Mailman 3 August 2004 - Twisted

Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted O'Reilly Book
by Sergio Trejo Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

>From: James Y Knight <foom(a)fuhm.net> >Reply-To: Twisted general discussion <twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com> >To: Twisted general discussion <twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com> >Subject: Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted O'Reilly Book >Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 11:08:24 -0400 > > >On Aug 2, 2004, at 5:02 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > >>On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 09:38:51PM -0700, Jasper Phillips wrote: >> >>>It's true that there are alot … [View More]

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Re: [Twisted-Python] Optional packages for Conch (on OS X)
by Sergio Trejo Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

>I'm 95% sure that PyPAM and 100% sure that pyshadow aren't at all >applicable to OS X. Have not tried gmpy, but it looks like it's in >DarwinPorts; http://py-gmpy.darwinports.com/ > >-bob Thanks Bob for the heads up. I wasn't aware that the two aforementioned aren't applicable to OS X. I did try gmpy based on gmp 4 that I had pulled down via Fink, but gmpy make files were not happy. I guess all three are not needed for conch on OS X so I'll give conch a whirl with just … [View More]

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Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted O'Reilly Book
by Sergio Trejo Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

A foundation is a great idea. If Apache can do it, Twisted can do it! >From: Matt Goodall <matt(a)pollenation.net> >Reply-To: Twisted general discussion <twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com> >To: radix(a)twistedmatrix.com,Twisted general discussion ><twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com> >Subject: Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted O'Reilly Book >Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:37:41 +0100 > >On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 10:29, Christopher Armstrong wrote: > > On Mon,… [View More]

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Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted O'Reilly Book
by Sergio Trejo Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

>From: Stephen Waterbury <golux(a)comcast.net> >Reply-To: Twisted general discussion <twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com> >To: Twisted general discussion <twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com> >Subject: Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted O'Reilly Book >Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 23:58:21 -0400 > >Sergio Trejo wrote: > >>... the First Edition Twisted O'Reilly book (with Ghost Knife Fish as the >>animal on the front cover :) ... > >+1 on Ghost … [View More]

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Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted O'Reilly Book
by Sergio Trejo Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

>From: Mary Gardiner <mary-twisted(a)puzzling.org> >Reply-To: Twisted general discussion <twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com> >To: twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com >Subject: Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted O'Reilly Book >Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:24:37 +1000 > >On Sun, Aug 01, 2004, Sergio Trejo wrote: > > Thus, a book should be looked at as an investment with future returns > > beyond merely what the publisher and authors earn on cash flows from > … [View More]> the cash registers of Amazon, Borders, Barnes and Noble, et al. Come > > on, lets have some future vision. > >All I intended to say was that anyone writing such a book would need to >be able to pay rent during its production. This is likely to be the case >even if they are gifted with future vision. > >I can't speak for the people you named of course, it may be the case >that they are able to fund (or be funded) for the writing period, >assuming they wish to do so. > >-Mary Mary, this an excellent question. I don't know the answer. I looked at Glyph's blog post again and he said that Alex Martelli was the person who nudged him about a book at OSCON a few days ago. Glyph says that Alex is an author of other O'Reilly books, so Alex knows the answers to these questions about funding the First Edition Twisted O'Reilly book (with Ghost Knife Fish as the animal on the front cover :) I found Alex's email address in the Twisted Matrix and cc'ed him because I think its a good time to rally around the genesis of the book. Really, the time has come. The people at OSAF have made a decision to use Twisted for Chandler. I think this is HUGE. The father of Lotus Notes and his team doesn't make decisions haphazardly. I'll bet even they would love to see a book come out on Twisted by O'Reilly. Any comments Brian? Thanks Britt and Liming for your comments today and sharing your experiences as a beginner. I just got started myself about a month ago. I'd also love to see animated diagrams using SVG and SMIL to show the *flow* of async aspects and abstracts associated with Twisted applications. Glyph, you asked us to write you < http://www.livejournal.com/users/glyf/22637.html > , so I am doing as you requested! Calling on Glyph, calling on Itamar, calling on Radix, calling on JP, et al!!!! Serg _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail [View Less]

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[Twisted-Python] Twisted O'Reilly Book
by Sergio Trejo Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

I saw Glyph's blog the other day about OSCON and a suggestion by someone attending OSCON to write a book about Twisted. I think it would be really sweet if there existed an O'Reilly book for Twisted. I think the great people who started and contributed to Twisted deserve a standalone book, and I think it would be great for bringing more people into the Twisted community. It was only a few months ago at the end of May that OSAF announced that they're using Twisted (and I think a lot of … [View More]people have respect for OSAF and Mitch Kapor, the father of Lotus Notes): http://wiki.osafoundation.org/twiki/bin/view/Chandler/TwistedHome What are the requirements for writing a book (besides time)? For the front cover of of the Twisted O'Reilly book, I would like to propose that the animal chosen be the Black Ghost Knife fish which is found in the mysteryious depths of the Amazon region in South America. These fish are amazing creatures. They can be trained to take food from the hand of a human and the natives in South America treat these fish with respect. They also have an electrical sensory system which helps them find food at night and in murky waters. They also have a long undulating bottom find that they use to swim forward and backward very rapidly and with precision. Here are some photos and links: http://www.fmnh.org/research_collections/ecp/ecp_sites/Parker_Gentry/images… How about it? Serg >From: Jp Calderone <exarkun(a)divmod.com> >Reply-To: Twisted general discussion <twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com> >To: Twisted general discussion <twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com> >Subject: Re: [Twisted-Python] Beginners Guide to Twisted Anywhere? >Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 15:49:19 -0400 > >Britt Green wrote: >>I'm wondering if there exists a beginners guide to using Twisted. >>Something similar to the online tutorial for Python. I've browsed the >>docs on the Twisted website, and haven't been able to find what I'm >>looking for. Specifically, a lot of the examples are mostly just code >>with brief commentary which doesn't really explain things. >> >>Can someone help me out! :) > > You may be interested in the finger tutorial: > > http://twistedmatrix.com/documents/howto/tutorial/index > > Jp > >_______________________________________________ >Twisted-Python mailing list >Twisted-Python(a)twistedmatrix.com >http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail [View Less]

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[Twisted-Python] Optional packages for Conch (on OS X)
by Sergio Trejo Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

Has anyone (Bob ippolito?) successfully built the optional packages for Conch on Mac OS X? I run into Makefile problems when trying to build gmpy, PyPAM and pyshadow. The MacPython package manager < http://undefined.org/python/pimp/ > which is referred to by Twisted for OS X doesn't include the optional packages. The non-optional package (pycrypto) builds and installs just fine on OS X 10.3.4 Serg _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps … [View More]

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[Twisted-Python] nevow Examples 2004 - example1 not work
by Alessandro Barchi Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

Hi, I try to use (and above all) understanding this framework. I've a debian stable base installation, this are the package installed: ii python2.3 2.3.4-5 An interactive high-level object-oriented la ii python2.3-nevo 0.2.0-2 Web application templating system for Python ii python2.3-twis 1.3.0-2 Event-based framework for internet applicati ii python2.3-twis 1.3.0-2 Event-based framework for internet applicati I dowloaded NevowExamples_2004.zip when try … [View More]the example1 i have this error: ******************************************** mail:/home/alex/nevow_samples/Example1# twistd -noy sched.tac 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] Log opened. 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] twistd 1.3.0rc1 (/usr/bin/python2.3 2.3.4) starting up 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] reactor class: twisted.internet.default.SelectReactor 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] Loading sched.tac... 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] Traceback (most recent call last): 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/twisted/application/app.py", line 118, in getApplication 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] application = service.loadApplication(filename, style, passphrase) 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/twisted/application/service.py", line 319, in loadApplication 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] application = sob.loadValueFromFile(filename, 'application', passphrase) 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/twisted/persisted/sob.py", line 213, in loadValueFromFile 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] exec data in d, d 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] File "<string>", line 3, in ? 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] ImportError: No module named schedule 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] Failed to load application: No module named schedule 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/twistd", line 36, in ? run() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/twisted/scripts/twistd.py", line 184, in run app.run(runApp, ServerOptions) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/twisted/application/app.py", line 205, in run runApp(config) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/twisted/scripts/twistd.py", line 174, in runApp application = app.getApplication(config, passphrase) --- <exception caught here> --- File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/twisted/application/app.py", line 118, in getApplication application = service.loadApplication(filename, style, passphrase) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/twisted/application/service.py", line 319, in loadApplication application = sob.loadValueFromFile(filename, 'application', passphrase) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/twisted/persisted/sob.py", line 213, in loadValueFromFile exec data in d, d File "<string>", line 3, in ? exceptions.ImportError: No module named schedule Failed to load application: No module named schedule 2004/08/02 15:29 CEST [-] ******************************************** where I wrong?? Bye A. Barchi barchi(a)roggeroetortia.it barchi(a)roggeroetortia.it Poligrafico_Roggero_&_Tortia S.p.A. ------------------------------------------ Via Frejus 5 - 10092 Beinasco TO Italy Tel. +390113499222 - Fax +39 0113498866 [View Less]

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[Twisted-Python] Introduction to Twisted
by Ken Whitesell Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

Britt, I too am new to Twisted, and am climbing the same learning curve. I may or may not be able to help you with your specific questions. (I've only been using Twisted for a month.) But I can share some thoughts on the subject. First, the most helpful thing to me was actually printing the book.pdf file in the howto directory. There _is_ something special about having a physical copy to flip through at odd times when I'm not sitting at the computer. I personally find that for … [View More]

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Re: [Twisted-Python] Beginners Guide to Twisted Anywhere?
by Sergio Trejo Aug. 1, 2004

Aug. 1, 2004

Britt, Your sentiments are another reminder as to why a book would be welcome! Serg >From: Britt Green <seamonkeys(a)gmail.com> >Reply-To: Twisted general discussion <twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com> >To: Twisted general discussion <twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com> >Subject: Re: [Twisted-Python] Beginners Guide to Twisted Anywhere? >Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 14:22:54 -0700 > >You know, I've looked at the finger tutorial a few times. The problem >is … [View More]

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