Mailman 3 March 2005 - SpamBayes

RE: [Spambayes] v 1.04
by Tony Meyer March 31, 2005

March 31, 2005

> I just installed the new release, and the button for the > toolbar dropdown list doesn't work. -sean Please send us a copy of your most recent log file (see the Troubleshooting Guide for details). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes(a)python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

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RE: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Log (944 MB) consuming full space in my C:drive!
by Tony Meyer March 31, 2005

March 31, 2005

> I tried turning it off at the web site. I sent 'remove' to > the list admin, and I sent a message to the unsubscribe > address. You're obviously doing something wrong. I'll send you a message offlist and if you reply to it (proving that you have access to that email address) then I'll manually remove you from the list for you. > Why are you spamming me? I'm not. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes(a)python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

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RE: [Spambayes] Junk suspects
by Tony Meyer March 31, 2005

March 31, 2005

> My junk suspects has disappeared. How do I find it? Please see FAQ 3.13: <http://spambayes.org/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam-folder> =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes(a)python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

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Junk suspects
by Malone, Shareese March 30, 2005

March 30, 2005

My junk suspects has disappeared. How do I find it? Thanks Shareese Malone, CID Interior Design Capital Project Management Division Phone: 859-257-5911 X253 samalo2(a)email.uky.edu

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SpamBayer hangs my outlook while processing....
by peter＠pcnetsol.com March 30, 2005

March 30, 2005

Hi, I have 1.0.4 SpamBayes running on Outlook2002 on a Windows2000 workstation. When I start up outlook, it hourglasses for 5-10 minutes. Every time a new e-mail comes in, doesn't matter what I do, it locks up Outlook for that period of time. This is usually 5-30 seconds long. But sometimes longer. Even if I'm writing an e-mail.. it wills top responding for that time period. I read the FAQ, but didn't find anything relating to this. What would help to speed it up and not put me on hold each time? thanks, -Peter

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SpamBayes Log (944 MB) consuming full space in my C: drive!
by Angsuman Chakraborty March 30, 2005

March 30, 2005

Hi, Is there any way to prevent SpamBayes from logging? It is consuming all the space in my C: (944 MB) with a log file which just has the following line repeated ad-infinitum till it consumes all my hard-disk space! warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception I can include the log file (all 944 MB of it) as has been suggested by your automatic response system. However I am positive that it wouldn't serve any purpose. I want to disable logging, at the least limit the size. Is there a way? Also how can I specify where to store the log file? I searched through all options in vain! I am using SpamBayes as POP3 proxy to interface with my email system (Mercury). It works fine for a time before it suddenly starts doing this. I have included the log file truncated manually after few lines of the repeated message shown above. I am using Windows 2000 Pro. Edition. Can you please help? Thanks, Angsuman -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces(a)python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:03 PM To: angsuman(a)taragana.com Subject: Auto-response for your message to the "Spambayes" mailing list READ THIS! (If you want help.) This is an automated response to an email message you sent to the spambayes(a)python.org mailing list. Please read this message carefully to see if it answers your question(s). Before you do anything else: ---------------------------- Before asking a question on the list, please take a moment and check the frequently asked questions page: http://spambayes.org/faq.html If you are using the Outlook plug-in, please also take the time to read the troubleshooting guide - a copy was installed with the plug-in, or you can read it online: http://spambayes.org/docs.html Note that you need to include a copy of your log files with any message asking for help with a problem, or we won't have enough information to be able to help you. What is SpamBayes? ------------------ The SpamBayes project was formed to develop a Bayesian anti-spam filter, initially based on the work of Paul Graham. The major difference between this and other, similar, projects is the emphasis on testing newer approaches to scoring messages. You can read all about SpamBayes on the project's website: http://spambayes.org/ Will Spambayes run on my system/in my environment? -------------------------------------------------- Yes, though which tools you use and the amount of work necessary to get started will vary depending on your computing platform, email client and how you get mail from a mail server. I'm having trouble installing SpamBayes. Help! ----------------------------------------------- Please ensure that you have the latest version. As of March 24, 2005, this is 1.0.4 for both the source and for the binary installer (for the Outlook plug-in and sb_server). If you are still having trouble, try looking at the bug reports that are currently open: http://sf.net/tracker/?group_id=61702&atid=498103 If you can't find anything, then else submit a bug (see below), or if you think it's just something you're doing wrong, ask the list. I found a bug. -------------- Please file a bug report: http://sf.net/tracker/?group_id=61702&atid=498103 If you post your bug report to the mailing list, there's always the chance it will get missed. Filing a bug report also provides a single place to collect all the data related to the bug, making it easier to put all the pieces together which are necessary to fix the underlying problem. Subscribing to the SpamBayes mailing list. ------------------------------------------ The spambayes(a)python.org mailing list formed in September 2002 to support development of the SpamBayes spam filtering system as an outgrowth of earlier threads on the Python developers' mailing list. You can subscribe to the SpamBayes mailing list using the form at http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005

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RE: [Spambayes] Automatic deployment of SpamBayes
by Tony Meyer March 30, 2005

March 30, 2005

> Plus I couldn't unpack the > installer file to get to the contents. I don't know what Inno does to build installers, so I don't know if that's possible. You can build everything yourself, if you want to go that route (instructions are in the README-DEVEL.txt file in the source distribution). (Ran across this later, which indicates that maybe it can be done: <http://www.jrsoftware.org/iskb.php?extract>) > You mentioned the inno help - I searched both the website and > the local files and couldn't find it. I can't find it on Inno's website either, just in the documentation you get when you install it. So I've put it on our wiki: <http://entrian.com/sbwiki/InstallerTips> > The register-outlook-addin.exe seems to work. I installed the > exe installer version, logged in as a different user and ran > the tool - afterwards the user was able to run the config > circle and start the add-in. You can also run the tool with the command line option "HEKY_LOCAL_MACHINE" and it will install for all users, if that was what was wanted. (This doesn't help if it's just a subset of users that need to have it enabled, of course). > It would be great, though, if I could just take an existing > msi - if available - and combine it with an active setup to > install the add-in for any possible user. There isn't a msi at the moment, sorry. There's a feature request that includes creating one: [ 1031959 ] Silent mode for installation <https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498106&aid=1031959&group_ id=61702> But this was closed (by me). Everything that the OP wanted could be done with Inno, so there didn't seem to be much point. If someone wants to contribute a script to create a MSI, I'm happy to work on incorporating it into the build process. I don't know enough to write one myself, though. Ryan Malayter suggested using the MSI package editor to create a MSI: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2004-January/010745.html> IIRC, a future version of the Python distutils will have a build_msi option (I seem to recall MvL saying this), which we could probably use. That's a while off yet, though (possibly Python 2.5, which is due late 2006 I think). > The worst problem was the fact that our users don't have > administrator rights. This is covered by this feature request: [ 1124409 ] Remove admin registry write requirements for install <http://sf.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1124409&group_id=61702&atid =498106> There was a fair bit of discussion on the spambayes(a)python.org list recently about whether the admin requirements should be removed or not. ISTM that if they are not required for the install process to work, then we should not require them, and that would avoid problems like this. Others believe that requiring admin rights is good, so that we don't make it easy for people to install software when their admin people don't want them to. No-one really managed to convince anyone of anything new ;) For the moment, the feature request is still open, but I'm not planning to personally work on it until I've done many other things I've got planned. So a kinda of status quo. > I had to use the old Sysinternals' > regmon to find out which HKCR paths were to be opened Part of the feature request (which will be done soon) is to document the current requirement, including the exact keys that are needed. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes(a)python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

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RE: [Spambayes] Moving SpamBayes Settings to new computer
by Tony Meyer March 30, 2005

March 30, 2005

> Now I've got a new computer (Win XP and Outlook 2003) and I'd like to > move the training over to the new machine. Please see FAQ 3.6: <http://spambayes.org/faq.html#can-i-share-move-my-training-data-from-one-co mputer-to-another> > I have not yet installed SpamBayes on the new machine. You'll find it easier to avoid problems if you install SpamBayes first, do the configuration (selecting folders, etc), and skip training, and *then* close Outlook and copy the .db files across. (Rather than copying the .db files before the SpamBayes install). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes(a)python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

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Moving SpamBayes Settings to new computer
by Cathy Belleville March 30, 2005

March 30, 2005

I've been a happy Spambayes user who has dutifully trained her system (Win XP, Outlook XP) over the past year. Now I've got a new computer (Win XP and Outlook 2003) and I'd like to move the training over to the new machine. I have not yet installed SpamBayes on the new machine. Any pointers on where to find directions on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for a great program! Cathy Belleville A Bit Better Corporation 444 First Street, Suite B Los Altos CA 94022 ph: 650-948-4766 fx: 650-948-4903 email: cathyh(a)bitbetter.com web: www.bitbetter.com

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RE: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0.4
by Tony Meyer March 29, 2005

March 29, 2005

> I have just this morning downloaded v1.0.4 of SpamBayes Outlook > plugin binary. Unfortunately, when I (re)start Outlook I get the > "SpamBayes could not be initialised" message. The log file is > attached - something to do with python? The plug-in is enabled > in the Outlook COM plugs-in options page. I have restarted, but > to no avail. > > A couple of weeks ago, I tried with v1.0.3, but I couldn't even > get the plug-in to enable in Outlook (although it was listed). > > For your information, I am running Outlook 2000 SR-1 (9.0.0.4527) > under NT 4.00.1381 (SP 6) Unfortunately, it appears that 1.0.3/1.0.4 do not work with NT 4: [ 1115105 ] Binary will not work with NT <http://sf.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1115105&group_id=61702&atid =498103> I believe that the problem is a bug with the pywin32 package, which SpamBayes uses. Although this bug has been fixed in pywin32, there hasn't been a new release of that package for a while, which means that 1.0.3 uses the same version as 1.0.4. When there is a new release available, then SpamBayes will definitely use that. I might look at manually patching the version we use for 1.1a1 so we can at least verify that this is indeed the problem. As far as I know, 1.0.1 will work with NT, however, so for the moment I recommend using that, if possible. (You can monitor the tracker above, or just look for the bug id# in the release notes, to see when we believe it is fixed). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes(a)python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

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