David> Hi Skip, tghanks for all your help. Looks like damned if you do David> and damned if you don't. If I take of AVG, I'm left without David> anti-virus and if I leave it on, it's going to interfere with the David> "points rating". No easy solution, so I'll just have to do what David> you say and keep marking the rubbish as such!! No, the easy solution is to continue training unsures and mistakes (only!) until the AVG tokens no longer matter. SpamBayes will choose other tokens which indicate he nature of the email. In this particular case, if those 10 clues are ignored my guess is all the skip:* clues will dominate and it will be regarded as spam. If you (or anyone else) are at all interested in understanding a bit about how SpamBayes work you might want to read the background reading page: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/background.html and the stuff it links to. It's really quite elegant at the core. -- Skip Montanaro - skip@pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/