Mailman 3 September 2003 - SpamBayes

POP3 Training Question
by Keith Russell Sept. 30, 2003

Sept. 30, 2003

Hello, fellow spam resisters. I have a question about training. I imported and trained on about 300 spam messages and an equal number of ham messages right after getting SpamBayes working a couple of days. I don't get a lot of spam and the initial training seems to have done a good job, so since then, I've received only one messages categorized as unsure and several hundred ham. When I go to the training page, I don't see a way to select which messages I want to train. It looks as though I need to train everything I've received, even if they were all correctly categorized to start with. That's easy enough to do, but will greatly skew the ratio of trained ham to trained spam. How can I get around this? Thanks. -- Keith Russell ...Another case of Cherry Coke down the programming hatch!

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Potential New Bug
by Gillette, Steve E Sept. 30, 2003

Sept. 30, 2003

I'm running Windows XPSP1, Outlook 2003, and SpamBayes .081. The incoming spam messages are marked as read, however, I still get the Notificaion Area Icon for New Unread Messages. Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

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Feature Request Outlook Plug-In
by WJGraff Sept. 30, 2003

Sept. 30, 2003

Please consider designing SpamBayes to run as an Outlook "rule" so that the processing of incoming emails can be handled more effectively.

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RE: Saving SB Filters
by Coe, Bob Sept. 30, 2003

Sept. 30, 2003

It appears from your message headers that you're an Outlook user. If you use the Spambayes Outlook plugin, the entire configuration, including the database, goes, by default, in your roaming profile. If your profile becomes corrupted, you should be able to restore it from your backup media. (What I do, though, is use an entirely separate account for risky work. If the profile gets guffed, I don't care, because it isn't my real one.) ;^) Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 · 617-349-4217 · fax 617-349-6165 > -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Chornenky [mailto:Justin@arushgames.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:07 PM > To: spambayes(a)python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Saving SB Filters > > > Rather than save a large sampling of spam (especially those containing > virii) to rebuild my SB in case of system failure... is it possible to > backup/export the rules/filters that SB runs off of? > > Could not find reference in FAQ or recent archives. > > This is a large issue for me, as I work in a testing environment where > we often wipe our machines after every production cycle. Or where buggy > software does it for us :) I have had to retrain SB a few times now, > and would like to start skipping this procedure. > > Any help is appreciated. > > -Justin

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RE: [Spambayes] Toolbar icon customization
by David Matos Sept. 30, 2003

Sept. 30, 2003

OK, please ignore my last post. I figured out what I was doing wrong; I misunderstood part of the directions :P It took me a few times to realize that I had to right click the button itself in the main Outlook window, not the "customize" window. Peter, Thanks again for the tip.

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RE: [Spambayes] Toolbar icon customization
by David Matos Sept. 30, 2003

Sept. 30, 2003

(Peter, thanks for the tip!) The good news is that I was able to follow the directions and edit the icons easily. Fantastic! The bad news is that when I try to rename the buttons according to the directions, the SpamBayes buttons do not appear as an option when I click "customize." In other words, the buttons function correctly, the toolbar can be turned off and on, the new icons appear correctly, but I can't "customize" the names for the SB buttons. Anyone have any ideas? (I'd *really* like to change the button names if it's at all possible.) -----Original Message----- Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:06:15 -0800 From: Peter Strisik <lists(a)strisik.com> Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Toolbar icon customization To: spambayes(a)python.org Message-ID: <0HLZ008O4GQFDP(a)mmp-1.gci.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In the Images folder, make copies of the "recover_ham" and "delete_as_spam" bitmaps as backups. Edit the originals as desired. In Outlook, right click on the toolbar and select "customize." Under the "Toolbars" tab, select the SpamBayes toolbar and delete it. Exit and restart outlook. Spambayes will recreate the toolbar with the new icons. In outlook, move to your "unsure" folder so both spam and ham buttons are showing in the toolbar. Right click on the toolbar and select "customize". Right click on the button you want to edit. Change the text in the "Name" field. Repeat for each button you want to change. Close the dialog. Voila.

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gold mine
by Scott Blackburn Sept. 30, 2003

Sept. 30, 2003

My mail program is called Goldmine, do you know it your spam blocker will work with it. From what I have read I should be able to use you pop3 filter program. Scott Blackburn, NREMT-P Emergency Response Training, Inc. 888-639-4600, 225-344-0970, Fax 225-344-0972 www.ertrescue.com

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500 server error on trying to configure IMAP trainig folders
by Mikhail Yakoubov Sept. 30, 2003

Sept. 30, 2003

Hello, spambayes 1.a06, Python 2.3.1 with win4all extensions installed, Win2K, started imapfilter -b successfully entered IMAP server name, login and password, but then on page http://qub.DOMAIN:8880/trainingfolders it gives an error -- 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Qub\Soft\Python\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\Dibbler.py", line 453, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) File "C:\Qub\Soft\Python\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\ImapUI.py", line 214, in onTrainingfolders self._login_to_imap() File "C:\Qub\Soft\Python\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\ImapUI.py", line 195, in _login_to_imap imap = IMAPSession(server, port) NameError: global name 'IMAPSession' is not defined Something worng with my install? Sorry if the question was asked -- looked through the two months worth of messages but didn't find any clue. Thank you in advance, Mike Yakoubov.

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RE: [Spambayes] RE: Need more training messages
by Coe, Bob Sept. 30, 2003

Sept. 30, 2003

> From: Skip Montanaro [mailto:skip@pobox.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 4:15 PM > To: Coe, Bob > Cc: spambayes(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] RE: Need more training messages > > > Skip> I doubt a few non-English hams and spam would hurt. Let's > Skip> limit it to Western European languages (no Hebrew or Japanese, > Skip> for example). > > Bob> I don't see the point of the limitation to Western European > Bob> spams. I'm firmly in the English-speaking world (no wisecracks > Bob> from the British Empire, please!), but a high percentage of my > Bob> spam is in Russian, Chinese, Japanese, etc. > > We know very little about how well SpamBayes works on *ham* which is > written in non-Western European character sets. The idea is that we > provide an initial training database which allows SpamBayes to do a > reasonable job scoring mail at the start. I wouldn't want to include > Asian spam and no Asian ham. If a Japanese user installs SB and uses > the starter database, they would likely be disappointed. > > Skip Well, either... - There are users of Spambayes in orthographically diverse languages, in which case those users should be able to contribute some ham samples, as well as their experience regarding the accuracy of Spambayes's classification in their languages, or - There aren't, in which case Spambayes's performance on ham written in such languages is (at least for the time being) irrelevant. But having said that, I have a broader confusion. I had thought that a few weeks ago the Spambayes development community had become convinced that it was just as effective to start with zero messages and let the program build its database from scratch. The theory (I thought) was that the tedium of dealing initially with the classification of all messages as ambiguous would be balanced by the fact that other users' idiosyncratic definitions of what is or isn't spam would be removed from the equation. Indeed, wasn't the ability to start from scratch specifically added to the most recent Spambayes versions to accommodate this thinking? Am I remembering wrong? Or have the developers changed their minds? If not, why the renewed emphasis on the starter database? Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 · 617-349-4217 · fax 617-349-6165

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(no subject)
by Marc de Graauw Sept. 30, 2003

Sept. 30, 2003

I can run SpamBayes with: > pop3proxy_service.py debug but when I try to run it with: > net start pop3proxy_service SpamBayes does not start and puts the follwoing error in Event Log: Python could not import the service's module File "C:\sb\spambayes-1.0a6\windows\pop3proxy_service.py", line 82, in ? import sb_server File "C:\sb\spambayes-1.0a6\scripts\sb_server.py", line 100, in ? import spambayes.message File "C:\sb\spambayes-1.0a6\spambayes\message.py", line 149, in ? File "C:\sb\spambayes-1.0a6\spambayes\message.py", line 114, in __init__ File "C:\sb\spambayes-1.0a6\spambayes\dbmstorage.py", line 53, in open File "C:\sb\spambayes-1.0a6\spambayes\dbmstorage.py", line 36, in open_best File "C:\sb\spambayes-1.0a6\spambayes\dbmstorage.py", line 12, in open_db3hash File "C:\PROGRA~1\PYTHON\lib\site-packages\bsddb3\__init__.py", line 162, in hashopen d.open(file, db.DB_HASH, flags, mode) Py 2.2.3 / win32all-152 / bsddb3-4.1.6.win32-py2.2.exe (Cannot run 2.3 because mod_python does not support it yet). Anybody seen something like this? Cheers Marc

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