Mailman 3 November 2004 - SpamBayes

RE: [Spambayes] Unable to Access SpamBayes Browser InterfaceUsingsb_imapfilter.py
by Tony Meyer Nov. 30, 2004

Nov. 30, 2004

> I guess I intended a double meaning. I've considered POPfile, but > IMAP is still very experimental, and much more difficult to > install than SpamBayes' IMAP support. And while I like POPFile, > there are a couple of things about SpamBayes I prefer. Sounds good to me :) > So as long as I can continue to get help, I'm willing to stick > with it, and possibly make a contribution to the development > effort, as well. Helping identify problems/bugs is enough of a contribution really. > > Can you try the attached sb_imapfilter.py script and tell > > me what the output is? I've added various debugging prints. > > Thanks for this. Here's what I get: > > >sb_imapfilter.py -b > SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.5 (November 2004) > and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). > > XXX Serving web interface That's not very far at all! It appears to be dying when creating the IMAP session, then, which is strange. Attached is a new version with more debugging prints in new places (this ought to be enough to narrow it down to a specific place). If you could do the same thing with this one (just sb_imapfilter.py -b is enough) that would be great. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes(a)python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

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RE: [Spambayes] question regarding Outlook2000?
by Tony Meyer Nov. 29, 2004

Nov. 29, 2004

> an Outlook2000 client running on a Win2kPro platform that > communicates via our LAN to an Exchange5.5 > Server. I do not have "personal folders" (*.pst file) setup > on my client, so that my mail remains on the server, even though > my Inbox opens up on the client. Can I still use the Spambayes > plugin on my Outlook2000 in this environment? Yes. Please see FAQ 3.3: <http://spambayes.org/faq.html#will-spambayes-work-with-outlook-connecting-t o-an-exchange-server> =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes(a)python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

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question regarding Outlook2000?
by Wayne Van Andel Nov. 29, 2004

Nov. 29, 2004

Spambayes, I just read about Spambayes in my Lockergnome eletter, and it sounds great. My configurations consists of an Outlook2000 client running on a Win2kPro platform that communicates via our LAN to an Exchange5.5 Server. I do not have "personal folders" (*.pst file) setup on my client, so that my mail remains on the server, even though my Inbox opens up on the client. Can I still use the Spambayes plugin on my Outlook2000 in this environment? Thanks for listening, Wayne Van Andel wvanandel(a)exploration.org

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VIRUS (Worm.Ganda-A) IN MAIL TO YOU (from <?@ppp5046.praha.tiscali.cz>)
by Content-filter at avas7.tiscali.cz Nov. 29, 2004

Nov. 29, 2004

VIRUS ALERT Our content checker found virus: Worm.Ganda-A in an email to you from unknown sender: ?(a)ppp5046.praha.tiscali.cz According to the 'Received:' trace, the message originated at: [213.235.68.92] -en--ek (ppp5046.praha.tiscali.cz [213.235.68.92]) Our internal reference code for this message is 04364-01-22. Not quarantined. Please contact your system administrator for details. ---@@@--- From: antivir(a)cz.tiscali.com Subject: VIRUS: Upozornění Body: V příchozím emailu byl nalezen virus: Worm.Ganda-A v souboru . Původní zpráva: Komu: spambayes(a)python.org Od: <-voigtova(a)podborany.net> (nemusí být správná adresa odesilatele). ------------------------ Pokud tyto zprávy nechcete doručovat nastavte si nové pravidlo pro zpracování příchozí pošty http://servicedesk.tiscali.cz/servicedesk/mail/avas/vir_smazat.php Antivirus můžete deaktivovat na této adrese : http://servicedesk.tiscali.cz/servicedesk/mail/avas/ ěščřžýáíéů tak toto je pokus. ======================= f: "Content-filter at avas7.tiscali.cz" <virusalert(a)tiscali.cz> T: spambayes(a)python.org C: B: p: h: avas7.tiscali.cz n: 04364-01-22 b: 87de5b292de930668cea7b52fa6a2fc4 d: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:03:56 +0100 (CET) u: 1101715436 U: 20041129T080356Z s: <-voigtova(a)podborany.net> t: -en--ek (ppp5046.praha.tiscali.cz [213.235.68.92]) a: g: e: 213.235.68.92 l: 1 o: ?(a)ppp5046.praha.tiscali.cz S: R: spambayes(a)python.org D: O: <spambayes(a)python.org> N: <spambayes(a)python.org>: 550 5.7.1 Message content rejected, id=04364-01-22 - VIRUS: Worm.Ganda-A j: m: <20041129080340.2B89A190C81(a)avas7.tiscali.cz> r: Q: H: Received: from -en--ek (ppp5046.praha.tiscali.cz [213.235.68.92]), by avas7.tiscali.cz (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B89A190C81, for <spambayes(a)python.org>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:03:40 +0100 (CET), MIME-Version: 1.0, Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1", Message-Id: <20041129080340.2B89A190C81(a)avas7.tiscali.cz>, Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:03:40 +0100 (CET), From: -voigtova(a)podborany.net, To: undisclosed-recipients:; z: 62537 i: virus-20041129-090356-04364-01-22 q: v: p003: Worm.Ganda-A FOUND V: Worm.Ganda-A F: W: ClamAV-clamd X: A: c: - 1: 0 2: 0 k: 0 T: spambayes(a)python.org .: R: spambayes(a)python.org D: O: <spambayes(a)python.org> N: <spambayes(a)python.org>: 550 5.7.1 Message content rejected, id=04364-01-22 - VIRUS: Worm.Ganda-A c: - 0: 1: 0 2: 0 k: 0

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VIRUS (Worm.Ganda-A) IN MAIL TO YOU (from <?@ppp5113.praha.tiscali.cz>)
by Content-filter at avas7.tiscali.cz Nov. 29, 2004

Nov. 29, 2004

VIRUS ALERT Our content checker found virus: Worm.Ganda-A in an email to you from unknown sender: ?(a)ppp5113.praha.tiscali.cz According to the 'Received:' trace, the message originated at: [213.235.68.159] -en--ek (ppp5113.praha.tiscali.cz [213.235.68.159]) Our internal reference code for this message is 03119-01-96. Not quarantined. Please contact your system administrator for details. ---@@@--- From: antivir(a)cz.tiscali.com Subject: VIRUS: Upozornění Body: V příchozím emailu byl nalezen virus: Worm.Ganda-A v souboru . Původní zpráva: G.W Bush animation. Komu: spambayes(a)python.org Od: <-voigtova(a)podborany.net> (nemusí být správná adresa odesilatele). ------------------------ Pokud tyto zprávy nechcete doručovat nastavte si nové pravidlo pro zpracování příchozí pošty http://servicedesk.tiscali.cz/servicedesk/mail/avas/vir_smazat.php Antivirus můžete deaktivovat na této adrese : http://servicedesk.tiscali.cz/servicedesk/mail/avas/ ěščřžýáíéů tak toto je pokus. ======================= f: "Content-filter at avas7.tiscali.cz" <virusalert(a)tiscali.cz> T: spambayes(a)python.org C: B: p: h: avas7.tiscali.cz n: 03119-01-96 b: 5a84818422b64886d2d0ba8f1bf969a7 d: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:41:37 +0100 (CET) u: 1101714097 U: 20041129T074137Z s: <-voigtova(a)podborany.net> t: -en--ek (ppp5113.praha.tiscali.cz [213.235.68.159]) a: g: e: 213.235.68.159 l: 1 o: ?(a)ppp5113.praha.tiscali.cz S: R: spambayes(a)python.org D: O: <spambayes(a)python.org> N: <spambayes(a)python.org>: 550 5.7.1 Message content rejected, id=03119-01-96 - VIRUS: Worm.Ganda-A j: G.W Bush animation. m: <20041129074122.60E2A190C6E(a)avas7.tiscali.cz> r: Q: H: Received: from -en--ek (ppp5113.praha.tiscali.cz [213.235.68.159]), by avas7.tiscali.cz (Postfix) with SMTP id 60E2A190C6E, for <spambayes(a)python.org>; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:41:22 +0100 (CET), To: <spambayes(a)python.org>, From: -voigtova(a)podborany.net, Subject: G.W Bush animation., MIME-Version: 1.0, Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1", Message-Id: <20041129074122.60E2A190C6E(a)avas7.tiscali.cz>, Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:41:22 +0100 (CET) z: 62692 i: virus-20041129-084137-03119-01-96 q: v: p003: Worm.Ganda-A FOUND V: Worm.Ganda-A F: W: ClamAV-clamd X: A: c: - 1: 0 2: 0 k: 0 T: spambayes(a)python.org .: R: spambayes(a)python.org D: O: <spambayes(a)python.org> N: <spambayes(a)python.org>: 550 5.7.1 Message content rejected, id=03119-01-96 - VIRUS: Worm.Ganda-A c: - 0: 1: 0 2: 0 k: 0

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spambayes and kmail
by Anthony Baxter Nov. 29, 2004

Nov. 29, 2004

So here's the situation with spambayes and kmail. The next pointfix release of kde (which includes kmail) will include limited support for automatically setting up spambayes - basically just filtering for 'spam'. The next major release (3.4) will include the unsure folder and the like. This is all pretty damn cool, in my opinion... it gives us integration with a full-featured GUI mailer on Unix, in a way that's similar to the Outlook interface (although, obviously without the nice admin GUI - perhaps it would be worth writing code to generate a prefs GUI using different toolkits? There's code in shtoom that does this that could be lifted... Anthony

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RE: [Spambayes] Unable to Access SpamBayes Browser Interface Usingsb_imapfilter.py
by Tony Meyer Nov. 29, 2004

Nov. 29, 2004

> Thanks, everyone, for your help. I hate to give up on SpamBayes, > but this problem first appeared on September 30, and I need to > find something that works. If you mean that you want to stop trying to figure out what's wrong and move onto something else, then I understand. The 'related' page on our website links to various other filters that all should work very well - unfortunately I'm not familiar enough with them to know which work with IMAP - I gather POPfile has experimental IMAP support, so maybe that would be a good choice. <http://spambayes.org/related.html> If this is the case, then you can ignore the rest of this. > Sorry for my frequent reposts on this topic in the past. I don't > know why I'm missing messages from the list, but I just checked > the archives and found that Tony had replied to this thread--and > it never arrived in my inbox. Maybe you have mailman set to avoid sending you copies of messages that include you in the recipient list (this is the default, I believe), but for some reason (bad reply address?) you aren't getting the remaining one? You can go into your mailman settings (the link to that is at the end of each message) and alter that; maybe that will help. [trying sb_server instead] > It works perfectly. So imapfilter is at fault, then. > I also noticed that a message displays saying, "User interface url > is http://localhost:8880". I don't get this with sb_imapfilter.py. > Should I? Yes, you should. This is quite strange. The problem must be with imapfilter since sb_server works, but imapfilter does almost nothing when -c or -t aren't used. The process doesn't stop (right?) so it's either hanging or running after failing to register the web interface. Can you try the attached sb_imapfilter.py script and tell me what the output is? I've added various debugging prints. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes(a)python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

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RE: [Spambayes] Using spambayes
by Tony Meyer Nov. 29, 2004

Nov. 29, 2004

> One good practice I can offer to MS Outlook users - let SB > move the spams to a folder of your choice ("Junk E-mail" > would be a good choice in Outlook 2003), but then move them > to a special folder in a separate PST file. This way, you > keep all the spam messages but your normal PST does not grow. FWIW, I do this, too. If you're going to keep your spam messages, then it would definitely be worth moving them other than your main pst file, since it certainly seems that Outlook performance suffers as a pst file gets large. =Tony.Meyer

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RE: [Spambayes] Using spambayes
by Katz, Amir Nov. 28, 2004

Nov. 28, 2004

One good practice I can offer to MS Outlook users - let SB move the spams to a folder of your choice ("Junk E-mail" would be a good choice in Outlook 2003), but then move them to a special folder in a separate PST file. This way, you keep all the spam messages but your normal PST does not grow. Then, if at some point you run into an unrecoverable SB problem, you can build the knowledge base from scratch by using the corpus that you kept on the side. Amir -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 02:30 To: 'Maureen Cox'; spambayes(a)python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Using spambayes > Do I then have to delete all the messages which appear in > the junkmail folder It's up to you. Once they are there, they're of no use to SpamBayes. See FAQ 3.17: <http://spambayes.org/faq.html#is-it-ok-to-delete-the-messages-in-the-spam-f older> > and if I keep doing this, will the junk mail eventually be filtered and stop appearing ?? I'm not sure what you mean by this, so if my answer doesn't make sense, please clarify and I'll try again :) The way SpamBayes works is that it initially knows nothing about what you think is good mail (ham) and what you think is bad mail (spam). You teach it by giving it examples of ham and spam, and it then classifies incoming mail based on that knowledge. The way that we recommend Outlook users train is to use the "Delete as spam" and "Recover from spam" buttons (or just drag the messages to the ham/spam folders) on all messages that end up in the unsure (Possible Junk) folder and any messages that are incorrect (ham in the spam folder, spam not moved). It shouldn't take very much training before classification is very good. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes(a)python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ Spambayes(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html

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Unable to Access SpamBayes Browser Interface Using sb_imapfilter.py
by Keith Russell Nov. 28, 2004

Nov. 28, 2004

I'm reposting this problem because it was buried in another thread and apparently got lost: When I start the IMAP script I'm not getting a browser window. The verbose output gives me three messages, which look okay, with no errors, but no browser. And opening a browser window and entering the URL manually gives me an error. I also can't telnet to localhost:8880. Here are the specifics: 1. >sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -l 5 SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.4 (May 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). 2. >sb_imapfilter.py -b -v SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.4 (May 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). Loading database C:\...\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db... Loading state from c:\...\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db database c:\...\SpamBayes\Proxy\hammie.db is an existing database, with 0 spam and 0 ham Done. 4. http://localhost:8880 The page cannot be displayed The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings. 3. >telnet localhost:8880 Connecting to localhost:8880...Could not open connection to the host, on post 23: Connect failed Can anyone help me out with this? Thanks in advance.... -- Keith

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