Mailman 3 September 2003 - SpamBayes

Toolbar
by Kersting, Matthew Sept. 29, 2003

Sept. 29, 2003

I have had to uninstall and reinstall Spambayes and after the reinstall the Toolbar does not appear. I have tried everything that was listed in the troubleshooting.html and it has not been corrected. Any advice? CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by email reply or by telephone and immediately delete this message and any attachments. In the U.S. call us toll free at (800) 637-5843. Spanish, French, Quebecois French, Portuguese, Polish, German, Dutch, Turkish, Russian, Japanese and Chinese: http://www.admworld.com/confidentiality.htm.

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Lost all of my ham/spam training
by Alan Campbell Sept. 29, 2003

Sept. 29, 2003

Hi, I have been using Spambayes on a W2K server via the proxy server for for about 2 weeks now and had trained it on about 80 spam and 60 ham. Everything was going fine and it was classifying virtually all of my mails correctly, until today. I got home from work and checked my mail and everything came through as unsure. After further investigation, it appears all my training has been lost somehow. The web server home page shows that 0 ham and spam have been trained. Any ideas ? Alan --- mailto:alan@mullen.demon.co.uk http://www.mullen.demon.co.uk/

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Review of problem - before filing bug report
by Michael McKay Sept. 29, 2003

Sept. 29, 2003

I've had a "progressing problem", and thought it might be worthwhile to describe it informally before filing a formal bug report. Here is a chronology: Base system: Win2K, Outlook 2002, Outlook Plug-ins: McAfee 5.x, PGP 7.x, Chapura 1) Installed SpamBayes 0.7, worked fine. 2) Installed SpamBayes 0.81, worked fine. 3) Installed Hauri's ViRobot, and as part of this procedure uninstalled McAfee. 4) SpamBayes stopped filtering messages, and buttons stopped working. 4a) In addition I got an error message about a missing McAfee dll upon Outlook start-up. I eventually solved this by deleting "\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\extend.dat" (according to MS this is some type of a cache file). 4b) I tried reinstalling SpamBayes a few times without any effect. 5) I read the trouble-shooting guide, and tried all reasonable troubleshooting techniques. I had one log-file (4th one) that showed normal activity, but the three newer ones just had two lines (see below). 5a) I uninstalled ViRobot, just in case it was somehow messing things up. 5b) I deleted the SpamBayes toolbar, and than renamed "outcmd.dat". 5c) Uninstalled, rebooted, attempted to install 0.81; repeated again. 6) Which brings me to my current state: The install completes without errors. No Toolbar shows up, and the Outlook "Comm Add-Ins" does not show anything installed. The log file consists of 2 lines: Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. --- If any additional information is needed, please don't hesitate to contact me. Regards, Michael McKay seaan(a)concentric.net

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Bayesian drawbacks?
by Gerrit Holl Sept. 29, 2003

Sept. 29, 2003

Hi, I am considering to install a spamfilter on my machine. However, I don't know which one to choose. I have read about the Bayesian approach Spambayes is using. As I understand it, Spambayes needs to be trained in order to be useful. Isn't this a major drawback? Is it possible that a non-Bayesian approach would much better suit my needs, or did I misunderstand the Bayesian technique then? yours, Gerrit Holl. -- 104. If a merchant give an agent corn, wool, oil, or any other goods to transport, the agent shall give a receipt for the amount, and compensate the merchant therefor. Then he shall obtain a receipt form the merchant for the money that he gives the merchant. -- 1780 BC, Hammurabi, Code of Law -- Asperger Syndroom - een persoonlijke benadering: http://people.nl.linux.org/~gerrit/ Het zijn tijden om je zelf met politiek te bemoeien: http://www.sp.nl/

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help
by lockinventor Sept. 29, 2003

Sept. 29, 2003

this is going to be long. I purchase last week and Norton AntiSpam arrived on Saturday. there is a problem with it on OE6 on windows XP. See below from Samantec site. OE 6 crashes when a spam email gets to my inbox and I try to designate it as spam. No fix. At times send / receive stops mid way. I have to turn Anti Spam off to receive mail and then back on. Also there seems to be a delay going from AntiSpam to OE startup where sometimes I have to click from going off line to on line when I never did go off line. Question is are there any Spambayes problems with OE6 and XP? Jay Document ID:2003092416011236 Last Modified:09/26/2003 Outlook Express 6 crashes when you click the "This is Spam" button Situation: You are using Outlook Express 6. When you highlight a piece of email and click "This is Spam," Outlook Express crashes. Solution: Symantec is investigating this problem. The cause is unknown, and there is no solution at this time. This document will be updated when new information becomes available or a solution is found. The problem only seems to occur if you do the following: a.. Retrieve new messages (assume there is an email named "Spam" in this batch of messages). b.. Retrieve more new messages (one or more times). c.. Find that "Spam" email from the first batch of messages, then highlight it and click "This is Spam." Outlook Express crashes. The problem does not seem to occur if you designate incoming email as Spam each time you retrieve messages. If you find one that was from an earlier message download that you forgot to designate as Spam, ignore it.

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Toolbar icon customization
by David Matos Sept. 29, 2003

Sept. 29, 2003

I noticed that some people have modified their SpamBayes toolbar icons (and text). How did you do that? I'd like to modify my icons with different pictures (a green envelope, for example) and text (shorten to just "Spam" and "Ham").

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RE: Need more training messages
by Coe, Bob Sept. 29, 2003

Sept. 29, 2003

I don't see the point of the limitation to Western European spams. I'm firmly in the English-speaking world (no wisecracks from the British Empire, please!), but a high percentage of my spam is in Russian, Chinese, Japanese, etc. Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 · 617-349-4217 · fax 617-349-6165 > -----Original Message----- > From: Skip Montanaro [mailto:skip@pobox.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:54 AM > To: papaDoc > Cc: spambayes(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Need more training messages > > > > >> If you have a free minute or two can you rummage through your email > >> and find me two hams and two spams? > > Remi> Do you only what english mail or other languages also ? > > I doubt a few non-English hams and spam would hurt. Let's limit it to > Western European languages (no Hebrew or Japanese, for example). > > Skip

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corrupt database
by Chris Goldsmith Sept. 29, 2003

Sept. 29, 2003

please help i'm get the following error when trying to train on my latest batch of incoming spam thru the web interface. 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\download\spambayes-1.0a5\spambayes\Dibbler.py", line 453, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) File "C:\download\spambayes-1.0a5\spambayes\ProxyUI.py", line 309, in onReview targetCorpus.takeMessage(id, sourceCorpus) File "C:\download\spambayes-1.0a5\spambayes\Corpus.py", line 201, in takeMessage self.addMessage(msg) File "C:\download\spambayes-1.0a5\spambayes\FileCorpus.py", line 143, in addMessage Corpus.Corpus.addMessage(self, message) File "C:\download\spambayes-1.0a5\spambayes\Corpus.py", line 136, in addMessage obs.onAddMessage(message) File "C:\download\spambayes-1.0a5\spambayes\storage.py", line 552, in onAddMessage self.train(message) File "C:\download\spambayes-1.0a5\spambayes\storage.py", line 560, in train self.bayes.learn(message.tokenize(), self.is_spam) File "C:\download\spambayes-1.0a5\spambayes\classifier.py", line 276, in learn self._add_msg(wordstream, is_spam) File "C:\download\spambayes-1.0a5\spambayes\classifier.py", line 411, in _add_msg self._wordinfoset(word, record) File "C:\download\spambayes-1.0a5\spambayes\storage.py", line 257, in _wordinfoset self.db[word] = record.__getstate__() File "C:\Python23\lib\shelve.py", line 130, in __setitem__ self.dict[key] = f.getvalue() File "C:\Python23\lib\bsddb\__init__.py", line 90, in __setitem__ self.db[key] = value DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Also when i try to run the which_database.py to confirm which database I'm running I get Pickle is available.Dumbdbm is available.Dbhash is available.Bsddb[3] is available.Your storage hammie.db is a: NonePlease help any advice or suggestiosna re appreciated.

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RE: [Spambayes] Can't Save Configuration
by Meyer, Tony Sept. 29, 2003

Sept. 29, 2003

> >> pop3proxy_service.py did not get installed anywhere. > > This is fixed in cvs, so will be fixed for the next release. > Should I copy it to python23\scripts manually? Good, bad, or > irrelevant? Does it matter where I run it from? It doesn't matter where it is run from, so it's up to you. I suppose you might as well, since then when you install the next version it will be correctly replaced. > >> DBNoSuchFileError: (2, 'No such file or directory') [...] > Okay, here's bayescustomize.ini: > > [Storage] [...] > persistent_storage_file:e:\SpamBayes\Proxy\statistics_database.db [...] > At some point in the installation, I was asked for a data > storage location. When was this? You don't mean when expanding the zip/tar.gz, do you? Or in entering data on the configuration page of the web interface? I didn't think we asked for a location at any other time. > I told it to store the data on my data > drive at e:\SpamBayes, and it looks like that's where it's > looking for it. However, there was no e:\SpamBayes directory > created, and statistics_database.db is in the default > directory, as is the ini file. I think the problem here may be that the directories don't exist. SpamBayes will happily create the database if it's not there, but won't create the directories. If you create a e:\SpamBayes\Proxy directory, does it work then? By default directory, I guess you mean the windows Application Data one? (This does get created, if it ends up being used, but it's special-cased). > By the way, I didn't install SpamBayes to the default > location; could that be a problem? By install, you mean when you ran "setup.py install"? That shouldn't matter. > Can you explain the "sb_server/pop3proxy" notation to me? You mean, why do I refer to sb_server/pop3proxy? Up to (and including) 1.0a5, there was a script called pop3proxy.py, which ran the POP3 proxies, SMTP proxies, and served the web interface. In 1.0a6 (and beyond) that script is called sb_server.py (it's more accurate). At the moment, people are used to referring to pop3proxy, except for people who are knew to spambayes with 1.0a6, so I use both, to try and indicate that I mean either. (The pop3proxy_service and pop3proxy_tray scripts should really be renamed, too, at some point). > What's the difference between running "pop3proxy_tray.py", > "sb_server.py", or "net start pop3proxy"? If you run pop3proxy_tray.py it will do one of the others. If the service is installed, then it will start it (i.e. the same as "net start pop3proxy"). If the service isn't installed, then it will start up sb_server in a separate thread (i.e. the same as "sb_server.py"). As for the difference between running as a service and not, Mark would probably be the one to answer that. SpamBayes is a service, really, so I suppose it makes sense for it to operate as one, so that Windows can control it effectively. Win9x and Me don't support services, though. > Is this explained > somewhere in the documentation, and I just missed it? Probably not, but it probably should be. Both running pop3proxy as a service and the tray app are quite new additions to spambayes, and the documentation hasn't really caught up yet. =Tony Meyer

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RE: [Spambayes] Advice on when to stop training.
by Meyer, Tony Sept. 29, 2003

Sept. 29, 2003

> So if I don't have the lookup message in cache option > selected I can train on messages and still have the cache turned off? Yes. It will train on whatever it receives, rather than trying to find an id and then the message in an unaltered form. > I am using Gnus 5.9.0 does that qualify as forwarding mails > unchanged? I guess not because forwarding puts the original > message inside a MIME part. It probably also changes the sender to you, which isn't good. It'll still train, you just might get some invalid training done. It's really designed for mailers that can send off the original (raw) message. =Tony Meyer

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