These are some of the names that were thrown around the other day during a discussion #twisted.web about naming the split. Some are dependent on it being installed under the twisted namespace... since radix has said that is a no go, I'm going to omit the "twisted." and see how they stand on their own. unwound stem qem newvo labryinth charlotte weevil ferret eighty spider lattice matrix trellis kudzu arachnid assassin wev weever vewon world waffle Yeah ok and there were a lot more completely stupid names thrown around. If my opinion matters any I like: unwound, charlotte, and eighty. --David
Another nominee: "brane" (From string theory) A brane can be thought of as a 3+1 dimensional spacetime slice of an 11-dimensional universe, much as the web is a kind of limited (http) slice thru the many-protocoled universe of the internet. ;)
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 01:53:14AM -0400, Stephen Waterbury wrote:
Another nominee: "brane"
(From string theory) A brane can be thought of as a 3+1 dimensional spacetime slice of an 11-dimensional universe, much as the web is a kind of limited (http) slice thru the many-protocoled universe of the internet. ;)
One of my name requirements is that I must be able to say its name, even out of context, without having to spell it. "The web application is backed by brane, thats brane spelt B R A N E." is icky. Stephen
Stephen Thorne wrote:
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 01:53:14AM -0400, Stephen Waterbury wrote:
Another nominee: "brane"
(From string theory) A brane can be thought of as a 3+1 dimensional spacetime slice of an 11-dimensional universe, much as the web is a kind of limited (http) slice thru the many-protocoled universe of the internet. ;)
One of my name requirements is that I must be able to say its name, even out of context, without having to spell it.
"The web application is backed by brane, thats brane spelt B R A N E." is icky.
Heh ... I kind of liked the pun ambiguity. But I was mostly kidding, anyway. Nobody but really *extreme* geeks would get it. Like moi. :) And it *would* be icky.
David Reid wrote:
These are some of the names that were thrown around the other day during a discussion #twisted.web about naming the split. Some are dependent on it being installed under the twisted namespace... since radix has said that is a no go, I'm going to omit the "twisted." and see how they stand on their own.
I am a boring fart and I always though that names should be as explicit as possible. Am I right to think that all the code will be related to applications using twisted ? In that case something like twistedapp (please do not take that name as the ultimate recommendation) would make more sense. As well I would saws that the organization should be like twistedapp.news.lowdown twistedapp.web.nevow [...] So the protocol is obvious from the module name and it is easy to add more application of the same protocol without any name clash. At that point it is clear that nevow is a web application, even if the name itself does not give the information away. Thomas
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 01:19, David Reid wrote:
unwound ... waffle
How about "UnwoundWaffle"?
from UnwoundWaffle.nevow import freeparking
No, that's just _too_ weird. I think all the cute names for web-related projects have been taken already. I don't think something like "silk", "tapestry", or "donut" will do here. (I'd be interested to hear the rationale behind "eighty", because it's so odd, it might just work.) In a way, I'd prefer TwistedWeb (caps included, to avoid confusion), if only because it's straightforward, recognizable, and won't require an explanation every time someone new joins the IRC channel. Of course, if anyone thinks they've seen a great name for the project, or have one that hasn't been mentioned yet, feel free to prove me wrong. I'm flexible. :) -- Alex Levy WWW: http://mesozoic.geecs.org/ "Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right." -- Salvor Hardin, Isaac Asimov's _Foundation_
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 06:19, David Reid wrote:
These are some of the names that were thrown around the other day during a discussion #twisted.web about naming the split. Some are dependent on it being installed under the twisted namespace... since radix has said that is a no go, I'm going to omit the "twisted." and see how they stand on their own.
unwound stem qem newvo labryinth charlotte weevil ferret eighty spider lattice matrix trellis kudzu arachnid assassin wev weever vewon world waffle
From the above I like:
unwound charlotte (but probably a bit whimisical to many people) Some other ideas: firestarter (obligatory music reference) silk sticky tangled warp widow (perhaps a little negative ;-)) I think something short and snappy is best. Try typing the package name a few times to test. I find 'unwound' easy to type but I'm not so sure about 'charlotte'. Cheers, Matt -- Matt Goodall, Pollenation Internet Ltd w: http://www.pollenation.net e: matt@pollenation.net Any views expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer.
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 06:19, David Reid wrote:
These are some of the names that were thrown around the other day during a discussion #twisted.web about naming the split. Some are dependent on it being installed under the twisted namespace... since radix has said that is a no go, I'm going to omit the "twisted." and see how they stand on their own.
unwound stem qem newvo labryinth charlotte weevil ferret eighty spider lattice matrix trellis kudzu arachnid assassin wev weever vewon world waffle
From the above I like:
unwound charlotte (but probably a bit whimisical to many people) Some other ideas: firestarter (obligatory music reference) silk sticky tangled warp widow (perhaps a little negative ;-)) I think something short and snappy is best. Try typing the package name a few times to test. I find 'unwound' easy to type but I'm not so sure about 'charlotte'. Cheers, Matt -- Matt Goodall, Pollenation Internet Ltd w: http://www.pollenation.net e: matt@pollenation.net Any views expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer.
Thomas Mangin wrote:
I am a boring fart and I always though that names should be as explicit as possible.
I find high level unusual names tend to be more explicit than conventional names as they avoid clashing with heavily overloaded terms. Compare: 'How are you getting on with that refactor of news/web/docs/ssh/callback?' with 'How are you getting on with that refactor of lowdown/<cool name>/lore/conch/deferred?' It helps projects and key concepts take on easily relatable personalities. Andy. (used http://www.developer.com/net/article.php/1464751 for a more conventional term for deferred ..)
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 10:34, Andy Gayton wrote:
Thomas Mangin wrote:
I am a boring fart and I always though that names should be as explicit as possible.
I find high level unusual names tend to be more explicit than conventional names as they avoid clashing with heavily overloaded terms.
Compare:
'How are you getting on with that refactor of news/web/docs/ssh/callback?'
with
'How are you getting on with that refactor of lowdown/<cool name>/lore/conch/deferred?'
It helps projects and key concepts take on easily relatable personalities.
It also helps when searching for information on the internet. "twisted web" is gonna get lots of results. "twisted unwound", "twisted charlotte", etc will give much better results. Cheers, Matt -- Matt Goodall, Pollenation Internet Ltd w: http://www.pollenation.net e: matt@pollenation.net Any views expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 10:01:21AM +0100, Matt Goodall wrote:
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 06:19, David Reid wrote:
These are some of the names that were thrown around the other day during a discussion #twisted.web about naming the split. Some are dependent on it being installed under the twisted namespace... since radix has said that is a no go, I'm going to omit the "twisted." and see how they stand on their own.
unwound stem qem newvo labryinth charlotte weevil ferret eighty spider lattice matrix trellis kudzu arachnid assassin wev weever vewon world waffle
From the above I like:
unwound charlotte (but probably a bit whimisical to many people)
Some other ideas:
firestarter (obligatory music reference) silk sticky tangled warp widow (perhaps a little negative ;-))
I think something short and snappy is best. Try typing the package name a few times to test. I find 'unwound' easy to type but I'm not so sure about 'charlotte'.
Cheers, Matt -- Matt Goodall, Pollenation Internet Ltd w: http://www.pollenation.net e: matt@pollenation.net
Any views expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer.
If you used dvorak, all of those would be easy to type :-) I think any name chosen should not be common word, because it makes finding information on that thing very hard. For example, compare google searches for "nevow" and "woven". That said, here are three methods for making such names: - acronyms. BORING! - concatenating two words. works, but must be creative, so don't look at me :) - making your own words. Pretty hard to do, so I wrote a small program to make some ideas. Let's see if anyone can figure out how I did it: liaweb deliaweb gniliaweb sliaweb eraweb deraweb seraweb gniraweb redliweb deredliweb gniredliweb tnemredliweb s'tnemredliweb sredliweb hctiweb dehctiweb sehctiweb gnihctiweb Of course, some of these could be tweaked to be more pronouncable. I like "eraweb" or "seraweb" personally. I'm kinda bummed that they all end in "web" though - perhaps someone can devise a better procedure for generating ideas. Another idea, why not put all these ideas on a webpage, and allow people to mark and submit suggestions. I'm sure it will lead to no consensus, but it should at least narrow the possibilities. I'm willing to write it, if it's a worthwhile idea.
On Tuesday 20 April 2004 00:19, David Reid wrote:
These are some of the names that were thrown around the other day during a discussion #twisted.web about naming the split. Some are dependent on it being installed under the twisted namespace... since radix has said that is a no go, I'm going to omit the "twisted." and see how they stand on their own.
[ ... ] labryinth [ ... ]
I would suggest that ANY name given be run through a spellchecker first, and
if it was misspelled, to discard the name since it would be too easy for too
many people to misspell it. :)
--
Matthew Scott
There's a german band called The Notwist, which made me think of the "Notwisted". And then I thought of bad unix naming conventions from acronyms, like Tinta -> "This Is Not Twisted Anymore" You can always use names that lead to funny/weird sentences for people with the mind of a 12yr old. >Compare >'How are you getting on with that refactor of news/web/docs/ssh/callback?' >with >'How are you getting on with that refactor of lowdown/<cool name>/lore/conch/deferred?' If you called it "Uranus" then the conversation would start off: 'How are you getting on with that refactor of uranus?' Just a thought. A bad one, but a though. On Apr 20, 2004, at 1:19 AM, David Reid wrote:
These are some of the names that were thrown around the other day during a discussion #twisted.web about naming the split. Some are dependent on it being installed under the twisted namespace... since radix has said that is a no go, I'm going to omit the "twisted." and see how they stand on their own.
unwound stem qem newvo labryinth charlotte weevil ferret eighty spider lattice matrix trellis kudzu arachnid assassin wev weever vewon world waffle
Yeah ok and there were a lot more completely stupid names thrown around. If my opinion matters any I like: unwound, charlotte, and eighty.
--David
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David Reid wrote:
unwound stem qem newvo labryinth charlotte weevil ferret eighty spider lattice matrix trellis kudzu arachnid assassin wev weever vewon world waffle
I like weever and weaver, but also unwound is good. What about: vowel? :) -- Valentino Volonghi aka Dialtone Linux User #310274, Gentoo Proud User Blog: http://vvolonghi.blogspot.com Home Page: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/dialtone/
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