, that's ham" button in non-spam folders. As I'm starting from a very small message base, I worry that correct classifications are still somewhat based on "luck", and training based on correct decisions would help to increase both my and the classifier's confidence level. I can do this by regular retraining, but that has 2 disadvantages: it's much clumsier than simply clicking on a "clever boy!" button, and it relies on me not deleting messages until I do a training run. Much of the ham I get is "read and forget", so I'd rather delete immediately. When I get a chance to dive into the code, I'll see how hard this would be to implement. Paul.

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RE: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin - training
by Piers Haken Dec. 3, 2003

Dec. 3, 2003

I don't believe you need this. I think that the classifier automatically trains on messages as they arrive (or at least on messages that it's sure about). You only need to retrain if it has made a mistake, or if it's unsure. Piers. > -----Original Message----- > From: Moore, Paul [mailto:Paul.Moore@atosorigin.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:09 AM > To: Spambayes (E-mail) > Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin - training > > > When the Outlook plugin filters mails, it classifies them as > either spam or potential spam, and can put them in > appropriate folders. > > In the spam/potential spam folders, there is a "Recover from > Spam" button available, and in other folders there is a > "Delete as spam" button. These buttons add the message to the > training database as well as taking the appropriate action. > > One thing I don't see, however, is a means of confirming the > classifier's decisions as correct. A "yes, that is spam" > button for the spam folder, and a "yes, that's ham" button in > non-spam folders. > > As I'm starting from a very small message base, I worry that > correct classifications are still somewhat based on "luck", > and training based on correct decisions would help to > increase both my and the classifier's confidence level. > > I can do this by regular retraining, but that has 2 > disadvantages: it's much clumsier than simply clicking on a > "clever boy!" button, and it relies on me not deleting > messages until I do a training run. Much of the ham I get is > "read and forget", so I'd rather delete immediately. > > When I get a chance to dive into the code, I'll see how hard > this would be to implement. > > Paul. > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes mailing list > Spambayes(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >

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Re: Spambayes Digest, Vol 59, Issue 9
by erik＠sky.cz Nov. 6, 2003

Nov. 6, 2003

Hi all, Mark replied to my recent message on installation problems in private, and I replied back in private... since there's been activity from Mark on the list but no reply to that e-mail, I'll take the liberty of continuing this one on the list. The basics again: - I first discovered the problem in the 002 binary, but it does repro in the 003. - both repro machines run Outlook 2K CZ - one runs W98SE CZ and the other W2K CZ - Reproduced in W2K under both CZ-CZ locale and EN-US regional settings - Addin joins the list in Outlook after installation, but cannot be successfully activated - each return to the COM add-ins dialog finds it unchecked. - The original report was for W2K CZ / binary 2; see the list a few days back for details. - Here is the behavior for W98SE/CZ regional settings/binary 3: Error connecting to Outlook! Traceback (most recent call last): File "out1.pyz/addin", line 800, in OnConnection File "out1.pyz/manager", line 682, in GetManager File "out1.pyz/manager", line 226, in __init__ File "out1.pyz/manager", line 487, in LoadConfig File "out1.pyz/ntpath", line 101, in join UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xed in position 9: ordinal not in range(128) ERROR: 'There was an error initializing the SpamBayes addin\r\n\r\nPlease re- start Outlook and try again.' Traceback (most recent call last): File "out1.pyz/addin", line 800, in OnConnection File "out1.pyz/manager", line 682, in GetManager File "out1.pyz/manager", line 226, in __init__ File "out1.pyz/manager", line 487, in LoadConfig File "out1.pyz/ntpath", line 101, in join UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xed in position 9: ordinal not in range(128) SpamBayes - Disconnecting from Outlook Addin terminating: 0 COM client and 1 COM servers exist. - the error with 003 on W2K was, as far as I can recall, mostly the same, except for the "can't decode byte XXXX" - a different byte was cited, AFAICR. Erik Piper

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Installation Error
by Greg Lozier Sept. 2, 2003

Sept. 2, 2003

I installed spambayes today and while installing I received an error message that there is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive \device\harddisk1\dr3. I cancel the error message it finish loading. It is operational in outlook 2000 now, but when I start outlook I get the above error message. After hitting cancel a few times it will go away and outlook will load. What is causing this error? Thanks, Greg

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Install error with SpamBayes
by jason.ahrens＠rogers.com Sept. 2, 2003

Sept. 2, 2003

Hello. I am new to SpamBayes, and trying to install it. As the subject suggests, I am having problems. I have been unable to find any reference to similar problems in the archives or through net searches, so I'm asking for help. My platform is Linux 2.4.20 with Python 2.3. I've downloaded spambayes (1.0a4, as well as the CVS on two different days) and every time I get the same problem during the setup.py install phase. Below is a snippet of what seems to be the relevant portion. In essence, Python tells me that hammie.py has a syntax error... running install_lib copying build/lib/spambayes/message.py -> /opt/python-2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayescopying build/lib/spambayes/Options.py -> /opt/python-2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayescopying build/lib/spambayes/Dibbler.py -> /opt/python-2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayescopying build/lib/spambayes/resources/ui_html.py -> /opt/python-2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/resources copying build/lib/spambayes/UserInterface.py -> /opt/python-2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayesbyte-compiling /opt/python-2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/Options.py to Options.pycbyte-compiling /opt/python-2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/Dibbler.py to Dibbler.pycbyte-compiling /opt/python-2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/hammie.py to hammie.pyc File "/opt/python-2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/hammie.py", line 260 if __name__ == "__main__": ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax byte-compiling /opt/python-2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/resources/ui_html.py to ui_html.pycbyte-compiling /opt/python-2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/UserInterface.py to UserInterface.pycrunning install_scripts If anyone can offer any assistance on what may be wrong, it will be much appreciated. I am interested in running spampays using procmail. Any additional information required/requested will be provided in a timely fashion.. Thanks! Jason 1

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RE: [Spambayes] X-Spambayes-Classification not appearing
by Meyer, Tony Sept. 1, 2003

Sept. 1, 2003

> My .spambayesrc contains: > [Headers] > include_evidence: True > include_score: True > include_thermostat: True > > but I don't see anything in my headers. Using procmail; the > X-SpamBayes-Classification is there, no other SB header. You're using hammiefilter, yes? At the moment only pop3proxy and imapfilter can add those headers (or more accurately, any of the apps that use the sbheader_message class in the message.py module). OTOH, doesn't hammiefilter include the score in the classification header? And there's a hammie option ([Hammie]debug_header) that adds the evidence header (under the 'debug' name). I don't think there's any way to get a thermostat header, though. At some point hammiefilter probably will use the same class as the other apps (it's one of the reasons it was created); it just hasn't happened yet. =Tony Meyer

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Using SpamBayes with SSL mail server
by Ryan Booker Aug. 31, 2003

Aug. 31, 2003

I'm trying to set up spambayes pop3proxy with an SSL pop server. the server is set to mail.blah.com:995 and the port to 995. But it always times out. Any ideas? -- Cheers, Ryan

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RE: [Spambayes] Install error with SpamBayes
by Meyer, Tony Aug. 31, 2003

Aug. 31, 2003

> > Python tells me that hammie.py has a syntax error > > This was fixed in CVS on Tuesday 26 Aug - line 257 of > Hammie.py is missing a trailing close-parenthesis: > You could update from CVS, or fix your local copy of 1.0a4. > Soon you'll be able to download 1.0a5, which is due out any day now. However, this problem was introduced *after* 1.0a4 (I introduced it ;), so it shouldn't be happening in the 1.0a4 release. Do you get exactly the same trace with 1.0a4? Anyway, as Richie said, 1.0a5 would be the best bet. =Tony Meyer

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RE: [Spambayes] Re: SMTP Errors using Eudora
by Ed Rubinsky Aug. 31, 2003

Aug. 31, 2003

At 08:27 PM 8/30/2003 +1200, Meyer, Tony wrote: > >> As soon as I can get 1.12 from CVS I'll rerun the test. > > > That would be great. > > > Note that this issue is now being tracked (someone else reported it) > > here: > > <https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498103&aid=797316&gro >up_id=61702> Finally got 1.12 - same result (500 error from server.) > > The person that submitted the bug says that removing the '\r\n' that is > > added to "cooked" (right above where I got you to add the debugging > > statements) works for him. If I do this, though, the proxy doesn't > > proxy anything - it hangs on the first command. This is what I would > > expect, too, because the RFC says that each command must be terminated > > with CRLF (else how would it know it was done?). Would you be able to > > try that fix and let me know if it works for you? I get the same (expected) results - smtpproxy hangs on the EHLO cammand. I feel pretty strongly that the 500 response is coming from Norton. I see the response before Norton pops up with the scanning email window. I can't believe they would forward the email to the server before it's scanned, and it makes sense that they wouldn't start scanning a single email until the QUIT command was processed. I'm going to try digging into asynchat/asyncore and try a find a place to dump the port 25 traffic. Best, Ed

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Initial Start Up Problems
by Roger Booth Aug. 31, 2003

Aug. 31, 2003

I would be grateful if someone could give me some assistance to get me going with Spambayes. I've spent a day downloading and reading the documentation but haven't got anywhere. My operating system is Windows 2000 and I want to use pop3proxy with Outlook and Outlook express. I've downloaded spambayes 1.0a4 and Python 2.3. As I said in an earlier post, I can only get Python to compile the files by opening them with it. If I try to run pop3proxy.py -b it says it can't fine the file even though it is in the current directory. I've also tried the command: ">>>> from spambayes.Options import options" in python and again it can't find the file even though it is in the current directory. Is there some environmental variable that needs to be set for Python to work? I can't find a reference to it in the Python documentation. I want to configure Spambayes to talk to my ISP mail server. I read that I need to create a file "baysecustomize.ini" and enter the name of my ISP mailserver and the port it listens on. I've entered: [Server] server: mail.netspeed.com.au [Port] port: 110 Is this right? Next I want to set up Outlook to go to the pop3proxy instead of my ISP mail server. For another proxy server I've tried you enter "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" as the pop server in the account details and put the name of the ISP mail server and ":" before your username. Is the same correct for Spambayes? Thanks RB

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