Mailman 3 April 2008 - SpamBayes

Problem with Spambayes
by Eric Rossiter May 5, 2008

May 5, 2008

I sent the following email some time ago and have not seen it appear in the Spambayes Digest. I'm not sure if I'm sending it to the right address. Any help would be much appreciated Hello, I have a small network of 10 PC's running off a Microsoft small business server 2003 Most installations went with out a hitch and work fine however three PC have a problem. The problem is as follows Having installed Spambayes whenever I click on the Spambayes button to select the manager menu I get a message saying Outlook has to close and do I want to send a report. It doesn't matter if I say send report of don't send report the result is the same....Outlook shuts down and instantly reopens. i.e I cannot open the manu Exactly the same thing happens if I highlight an email to train as spam. OR to untrained as spam from the junk-email folder...... Outlook comes up with the same "about to close" message. when i click the button it then closes down and reopens immediately. The training or untraining is carried out. I have uninstalled and reinstalled outlook. I have downloaded the latest updates of outlook and Office. I have uninstalled and re installed Spambayes. But its still there The computers are HP Compaq mostly Pentium 4 or Dual core. All running Windows XP 2002, SP2 Any help would be appreciated Regards Eric Rossiter

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Re: [Spambayes] [SpamBayes] Spam Clues ????? ??????
by Amedee Van Gasse April 30, 2008

April 30, 2008

On Wed, April 30, 2008 02:09, alan falk wrote: > If you can describe the process [which is what they did,] it can be > programmed. > That's all I meant. > > Just as SpamBayes filters things which I could be making a decision on, > too... There is a small but critical flaw in your reasoning. It is virtually impossible to describe the mental processes going on in my mind (and your mind) to determine if an email is ham or spam. If there ever were such an algorithm, there would be no need to train Spambayes. Heck, there wouldn't even be a need for Spambayes in the first place, because your theoretical algorithm would be the perfect spamfilter all by itself. Because trying to replicate human mental processes is doomed to fail, various approximations are used. A statistical approximation is one approach, and Spambayes is one implementation of a statistical approach to attempt to mimic human mental processes. It's not perfect, and it will never be, but it's good enough. -- Amedee

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why read mail
by Steve Malee April 29, 2008

April 29, 2008

I read in one of the "help" training messages that mail should always be checked (spam or ham that is being trained) that the message is read. I have not done that, and did not realize it should be done, and what is the reason to check the mail is read option? Am using the Outlook plug-in - under XP Pro SP2 and Outlook 2003

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April 29, 2008

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Re: [Spambayes] Spam Clues ????? ??????
by Amedee Van Gasse April 29, 2008

April 29, 2008

On Mon, April 28, 2008 21:46, alan falk wrote: > How about an option IN SpamBayes to do this automatically? > Choose the number of iterations? > > Cheers! > Alan Falk > Raleigh, NC > +af > www.plusaf.com > ========================================= > Email protected, incoming and outgoing by F-Prot Anti-Virus > ========================================= How would you automate this? My procedure relies on user input: the user has to decide what is spam and what not. Can you automate user input? That would defeat the usage of SpamBayes in the first place... It's not much work. 15' the first time, and max. 5'/week for additional training. And it's fun, because you can actually *see* SpamBayes improving. I wouldn't automate this for all the money in the world (you can give me some anyway ;-) ) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces+plusaf=plusaf.com(a)python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces+plusaf=plusaf.com@python.org] On Behalf Of > Amedee > Van Gasse > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:33 AM > To: spambayes(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam Clues ????? ?????? > > > On Wed, April 16, 2008 19:34, David wrote: >> >> Am getting loads of spam with cyrillic characters and would like to know >> if >> Spambayes can automatically delete anything with these characters in >> their >> headers. Below is score info for typical one. If you need it, could >> send >> you the config file if you can tell me where to find it. >> >> Kindest regards >> David Kanareck >> >> >> >> >> >> Combined Score: 57% (0.567348) >> >> Internal ham score (*H*): 0.285187 >> Internal spam score (*S*): 0.419882 >> > > >> # ham trained on: 39 >> # spam trained on: 76 > > That is not much training. In my experience, Spambayes gets *extremely* > accurate after about 100 hams and 100 spams. Your mileage may vary. > With the Outlook plugin, I add a column that shows the spam score (see > FAQ/wiki for details). I sort on spam score. I look at the bottom and find > one spam with the lowest score. Train as spam. Rescore inbox. Now I look > at the top, and find one ham with the highest score. Train as ham, > rescore. Back to the lowest spam, rescore. Highest ham, rescore. Lather, > rince, repeat. Very quickly you will see that all spam scores above 99% > and all ham scores below 1%. > > This method of training is so kewl that I have actually considered > installing Outlook on Linux, just so that I could train Spambayes this > way. > >> 'message.' 0.310872 15 13 >> >> 'date:' 0.325631 14 13 >> >> 'checked' 0.341867 13 13 >> >> 'database:' 0.341867 13 13 >> >> 'incoming' 0.341867 13 13 >> >> 'version:' 0.341867 13 13 >> >> 'virus' 0.35698 14 15 >> >> 'release' 0.358294 13 14 >> >> 'avg.' 0.359817 12 13 >> >> 'skip:2 10' 0.359817 12 13 >> >> 'found' 0.385564 14 17 > > These are generic tokens added by your virus scanner. After more training > they will score around .5 which means they will neither increase nor > decrease the global spam score of a message. > >> 'to:no real name:2**0' 0.750084 10 59 >> >> 'header:Received:1' 0.893006 1 18 > > Interesting tokens... > >> 'from:charset:koi8-r' 0.908163 0 2 >> >> 'subjectcharset:koi8-r' 0.908163 0 2 > > And those last two are *really* interesting tokens! > Keep on training, I can already see that your Spambayes is improving. > > > -- > Amedee Van Gasse > amedee(a)amedee.be > > Disclaimer: > By sending an email to ANY of my addresses you are agreeing that: > > 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" > 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and > make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends > itself to. In particular, I may quote it on usenet. > 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. > 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that > may be included on your message. > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee(a)amedee.be Disclaimer: By sending an email to ANY of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. In particular, I may quote it on usenet. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message.

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April 29, 2008

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Spambayes acts strangely. Is it a bug?
by Jeanine Leibowitch April 28, 2008

April 28, 2008

Hi, I have a big mess in my computer, I hope you will help me with that part of it! I work in Win XP SP2, and Outllok. A few weeks ago, I upgraded my AVG 7.5 which was wonderful to AVG 8. What a disaster! They say to uninstall Spambayes because there could be some conflicts. I had used Spambayes for years, it was well trained and great. I didn't want to do it since I was not sure, so I emailed you and a person kindly suggested me to go to help and disable items. So did I. Ok, After 2 weeks fighting with this awful software (maybe it is not yet on its operational phase), I uninstalled it (or tried). To make a very long and painful story short, I needed to reinstall Spambayes in my Outlook 2002. I first tried to re-enable, which is not possible, there is no disable item (???) It doesn't work. I have as buttons "recover from Spam" and "Spambayes" with an arrow that doesn't work. But no "delete as Spam". I uninstalled it from control panel, then Search and deleted all Spambayes related files. Then tried to reinstall it. I still have this half bar, and nothing works. I also did a few "restore to a previous point". Could you please tell me what to do? all junk go to my inbox. I thank you very much Best regards Jeanine Leibowitch

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Accidentally deleted SPAM folder
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April 28, 2008

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trying to install
by cathy＠dynamiclearningsolutions.net April 28, 2008

April 28, 2008

Hello, My name is Cathy Pease and I have downloaded SpamBytes 1.0.4 I am having difficulty getting it to work,however. I have Outlook Express 6 and I have tried to access a log file, but have been unsuccessful. Any other thoughts? Thanks, Cathy Pease

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NDR SPAMS
by Gilbert Maldonado April 28, 2008

April 28, 2008

We are currently getting alot of this notifications of non-delivery that are spam. Is there a patch for this or one on the way by chance? Thanks Gilbert maldonado

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