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Thanks for the clarification! -martin -----Original Message----- From: twisted-web-bounces@twistedmatrix.com [mailto:twisted-web-bounces@twistedmatrix.com] On Behalf Of glyph@divmod.com Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:04 PM To: Twisted Web World Subject: Re: [Twisted-web] some questions about twisted.web On 7 Apr, 07:47 pm, jack@chesspark.com wrote:
You can pass arbitrary command line options by writing a plugin. http://twistedmatrix.com/projects/core/documentation/howto/tap.html
Which, as I recall, Glyph and others have discourged others from doing this. Perhaps I am mistaken, but if twistd is intended for this purpose, why has this not become part of it all along?
Chris has already basically set the record straight here, but for future readers I just wanted to have a direct reply to this message and clear up a very unfortunate choice of acronyms. Some of this is a summary of other things that have already been mentioned in this thread. I definitely do not discourage the use of twistd for this purpose :). In fact I strongly recommend it. Here's the history. ".tap" ("Twisted Application Pickle") files, and the associated "mktap" ("make twisted application pickle") command-line utility, are strongly discouraged. They've been deprecated for a long time, and they'll be gone soon. "TAPs" ("Twisted Application *Plugins*") were originally plugins for "mktap". That's why the naming is similar. However, *they are now plugins for twistd*, and have been for some time. Developers are strongly encouraged to use this interface, and to read the document linked above. Before "TAPs" were plugins for twistd, the suggested configuration mechanism for twisted applications was to write a '.tac' file and tell your users to edit it. Processing twistd's commandline arguments at this point was impossible without gratuitous hacks, so tac files were a better alternative. However, as Jack noted, editing tac files is inconvenient, so we added the twistd plugin interface. We now recommend that adding command-line arguments to your 'twistd' plugin is the way to go if you want run-time configuration for your twisted server application. The technique that Chris suggested elsewhere in this thread, to set up correct command-line arguments for your plugin and then call twistd's run() function, is the currently supported way to invoke twistd's functionality from your own scripts. This is what we use to support Divmod's "axiomatic" command, which is basically a database-configured version of "twistd". A more expressive API for a wider variety of use- cases is forthcoming, but this technique should still work even once such an API has been added. The document in question would really benefit from some updating; in particular, it would be good to move the mention of TAP files to some kind of endnote rather than being mentioned before the actual relevant features. _______________________________________________ Twisted-web mailing list Twisted-web@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-web