Mailman 3 May 2008 - SpamBayes

Problem with Spambayes
by Eric Rossiter June 7, 2008

June 7, 2008

Hi, I sent the following request for help a while back I got one reply telling me to make sure my DEP was turned of, but i didn't get a response to "what is my DEP" question heres the problem again, if any one can help me i would really appreciate it Thank you Eric Rossiter PROBLEM I have a small network of 10 PC's running off a Microsoft small business server 2003 Most installations went with out a hitch and work fine however three PC have a problem. The problem is as follows Having installed Spambayes...... whenever I click on the Spambayes button to select the manager menu I get a message saying Outlook has to close and do I want to send a report. It doesn't matter if I say send report of don't send report the result is the same....Outlook shuts down. Exactly the same thing happens if I highlight an email to train as spam. OR to untrained as spam from the junk-email folder...... Outlook comes up with the same "about to close" message. when i click the button it then closes down. . The training or untraining is carried out. I have uninstalled and reinstalled outlook. I have downloaded the latest updates of outlook and Office. I have uninstalled and re installed Spambayes. But its still happens The computers are HP Compaq mostly Pentium 4 or Dual core. All running Windows XP 2002, SP2 Any help would be appreciated Regards Eric Rossiter <outbind://104-00000000C1C23A424F96184BBCB4627A066E701F0700CE4A4D273A2F9 542AE83A03F05260B340000003715F30000CE4A4D273A2F9542AE83A03F05260B3400000 0373A210000/cid:062484305@11042008-2AA1> Regards Eric Rossiter

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Outlook 2k3, SB 1.04, 5-6 seconds per message, normal?
by Jason N Lee May 30, 2008

May 30, 2008

Hello world! Been using SpamBayes for gosh darned near 3 or 4 years now, it seems. Wonderful product, through and through, keeps me sane when it comes to all the spam my domains get hit with. About a year ago I noticed that the time to process messages was getting longer and longer. At the same time I had several other applications running slowly, and I naively attributed this to "Oh dear, it's been 5 years, time to upgrade the PC..." Well, built the new system (Intel quad core, 3GB ram, etc), installed Outlook, SpamBayes, and well... I'm surprised to discover that the Outlook processing time has not really changed at all. Digging a bit further, it looks like Outlook is hardly taxing the CPU, or the memory. Some part of MS's MSAPI32.DLL is definitely interrupting some other component of Windows, however, because occasionally the processing will down right stall the entire OS. I had the opportunity to try this installation two separate ways - a fresh clean Windows XP SP2 install, with Outlook, and SpamBayes, and then an installation with several other applications (Symantec AV, NOD32, ZoneAlarm, etc) rotated in and out. So far I have not found any clear program that slows it down more or speeds it up. So with all that introduction out of the way. is 5-6 seconds per message a normal figure? Here are some stats, and by all means, tell me if you'd like more or other stats: I am running Windows XP SP2 with latest patches up to SP3, with 4GB of RAM (32bit though so only approx 3.3GB is usable by the OS) I am running Outlook 2003 SP3 with the latest patches etc. My Outlook PST is approximately 500k , approximately 14,000 messages inside it. I have two rules scanning my inbox in Outlook, trying to capture bounced messages to spam that is falsely being labeled as my address. I have ZoneAlarm 7.xx running, however I have disabled its mail interception options. I have Symantec Corporate AntiVirus 10.xx running, however I have disabled its mail interception options. I have attempted to flat out disable the above applications as well as the Outlook rules to see if this effects processing time. It has had no effect. Using Process Explorer I see Outlook.exe only get up to a peak of 5% of the available CPU, and every few seconds it has an I/O as it retrieves the next email. Pause, retrieve, pause, retrieve. MSAPI32.DLL is the busiest process there, but, well, I assume that to be Outlook.. My log is not very verbose, I think, perhaps I should make it more verbose? >From the last load: Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\censored\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\censored\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 8050 spam and 2595 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/spamhut' Message 'Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Processing 1 missed spam in folder 'Inbox' took 67.2857ms Ok, and now, last but not least, this has decided to mock me because in my latest send/receive the system blazed through about 100 pieces of spam in just about 2 minutes. All that changed between when I started this message and ended this message is I had reviewed the log file to get the above quote. I also exited Outlook, waited for it to close (seems to take an extra minute or so before the actual process ends, even after the window closes), and then restarted Outlook twice while messing with the verbosity settings. The first time I entered Outlook, it was slow, the second time, it just went fast to punish me. What in the world! Could it just be the types of spam are different, and something is having trouble with one kind of spam while other kinds of spam are fast? The majority of my processes are slow, I have to keep Outlook running and checking continuously otherwise I will get a backlog of messages that will take 1-2 hours to process. Thanks for reading this long rambling post. Any feedback or advice would be most welcome.. !

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Just subscribed; have quick question
by emailshere May 29, 2008

May 29, 2008

Is this list the email version of the SpamBayes forum on nabble.com? I posted an inquiry there just now, and I don't mean to cross-post, but I'm going to post the same question here. Sorry if I've broken any rules. I was unaware of this mailing list until after posting at nabble. Thanks, SB

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Re: [Spambayes] 1031 Spam, 461 Good, Processed ZERO
by Mark Hammond May 29, 2008

May 29, 2008

[Adding list back in] > I'm not using an Exchange server (just Pop3). > > Yes, Personal Folders\Inbox is where all my new email arrives. If it's > spam, I highlight and move it to a folder I created under the Inbox. > Initially, I moved it to the folder SpamBayes created, named Junk E- > Mail. > Neither system has worked. I tried training on the Junk E-Mail folder > contents, then moved everything to my own Spam folder and trained on > that. > > I also spent some days just hitting the Delete As Spam button (frown > face). > > I must have something set up wrong, or maybe I need to reinstall > SpamBayes. It doesn't seem to be setup incorrectly, as the log indicates it is trying to watch the Inbox for filtering. Eg, my log shows: """ SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Spam' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Message 'Re: DirectoryWatcher (rough draft)' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message ... """ Which looks roughly the same as yours - note however that mine does show messages being processed. I think I recall you were watching the "maybe" folder, which is probably wrong, but doesn't explain why SB isn't seeing new messages that arrive in your inbox. I'm afraid I've no other ideas :( Mark

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Re: [Spambayes] Running filter.py
by OConchubhair, Andoni May 29, 2008

May 29, 2008

Thanks Mark. I'll have a go at trying to get to it this way. I'm not hopeful though. If I get anything generic working that is worth sharing I'll let you know. Andoni _____ From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond@skippinet.com.au] Sent: 29 May 2008 13:34 To: OConchubhair, Andoni; spambayes(a)python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Running filter.py I'm afraid not without hacking on the Python source code and taking a fair bit of pain :( It might be worth seeing of some VB or similar code can be used to invoke any Outlook toolbar coommand, and use that to hit that option I pointed at... Cheers, Mark From: spambayes-bounces(a)python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of OConchubhair, Andoni Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 6:48 PM To: spambayes(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Running filter.py Thanks Mark. Unfortunately that doesn't solve my problem. I need to be able to click that button using a Windows batch file (a .cmd file). So I was hoping I could do a call to some python program which would have the same effect as clicking that button. Can I run filter.py from the command line in some way to do this? Thanks, Andoni. _____ From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond@skippinet.com.au] Sent: 29 May 2008 09:20 To: OConchubhair, Andoni; spambayes(a)python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Running filter.py The instructions you read were for running from source code. Instead, you can select "Filter Messages..." from the Spambayes toolbar dropdown. Cheers, Mark From: spambayes-bounces(a)python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of OConchubhair, Andoni Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 2:31 AM To: spambayes(a)python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Running filter.py Hi, I am using SpamBayes in Outlook as a plugin. I don't have any python.exe file but instead only some .dll files: outlook_addin.dll python23.dll and two outlook_addin_register.exe and outlook_dump_props.exe files. I'm running windows. I didn't install this so the installer my have deleted it if it is not necessary to run but I would have thought that deleting it would have killed python no? Therefore I don't see where I can run the filter.py file to force the filter in my plugin to run, can somebody please advise? Thank you, Andoni.

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Re: [Spambayes] Running filter.py
by OConchubhair, Andoni May 29, 2008

May 29, 2008

Thanks Mark. Unfortunately that doesn't solve my problem. I need to be able to click that button using a Windows batch file (a .cmd file). So I was hoping I could do a call to some python program which would have the same effect as clicking that button. Can I run filter.py from the command line in some way to do this? Thanks, Andoni. _____ From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond@skippinet.com.au] Sent: 29 May 2008 09:20 To: OConchubhair, Andoni; spambayes(a)python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Running filter.py The instructions you read were for running from source code. Instead, you can select "Filter Messages..." from the Spambayes toolbar dropdown. Cheers, Mark From: spambayes-bounces(a)python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of OConchubhair, Andoni Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 2:31 AM To: spambayes(a)python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Running filter.py Hi, I am using SpamBayes in Outlook as a plugin. I don't have any python.exe file but instead only some .dll files: outlook_addin.dll python23.dll and two outlook_addin_register.exe and outlook_dump_props.exe files. I'm running windows. I didn't install this so the installer my have deleted it if it is not necessary to run but I would have thought that deleting it would have killed python no? Therefore I don't see where I can run the filter.py file to force the filter in my plugin to run, can somebody please advise? Thank you, Andoni.

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Running filter.py
by OConchubhair, Andoni May 29, 2008

May 29, 2008

Hi, I am using SpamBayes in Outlook as a plugin. I don't have any python.exe file but instead only some .dll files: outlook_addin.dll python23.dll and two outlook_addin_register.exe and outlook_dump_props.exe files. I'm running windows. I didn't install this so the installer my have deleted it if it is not necessary to run but I would have thought that deleting it would have killed python no? Therefore I don't see where I can run the filter.py file to force the filter in my plugin to run, can somebody please advise? Thank you, Andoni.

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1031 Spam, 461 Good, Processed ZERO
by S-B May 26, 2008

May 26, 2008

SpamBayes has been running for about a month and has processed zero messages. I have trained it multiple times on both good and junk mail folders. I'm using Outlook 2002 SP3. Please tell me what I should do. Thanks, S-B Please see these screenshots of my SpamBayes configuration: http://members.dslextreme.com/users/emailshere/SpamBayesTabs.jpg Log File: Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 1031 spam and 461 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-Mail' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-Mail' -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/1031-Spam%2C-461-Good%2C-Processed-ZERO-tp17480343p17… Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Spam: 1031; Good: 461; Processed: 0
by emailshere May 26, 2008

May 26, 2008

SpamBayes has been running for exactly a month and has processed zero messages. I have trained it many times on both good and junk mail folders (not my Deleted Items folder). I also tried rebuilding the database. I'm using Outlook 2002 SP3. Please tell me what I should do. Thanks, SB Screenshots of my SpamBayes configuration: http://members.dslextreme.com/users/emailshere/SpamBayesTabs.jpg Log File: Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 1031 spam and 461 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-Mail' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-Mail'

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I can't figure out what to do?
by Pat Harbaugh May 25, 2008

May 25, 2008

Windows MS WIN Prof. version 5.1 copy 1981-2001 Spam bays 1.0.4 (March 2005) That's what I know- I wanted to empty the "maybe spam" folder and when I did --it said to check with SPAM BAYES because I needed to ____? Not sure of what it said. So now what happens or what should I change Thank you for any help, I can call you (my dime) or email whenever you have time Pattie

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