I admit I never stepped forward doing even review on work on twisted being usually overly busy with maintaining the usual mayhem of HTML, CSS, JScript and Python in my projects. Now with nevow/athena and qooxdoo merged I might have some spare time not having written a single line of HTML or CSS in the last six months and still producing a stream of really advanced and great looking RIA stuff with precision and ease. The lessons I learned again from merging nevow/qooxdoo 1. the productivity breakthru in writing RIAs comes from shedding HTML and CSS altogether and in concentrating to two full blown programming languages (read Javascript, the good parts - Douglas Crockford) 2. one might even push the above said further by concentrating to one language only by using JScript on the server too, although node.js has a long way to go 3. divmod/nevow does a prime job in bringing an 'as pythonuesque' way as possible to JScript, meaning point 2. is mute, because the server side with twisted is really outstanding and is a beacon among the server programming frameworks 4. it might be nice to have 'whip it up fast' templates and tools but in the end it's the 'finish it faster and maintain it with less work' attributes which let's you make a living. It's always worthwile to invest into something as big and all encompassing as twisted even in a time where the general attitude is 'take this, add hot water and stir it'. Although it might have been said a hundred times already, but how do I do that intimidating step to become a reviewer in the twisted community? Werner