Another thing I'd like to get working is combining formal with tabbed pane. What I'd like to get is a formal form shown as a tabbed pane, with either each group represented as page in the tabbed pane, or some other grouping method used to determine which fields belong to which pane. But I'd still like it to have just one submit button that would submit all the fields in all the panes. And, somehow, I'd like it gracefully to degrade to a normal formal grouped form if Javascript isn't available :-) But, I'll take what I can get and hack the rest somehow. -- Naked