Mailman 3 April 2005 - SpamBayes

RE: [Spambayes] Win32 Command Line
by Tony Meyer Jan. 10, 2007

Jan. 10, 2007

> I've been trying to find a way to run SpamBayes from the > command line against "raw" email files on Windows Server > 2003. Obviously, I'm trying to integrate this with a mail > server. Does anybody have any experience with this or > suggestions on where I can find more information? My initial > searches have come up empty handed. You need to be running from source, and the sb_filter script is probably a good place to start. You may wish to read: <http://spambayes.org/server_side.html>. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes(a)python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy.

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RE: [Spambayes] Feature Request
by Jesse Pelton May 10, 2005

May 10, 2005

Outlook rules and Thunderbird filters allow you to move messages to a folder based on sender. (In my version of Outlook, "Move messages from someone to a folder" is the first of several rule templates listed in the wizard that comes up when I start to create a new rule.) They can do a great deal more besides. Both also allow you to move messages from any sender in an address book to a folder, which seems like a simple and useful form of whitelisting. (Thunderbird also allows you to send messages from senders not in your address book to a folder, but I couldn't find a way to do this with Outlook.) Note that this information is based on quick experimentation with each program. Since SpamBayes does a great job of classifying my mail, I've never taken the trouble to set up any rules or filters. I can't speak for any other mail clients, but I imagine that you're correct in believing that they must have similar capabilities to be competitive. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces(a)python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Skip Montanaro > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:42 PM > To: Katz, Amir > Cc: spambayes(a)python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Feature Request > > > Amir> W/o diving into this interesting flame (:-) I would > like to make > Amir> one point regarding your own setup - Myself, and I > assume most > Amir> other users of SB do NOT have access to the step in > mail food > Amir> chain where procmail and similar tools can be installed & > Amir> configured. We're stuck with the organizational > policy of using an > Amir> end-user mail client (like Outlook) so the only > weapon that we > Amir> have is a plug-in in Outlook (or the SB proxy for POP3). > > I understand what you're saying, but could only speak from my > own experience > with procmail. I believe Outlook has a pretty full-featured filter > capability that allows you to route mail to mailboxes based > on more-or-less > arbitrary header field contents. I think most of my special procmail > recipes could be translated to Outlook filter rules without major > aggravation. I suspect any mail program that pretends to compete with > Outlook (Eudora, Mozilla Mail, Apple's Mail.app, etc) has to support > something similar. > > Can someone out there tell me conclusively that Outlook or any Outlook > wannabe (*) can't do something like "route all mail from > guido(a)python.org to > my guido mailbox"? > > Skip > > (*) Outlook Express does not count as an Outlook wannabe. > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html >

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RE: [Spambayes] Windows 2003 Server SP1 breaks Outlook Plugin?
by Tony Meyer May 6, 2005

May 6, 2005

> I ran Outlook. It crashed. > > I tried to run PythonWin.exe to capture any debug output, but > it GPF'd. Eeek. [...] > So, I decided to use win32traceutil.py to see if it could > capture anything. [...] > C:\Program Files\Python24\Lib\site-packages\win32\lib>python > win32traceutil.py > Collecting Python Trace Output... > Object with win32trace dispatcher created (object=None) > > Not very helpful if you ask me. No log files this time. Anything that would have gone into the log would have appeared in the traceutil output - having that empty is like the empty log. > Here's the output: > > C:\Program Files\Python24\Lib\site-packages\win32\lib>python > Python 2.4.1 (#65, Mar 30 2005, 09:13:57) [MSC v.1310 32 bit > (Intel)] on win32 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or > "license" for more information. > >>> quit > 'Use Ctrl-Z plus Return to exit.' > >>> ^Z > > I'm beginning to suspect its Python and not SpamBayes that is > the problem. >From the above, it looks like Python is ok, but the pywin32 extensions are not (which would also stop SpamBayes working, before it managed to get to a log). > Is there anything else I can get for you? Since you've got Python and pywin32 installed, could you try opening a command window, running Python ('C:\Program Files\Python24\python.exe' I'm guessing) and trying these statements. I suspect one of them will crash Python: import win32api import win32com import win32con import win32gui import pythoncom If one of them does, then the problem is definitely with pywin32 somehow. The bad news is that I have no idea about how to fix that, but the good news is that if you open a pywin32 bug, Mark is usually pretty good and fixing things reasonably promptly. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

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RE: [Spambayes] how to remove spam from subject for incorrectly makedmail
by Tony Meyer May 1, 2005

May 1, 2005

> How do you remove the spam label from the subject of > incorrectly marked mail? I don't believe you can edit messages with Outlook Express, which I assume you are using (I don't know of any other mail programs that are so limited that the subject tags are needed). That means you can't. (You should train SpamBayes on such mail, of course, via the web interface). =Tony.Meyer

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Re: [Spambayes] Remove
by Robert Mezzone April 30, 2005

April 30, 2005

Did you try removing the toolbar, I believe it's "View" "Toolbars". You may need admin rights to delete the spambayes folder from program files. You should consider keeping Spambayes, no single Spam filter blocks everything. Spambayes is a nice complement to the filter running on our mail server. The combination has virtually eliminated spam from my inbox. Hth. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces(a)python.org <spambayes-bounces(a)python.org> To: spambayes(a)python.org <spambayes(a)python.org> Sent: Sat Apr 30 09:42:44 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Remove Company went to a spam blocker on email server so I no longer need spambayes. I removed program using add remove programs in control panel. The program still shows up when I start outlook. Computer won’t let me delete spambayes folder. What do I do to completely remove program? Thanks Brian K. Mulry field supervisor 507-794-2151 x126 507-220-7944(cell)

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Remove
by Mulry, Brian April 30, 2005

April 30, 2005

Company went to a spam blocker on email server so I no longer need spambayes. I removed program using add remove programs in control panel. The program still shows up when I start outlook. Computer won't let me delete spambayes folder. What do I do to completely remove program? Thanks Brian K. Mulry field supervisor 507-794-2151 x126 507-220-7944(cell)

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mac os x install error
by James Coupe April 30, 2005

April 30, 2005

hi has anyone seen this when installing spam bayes on os x? error: /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/bin/sb_bnfilter.py: Permission denied - james

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RE: [Spambayes] filter problem
by Tony Meyer April 29, 2005

April 29, 2005

> However, mails from "NASA" keep getting delivered to "spam" > folder, despite the fact I train/retrain the filter not to > treat it as "spam". The only way to know why a message scored what it did is to look at the clues. Next time a message is misclassified (before you do any training on it) take a look at the clues - if you can't see why it's scoring what it is, then forward them on to the list, and we can help out. You can see the clues list via the web interface (you can use sb_upload or just sb_server and use the form on the main page), or there's a script to print them out in CVS (and will be in 1.1) in the contrib/ directory, or if you turn on the X-Spambayes-Evidence header they will be there. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes(a)python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

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RE: [Spambayes] Junk Suspects to Delete
by Tony Meyer April 29, 2005

April 29, 2005

> Once you've chosen to > "Delete As Spam" couldn't the messages go straight to the > Deleted Items folder so you don't have to look at them > another time in the Junk Mail Folder? This is covered in this feature request: [ 973376 ] Make "Delete as Spam" *really* Delete the email <http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=973376&group_id=61 702&atid=498106> Feel free to add any comments or your additional request to the tracker. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

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Junk Suspects to Delete
by Maury King April 28, 2005

April 28, 2005

This is a question or a suggestion. Once you've chosen to "Delete As Spam" couldn't the messages go straight to the Deleted Items folder so you don't have to look at them another time in the Junk Mail Folder? Thanks for telling me how or considering it for a future version. Maury King http://www.IPaintGlass.com maury(a)IPaintGlass.com 206-722-3200

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