Status of forms, potential debianization
Hi. I'm starting to use forms for real, and anything I do in production needs a deb ;) Is forms stable (=unchanging) enough to give to the masses? I'm a bit worried that some may complain that forms (well, pythonX.Y-forms) is a bit too generic as a name, but we'll see..
Tommi Virtanen wrote:
Hi. I'm starting to use forms for real, and anything I do in production needs a deb ;)
Weirdo ;-).
Is forms stable (=unchanging) enough to give to the masses?
I don't expect its external API to change much but I wouldn't like to call it stable yet either. In particular, Forms needs to support custom templates and I really haven't given that problem enough thought to know if it will break anything. It's probably stable enough, I guess. Nothing much has changed on the outside for some time now.
I'm a bit worried that some may complain that forms (well, pythonX.Y-forms) is a bit too generic as a name, but we'll see..
Yeah, I regret not thinking of a better name now. Now would be a good time to rename it, if it really needs to change. - Matt
Matt Goodall wrote:
Yeah, I regret not thinking of a better name now. Now would be a good time to rename it, if it really needs to change.
Good to you hear you think that's still possible. I'd really like to see that done before it gets any more widely deployed. Maybe "formal"? Or "uniform"?
Good to you hear you think that's still possible. I'd really like to see that done before it gets any more widely deployed.
Maybe "formal"?
Or "uniform"?
Or "formule", for "form mule"? :-) -- Nicola Larosa - http://www.tekNico.net/ ...I do no real world applications like triple mersenne first person shooters, only business software like the one which in earlier time was written in COBOL or carved into cave walls. Less challenge, higher reward. -- Harald Armin Massa, November 2005
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Good to you hear you think that's still possible. I'd really like to see that done before it gets any more widely deployed.
Maybe "formal"?
Or "uniform"?
Or "formule", for "form mule"? :-)
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I think this would be a good opportunity for the Twisted project to show some maturity and use a name that is actually descriptive rather than "cute." Anything wrong with something that simply informs potential users of what the package is all about, like (gasp!) twisted.web.forms? Best regards, Ed Suominen Cory Dodt wrote:
dict.org to the rescue!
REFORM CHLOROFORM FORMIDIBLE
or my current favorite: aeriform adj 1: resembling air or having the form of air [syn: airlike] 2: characterized by lightness and insubstantiality; as impalpable or intangible as air; "figures light and aeriform come unlooked for and melt away"- Thomas Carlyle; "aerial fancies"; "an airy apparition"; "physical rather than ethereal forms" [syn: aerial, airy, aery, ethereal]
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Nicola Larosa wrote:
Good to you hear you think that's still possible. I'd really like to see that done before it gets any more widely deployed.
Maybe "formal"?
Or "uniform"?
Or "formule", for "form mule"? :-)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ed, a) MG's forms library is not part of Twisted, it is a separate project. We cannot name it twisted.web.forms, and any name it does get reflects solely on MG and his organization, if it reflects on anything at all. b) Even if it were in Twisted, "silly" memorable names are important to the popularity and even the usability of a project. Googling for "forms" will turn up a hell of a lot of unrelated stuff before it turns up this project, and talking about "forms" will probably result in a lot of confusion. Coming up with a more unique name for it is, in fact, so important that the Twisted coding standard explicitly provides an exception for the practice in the very first paragraph: http://twistedmatrix.com/projects/core/documentation/howto/policy/coding-sta... Coming up with names from a thesaurus and a dictionary is current best practice, not a sign of immaturity. C Ed Suominen wrote:
I think this would be a good opportunity for the Twisted project to show some maturity and use a name that is actually descriptive rather than "cute." Anything wrong with something that simply informs potential users of what the package is all about, like (gasp!) twisted.web.forms?
Best regards, Ed Suominen
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On Feb 21, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Ed Suominen wrote:
I think this would be a good opportunity for the Twisted project to show some maturity and use a name that is actually descriptive rather than "cute." Anything wrong with something that simply informs potential users of what the package is all about, like (gasp!) twisted.web.forms?
The name twisted.web.forms would be completely inappropriate unless the forms package becomes a twisted project rather than a third party project by mg. Any other suggestions? James
On Tue February 21 2006 12:04, Cory Dodt wrote:
REFORM CHLOROFORM FORMIDIBLE
or my current favorite: aeriform
"formwork", "morphe", "boviform" (because cows are funny), "pythoniform" (hey, it's in /usr/share/dict/words...), "postform" (Web-two-point-oh-ey, also a bit of double-meaning), "variform", "versiform", "overformed" ( :-) ), "conform" (and of course, "nonconformist"), "deformity", "Sphenisciformes" (the order penguins belong to), "correct form", "form-of-a-bear!" "inform" and "formulator" are taken. What are we naming, again? Mike.
Maybe "formal"?
Or "uniform"?
Or "formule", for "form mule"? :-)
dict.org to the rescue!
Wow, "dict -S", been using dict for a while, but I had no idea... there's Soundex and even Levenshtein in there?!? $ dict -m -s substring form So, what about "Formyl"? Or "Conformist"? -- Nicola Larosa - http://www.tekNico.net/ Yeah! Another web framework for Python! Now we can proudly say: Python: the only language with more web frameworks than keywords. -- Harald A. Massa, December 2005
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