I think you've gotten too cute for your clientele. Spambayes setup is already confusing enough without the arbitrary enforcement of the developers' undocumented notions of best practice. If you think training on the "sent" folder is a bad idea, say so in the installation instructions; but don't incorporate another unexpected restriction. Bob
-----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 5:08 PM To: 'Keith Haarhoff'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin
When configuring it, it does not "see" my Sent items folder in Personal Folders, though it can see the corresponding folder in Archive. Can you explain this?
There is a rough consensus that it's not appropriate to train on mail you have sent yourself (because you don't filter mail that you receive yourself, and so you would end up generating invalid clues). This is deliberate. If you move the messages into some other archive folder, then SpamBayes can't figure out that's what you've done, so will let you use that folder. However, any messages that SpamBayes 'thinks' haven't been received by you (i.e. all sent mail) will not be filterable.
[Coe, Bob]
I think you've gotten too cute for your clientele. Spambayes setup is already confusing enough without the arbitrary enforcement of the developers' undocumented notions of best practice. If you think training on the "sent" folder is a bad idea, say so in the installation instructions; but don't incorporate another unexpected restriction.
Except it's not arbitrary. Highlight a message in your Sent Items folder and try to get the spam clues. You should be rewarded with an error box saying that no filterable mail items are selected. That's not an arbitrary decision on our part, it's that *Outlook* doesn't create enough MAPI properties for items *it* puts in Sent Items to allow us to score one of those beasts. One way or another, that quirk of Outlook is going to get reflected in what we can do; the "unexpected restriction" is due to Outlook's special-case treatment of Sent Items. That said, we'd be more consistent if we also hid (e.g.) Contacts and Journal, and for the same reason: right or wrong, the way Outlook treats these special predefined folders, they don't contain any filterable items either (at least not when used as Outlook uses them).
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