There's a discussion forum associated with Grayson's book on 'Python and Tkinter Programming' over at Manning Books: http://www.manning-sandbox.com/forum.jspa?forumID=51&start=0 However, when I took a look at the discussion items, I don't see anything posted by Grayson himself in well over a year. Has he given up his involvement with Tkinter? If so, does this mean that there'll never be a 2nd edition of his book? Maybe we should encourage readers of that book to come to this discussion list instead. cheers S