I had been trying to straighten out the model for the split since my first post to twisted-web regarding it. Now that radix, and exarkun have split twisted.news out of the core codebase as "lowdown". Since then I have begun work on my own source tree of twisted.web, the module has been split as "unwound" which is my proposed name as mentioned in the numerous naming threads (to be installed as tmlabs.unwound if desired.) So far I've done the following: * duplicate the source tree renaming the toplevel module and changing the imports accordingly. * run the tests (everything passes just as it does in twisted.web) * removed modules that were deprecated BY woven, and added a Deprecation Warning message to unwound.woven.__init__ If there are no complaints about this I'm asking someone (like radix) to help me complete the rest of the steps necessary to make this the official split so i can start working on changes and enhancements. The things I can't do on my own, atleast not as part of twistedmatrix.com is setup the SVN repo and the project page. Also it appears if radix and exarkun did not solve (or atleast did not implmenet a solution for) the tap naming conflicts. I.E. if lowdown or tmlabs.lowdown is going to use mktap news or mktap lowdown instead. Other than that, Unwound is currently a useable tree of twisted.web At revision 10601. (I'm open to changing the name to either tmlabs.web or some cute/catchy name other than 'unwound', but ultimately I think that is a policy decision that falls on the core twisted devs.) -- David Reid Claim to fame: "I actually wrote code that used twisted.web.webwidgets!"