Mailman 3 February 2010 - Twisted

[Twisted-Python] Twisted Python 0.7.0 Prerelease Testing
by Glyph Lefkowitz Aug. 5, 2021

Aug. 5, 2021

hi there, folks: I'd really like to release 0.7.0 but I would like it to be at least a little bit tested before I do so. Could those of you with CVS trees check everything out and see if it performs as advertised? Deeper bugs than that will have to wait for the next release, but I'd at least like to know if it works for someone other than me. Thanks. ______ __ __ _____ _ _ | ____ | \_/ |_____] |_____| |… [View More]

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[Twisted-Python] regarding xml elements
by Raj kumar Oct. 2, 2013

Oct. 2, 2013

Hi, I have an xml file in my application, I have created an element using Example goes like this......... document.createElement("abc") and i appeneded it by using append() method. But how i can reflect this change to my xml file? and one more thing is i want to create element with some other parameters.... like............. <abc m=" " n=" "> </abc> and i have m and n values as strings with me. can anybody help me to create this element and write it to the existing xml … [View More]

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[Twisted-Python] Get IP of connecting client in XMLRPC server
by Remy C. Cool April 28, 2013

April 28, 2013

Hello, On 18 May 2004, the following message was posted to this mailinglist: Jp Calderone exarkun at divmod.com wrote: >Daniel Newton wrote: > > I have a simple XML-PRC server similar to the example below: > > from twisted.web import xmlrpc, server > > class Example(xmlrpc.XMLRPC): > """An example object to be published.""" > > def xmlrpc_add(self, a, b): > """Return sum of arguments.""" > return a + b def … [View More]

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[Twisted-Python] http.Request and JSON
by Vincent Gulinao Jan. 25, 2012

Jan. 25, 2012

How do you read JSON content from a POST using http.Request. I peeked on args and it's empty. TIA.

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[Twisted-Python] multiple versions of twisted on same machine
by Pet April 27, 2010

April 27, 2010

Hi, I'd like to upgrade twisted to the newest version and obviously first test if my application works fine with new version. What is the best (safest) way to do it? Thanks for help, Pet

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[Twisted-Python] web2 -> web ToDo List
by ssteinerX＠gmail.com March 9, 2010

March 9, 2010

While I see tickets in the tracker for web2 and others for web, I couldn't find a 'cherry pick' list of things to be moved from web2 back into web. Is there one? Thanks, S

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[Twisted-Python] IMAP4 Client extrange behavior
by César García March 4, 2010

March 4, 2010

Hello all, I have this imap4 client http://www.pastebin.com/m4e387f1a most of the code is barrowed from a IRC friend, bob_f , it works fine but as soon as more that 1 email arrrives to the inbox, it only prints the first new messages but not the others, I wonder what am I doing wrong Thanks a lot Here is the code: #!/usr/bin/env python #coding=utf-8 """ Client de IMAP4 que descarga contenido del INBOX de una cuenta en especifico para luego extraer el numero de telefono que debe … [View More]venir en los correos enviados """ import StringIO import sys from Config import retCredentials from twisted.internet.task import LoopingCall from twisted.internet import protocol from twisted.internet import defer from twisted.mail import imap4 from twisted.python import util from twisted.python import log from twisted.internet import reactor debug = 1 class IMAP4Client(imap4.IMAP4Client): def serverGreeting(self,caps): """ Metodo llamado cuando el servidor contesta """ if debug: print "On serverGreeting" self.serverCapabilities = caps if self.greetDeferred is not None: d, self.greetDeferred = self.greetDeferred, None d.addCallback(self.cbLogin) d.callback(self) def cbLogin(self, proto): """ Callback to IMAP login """ if debug: print "On Login" login = self.login(self.factory.username, self.factory.password) login.addCallback(self.startPolling) def startPolling(self, proto): """ Callback to poll every x seconds """ call = LoopingCall(self.selectMailbox,mailbox="INBOX") call.start(20, now=True) def selectMailbox(self, mailbox): """ Select the mailbox to examin """ if debug: print "On selectMailbox" mailbox = self.factory.mailbox return self.select(mailbox).addCallback(self.cbSelectSuccess) def cbSelectSuccess(self, selected): """ Examine the INBOX mailbox for new mails """ if debug: print "On cbSelectSuccess" self.messageCount = selected['EXISTS'] print "Messages: ", self.messageCount unseen = selected['EXISTS'] - selected['RECENT'] if selected['RECENT'] == 0: print "No new messages" return return self.fetchMessage("%s:*" % (unseen) ).addCallback(self.cbProcMessages) def cbProcMessages(self,messages): print messages class IMAP4ClientFactory(protocol.ClientFactory): protocol = IMAP4Client def __init__(self, username, password, onConn): self.username = username self.password = password self.mailbox = 'INBOX' self.onConn = onConn def buildProtocol(self,addr): if debug: print "On buildProtocol" p = self.protocol() p.factory = self p.greetDeferred = self.onConn auth = imap4.CramMD5ClientAuthenticator(self.username) p.registerAuthenticator(auth) return p def clientConectionFailed(self, connector, reason): d, self.onConn = self.onConn, None d.errback(reason) def ebConnection(reason): log.startLogging(sys.stdout) log.err(reason) reactor.stop() PORT = 143 RESULT = "INBOX" def main(): credentials = retCredentials() hostname = credentials['server'] username = credentials['mailbox'] password = util.getPassword('IMAP4 Password: ') onConn = defer.Deferred( ).addErrback(ebConnection ) factory = IMAP4ClientFactory(username, password, onConn) reactor.connectTCP(hostname, PORT, factory) reactor.run() if __name__ == "__main__": main() -- http://celord.blogspot.com/ [View Less]

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[Twisted-Python] debugging a memory leak
by Alec Matusis March 4, 2010

March 4, 2010

I modified a tolerably leaking (about 40MB/day) Twisted server: when the new code was pushed, the memory leak became catastrophic (about 100MB/hr). We could tolerate 40MB/day, but the new code needs to be debugged. First, I reverted to the old version, that is leaking 40MB/day (The leak rate is actually proportional to the number of new connections per second, (which correlates with the CPU utilization of the process): if CPU as measured by $top jumps to >90%, the leak can accelerate to … [View More]50MB/hr) I took two steps to debug the leak: 1) Using guppy/heapy via manhole: >>> hp = hpy() >>> h = hp.heap() >>> h Partition of a set of 1157084 objects. Total size = 140911144 bytes. Index Count % Size % Cumulative % Kind (class / dict of class) 0 785798 68 48463680 34 48463680 34 str 1 7357 1 24660664 18 73124344 52 dict of service.TagSession 2 11735 1 12298280 9 85422624 61 dict of twisted.internet.base.DelayedCall 3 7377 1 7731096 5 93153720 66 dict of twisted.internet.tcp.Server 4 7375 1 7729000 5 100882720 72 dict of protocols.TagProtocol 5 30925 3 7174600 5 108057320 77 __builtin__.set 6 9193 1 6373336 5 114430656 81 dict (no owner) 7 15557 1 3396904 2 117827560 84 list 8 44833 4 3227976 2 121055536 86 types.BuiltinFunctionType 9 38142 3 3051360 2 124106896 88 types.MethodType <328 more rows. Type e.g. '_.more' to view.> Note that the total size of all objects is 140911144 bytes The 1st, 3d and 4th items in this list show the actual number of connected clients. I wait for about 48 hrs, and then execute the same command, and I see approximately the same Total size, of 130MB. So the total size that Heapy sees via the manhole is stable, fluctuating around 140MB. The problem is that the total RSS size of the process visible by the OS is much larger, it is 871680KB = 851MB: $ps -o pid,vsz,rss,sz,size -p 11236 PID VSZ RSS SZ SZ 11236 1303180 871680 325795 1174388 It is this total RSS size that keeps leaking at 40MB per day. As far as I understand, this means that this is not the problem with purely Python code, since Heapy shows that the total size of all Python objects is more or less constant. Is this a correct assumption? 2) So now I turn to valgrind. I am no expert in using valgrind, so what I did was based only on general logic/rough guesses. Since I cannot run this under valgrind on a production machine due to performance reasons, I recompile python on the staging machine: ./configure --enable-shared --without-pymalloc --prefix=/nail/encap/python-2.6.4-valgrind I then follow the instructions in http://svn.python.org/projects/python/trunk/Misc/README.valgrind Then I run twistd process like this: valgrind --tool=memcheck --suppressions=/nail/sys/src/Python-2.6.4/Misc/valgrind-python.supp --leak-check=full --log-file=/tmp/valgrind.log /usr/local/bin/twistd --no_save --reactor=epoll --pidfile=logs/tagserv.pid --logfile=logs/tagserv.log --python=tagserv.py The memory for the process shown by the OS is now 5x normal, and the performance is about 5x worse, since it's running inside valgrind's synthetic CPU. Because this is done on the staging box where I cannot accurately reproduce the real load, the memory leaks from simulated load seen by $ps -o rss are pretty small, about 1 to 10MB. Still, I am interested in finding out what they are. Now I encounter the problems with my understanding of how to use valgrind. This may not be the appropriate list for this, but perhaps someone could recognize the problem. When I start the server, about 240 lines is written to valgrind log file, --log-file=/tmp/valgrind.log When I shut it down, it adds another 100 lines. No matter what I do in between, it always results in the log file with exactly 343 lines. I can have server runs with a leak of 1MB, or with 10MB, but in the end, I get pretty much the same log file. Moreover, when look for all lost memory reports: $grep lost valgrind.log.1 17,352 bytes in 31 blocks are possibly lost in loss record 49 of 62 203,312 bytes in 478 blocks are possibly lost in loss record 57 of 62 definitely lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks. possibly lost: 220,664 bytes in 509 blocks. 64 bytes in 2 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 12 of 63 17,352 bytes in 31 blocks are possibly lost in loss record 50 of 63 203,824 bytes in 479 blocks are possibly lost in loss record 58 of 63 definitely lost: 64 bytes in 2 blocks. possibly lost: 221,176 bytes in 510 blocks. 47 bytes in 1 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 8 of 63 128 bytes in 4 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 16 of 63 584 (104 direct, 480 indirect) bytes in 2 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 26 of 63 1,008 bytes in 6 blocks are definitely lost in loss record 31 of 63 22,296 bytes in 41 blocks are possibly lost in loss record 50 of 63 183,368 bytes in 381 blocks are possibly lost in loss record 59 of 63 definitely lost: 1,287 bytes in 13 blocks. indirectly lost: 480 bytes in 20 blocks. possibly lost: 205,664 bytes in 422 blocks. If I add up all those numbers, I get less than 1MB. How do I track down the 10MB leak? Are there any alternative strategies in finding this leak? [View Less]

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[Twisted-Python] Is AMP secure enough for the internet?
by Attila Nagy March 1, 2010

March 1, 2010

Hello, I'm planning a data collector gateway and wondering whether Twisted's AMP would be good for the task. AMP seems to be a good fit for the job, but I'm not sure about the security. I make the client side too, but I won't operate it, bad guys can take over that side and I want to protect my side. What would I like to do: 1. authenticate and authorize connecting clients with their SSL certificates 2. securely transfer arbitrary (binary and json) data from and to the clients (both the … [View More]

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[Twisted-Python] python3 story?
by K. Richard Pixley March 1, 2010

March 1, 2010

Does twisted have a python3 story? Whatever it is, it should probably be in the release 10 doc and perhaps also on the web site. --rich

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[Twisted-Python] autoincrement in axiom
by code prophecy March 1, 2010

March 1, 2010

Hi, Is there a way to use autoincrement in axiom ? I need a property in my model that reflects the last row id after every insert operation. Also, is it safe to use non-db variables in axiom model ? something like class test1(Item): name = attributes.text() surname = "my non db variable" The interpretor does throw an error but that can be overcome by using self.__dict__['surname'] = "non db" . Just wanted to know if this is recommended or not sorry, if this' already been answered; i … [View More]

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[Twisted-Python] Weekly Bug Summary
by exarkun＠twistedmatrix.com Feb. 28, 2010

Feb. 28, 2010

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[Twisted-Python] Getting factory with AuthenticatingTelnetProtocol
by Skye Feb. 28, 2010

Feb. 28, 2010

Hello, I used the code from this thread to figure out how to use the twisted.conch.telnet.AuthenticatingTelnetProtocol class: http://www.mail-archive.com/twisted-python@twistedmatrix.com/msg01581.html (with the addition of av.state = 'Command' in requestAvatar(), it works great) However, after the handoff to the new protocol MyTelnet, self.factory isn't set. How can I pass along the parent factory from the AuthenticatingTelnetProtocol instance to the StatefulTelnetProtocol instance? … [View More]

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[Twisted-Python] double slash '//' problem in url - authentication with guard.HTTPAuthSessionWrapper
by Ravikant Patil Feb. 26, 2010

Feb. 26, 2010

Hi, I am trying to understand how basic authentication can be used with twisted.web. twistedmatrix provides an example on the same which is reproduced at >> *http://pastebin.com/hE5TFpZT * when I use this example code to login, it works fine but returns with double slash '//' in url before index file or rather for any file accessed. like: >> http://localhost:8889//index.html it will work for all files with double slash >> http://localhost:8889//vision.html but will … [View More]

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[Twisted-Python] Another newbie question... out of file descriptors?
by K. Richard Pixley Feb. 26, 2010

Feb. 26, 2010

Can anyone explain this result to me? It looks to me as though the SelectReactor is leaking file descriptors. Granted, it's a pathological case, but it's not uncommon if you're running a bunch of tests. --rich rich(a)black.noir.com> cat demo.py from twisted.internet.selectreactor import SelectReactor for i in xrange(1024): SelectReactor() rich(a)black.noir.com> python demo.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "demo.py", line 4, in <module> SelectReactor() … [View More]

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[Twisted-Python] multiprocessing capability?
by Darren Govoni Feb. 26, 2010

Feb. 26, 2010

Hi, I looked at the source for the threads module and wondered if the current Twisted supports Python's (2.6) multiprocessing threading? If not, is there a stable package somewhere that patches Twisted to support this? I saw one from last summer but not sure if its stable. Thanks! Darren

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[Twisted-Python] PyCon sprint 2010
by Jonathan Lange Feb. 25, 2010

Feb. 25, 2010

Hey guys, There's a bunch of cool stuff on http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/PyconSprint2010 about what we did at the sprint in PyCon. I want to write this up & blog about it for labs.tm.com, but before I do that, I'd like you to look at that page and tell me if anything is missing -- no matter how small. In particular, if you attended and your name isn't there, I want to hear from you. Thanks, jml

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[Twisted-Python] Please test 10.0.0pre2!
by Jonathan Lange Feb. 25, 2010

Feb. 25, 2010

Hello, We inch ever closer to the precipice of our collective doom. The sun will one day burn cold; all things must end; Twisted shall be released. I've uploaded 10.0.0pre2 tarballs to http://people.canonical.com/~jml/Twisted/. The changes since the pre1 are mostly to do with version numbers in documentation, and rolling back a fix for #3292 that introduced failures on our Fedora test suite. I hope to release the final tarball sometime next week. jml

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[Twisted-Python] Newbie question: Is this possible with twisted?
by Tim Bordemann Feb. 24, 2010

Feb. 24, 2010

Hi, first of all: I've no experience with network-programming yet, but need to go in for creating a "simple" client-server application. In the end I'd like to connect a web-form (django) with a twisted-server, which then should do some long-lasting calculations. So far I got a simple xmlrpc-server, which "defers" the calculation to a new thread and a client which sends the initial request to do the calculation. Though I have the problem that the client stays connected until the calculations … [View More]

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[Twisted-Python] [ANNOUNCE] Twisted 10.0.0pre1 is now released
by Jonathan Lange Feb. 24, 2010

Feb. 24, 2010

Live from PyCon Atlanta, I'm pleased to herald the approaching footsteps of the 10.0 release. Tarballs for the first Twisted 10.0.0 pre-release are now available at: http://people.canonical.com/~jml/Twisted/ This release is the first release ever with the new NEWS building system, which turns out to be utterly fantastic. We're also using this release to actually hammer out a release process. You can find the draft at: http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/ReleaseProcess Please feel free … [View More]

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[Twisted-Python] Reactor events help request ..
by Watson, David Feb. 24, 2010

Feb. 24, 2010

Hi Folks .. I'm not entirely a newbie a python and twisted, but I have come to the point where I need a bit more expertise on this topic, so I am hoping that I have come to the right place .. What I'm hoping, that you folks can help out with a minor problem that I am having with the twistd reactor class and/or the callLater function I have been using a reactor.callLater function to schedule an event that happens in the reactor to send out a heartbeat type message at regular intervals .… [View More]

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Re: [Twisted-Python] Sending jpeg data over TCP/IP
by gary clark Feb. 24, 2010

Feb. 24, 2010

The correct way I think is to use base64 and just one connection after more research. Good to research. Thanks, Garyc --- On Sun, 2/14/10, gary clark <burslem2001(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > From: gary clark <burslem2001(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Twisted-Python] Sending jpeg data over TCP/IP > To: "Twisted general discussion" <twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com> > Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 12:18 PM > > hey Alexandra, > > The only reason why I … [View More]suggested another server would be to > distribute the > load on the system. Essentially the files that are intended > to be sent over will consume alot of processing since .jpeg > etc are humongous. > Yes two connections would be required. Well you could use > the MD5 sum, I will not, essentially your after a unique > identifier that represents the file your sending. What I > intend to do is simply embed the filename and unique > identifier as a header. Hence I do not not need to recompute > the MD5 at the receiving end, which to be honest seems > overkill. > > Anyway good luck. KISS for software is the best approach. > > Thanks, > Garyc > > > --- On Sun, 2/14/10, Alexandre Quessy <alexandre(a)quessy.net> > wrote: > > > From: Alexandre Quessy <alexandre(a)quessy.net> > > Subject: Re: [Twisted-Python] Sending jpeg data over > TCP/IP > > To: "Twisted general discussion" <twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com> > > Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 11:10 AM > > Hello again everyone, > > Maybe using two senders/receivers would help. The > control > > protocol, > > which can use XML or JSON, or whatever, would identify > the > > files by > > their md5 sum? The file transfert protocol would > detect the > > header of > > each file to separate them. > > > > a > > > > gary clark wrote: > > > There are probably several way to accomplish this > I > > just needed to think about it a wee bit longer. One > way > > would be to prepend an identifier to the file,strip > the > > header from the raw data on reception and then save > the > > image. I dont think its complicated. I may need a > seperate > > server to handle the files though. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Garyc > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Maarten ter Huurne <maarten(a)treewalker.org> > > wrote: > > > > > >> From: Maarten ter Huurne <maarten(a)treewalker.org> > > >> Subject: Re: [Twisted-Python] Sending jpeg > data > > over TCP/IP > > >> To: "Twisted general discussion" <twisted-python(a)twistedmatrix.com> > > >> Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 6:07 PM > > >> On Sunday 14 February 2010, Alexandre > > >> Quessy wrote: > > >> > > >>> This said, sending them using a > programmer's > > solution > > >> - not a sysadmin > > >>> solution - would be closer to my own > skills, > > so I am > > >> interested in > > >>> knowing if this could be suitable. I > think, > > though, > > >> that it would be > > >>> faster to use a transfert protocol that > would > > be > > >> implemented in C, not > > >>> Python. Am I wrong? > > >> I would suggest to implement it in Python > first > > and then > > >> benchmark it. Maybe > > >> the simplest implementation is already fast > > enough. Maybe > > >> the bottleneck is > > >> the network or the disk you're writing to; in > that > > case you > > >> would be better > > >> off upgrading your switches or buying an SSD > > instead of > > >> writing C code. > > >> > > >> Bye, > > >> Maarten > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> Twisted-Python mailing list > > >> Twisted-Python(a)twistedmatrix.com > > >> http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Twisted-Python mailing list > > > Twisted-Python(a)twistedmatrix.com > > > http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Twisted-Python mailing list > > Twisted-Python(a)twistedmatrix.com > > http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python > > > [View Less]

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Re: [Twisted-Python] twisted.protocol.sip
by Landreville Feb. 24, 2010

Feb. 24, 2010

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Lorenzo Mainardi <lormayna(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Landreville ha scritto: >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Lorenzo Mainardi <lormayna(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> 2010/2/23 Landreville <landreville(a)deadtreepages.com>: >>> >>>> I'll put it up somewhere so you can see it, >>>> but I'm fairly new at twisted so someone else might say it is the >>>> wrong approach. >>>> >&… [View More]

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Re: [Twisted-Python] twisted.protocol.sip
by Landreville Feb. 23, 2010

Feb. 23, 2010

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Lorenzo Mainardi <lormayna(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2010/2/23 Landreville <landreville(a)deadtreepages.com>: > >> I'll put it up somewhere so you can see it, >> but I'm fairly new at twisted so someone else might say it is the >> wrong approach. >> > > Hi, I'm start doing the same, so we can merge the works. > At the moment I don't have so much code, but you can put in google > code or somewhere (If it's … [View More]

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