On 27 March 2017 at 12:07, jabir Mohammed (jamohamm) <jamohamm@cisco.com> wrote:
Its a security issue even you are allowing a weaker key in case of 64 bytes deriving only 40 bytes. Let me know how we issue a tracker bug can you please guide me. Since don’t want someone else to waist effort in debugging the same issue.
Hi Jabir and sorry for the previous misspelling! There are a few existing bug reports for KEX related tasks...some are server side, some are client side https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/search?q=kex I think that your bug was already reported (by my) at https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/8258 --------- Regarding the help with this patch. What have you tried so far? Where are you stuck? Where/ with what specifically do you need help? Thanks!
Thanks,
Jabir
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From: Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor@gmail.com> Date: Monday, 27 March 2017 4:34 pm To: jabir mohammed <jamohamm@cisco.com> Cc: Itamar Turner-Trauring <itamar@itamarst.org>, "security@twistedmatrix.com" <security@twistedmatrix.com>, Twisted general discussion <twisted-python@twistedmatrix.com>, "twisted-python-bounces@twistedmatrix.com" <twisted-python-bounces@twistedmatrix.com> Subject: Re: Regarding the SHA 512 support in twisted.
This is not a security issue, so this address isn't the right place for this discussion. Please use the public twisted issue tracker.
Alex
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 5:33 AM, jabir Mohammed (jamohamm) <jamohamm@cisco.com> wrote:
Hi Team,
Wanted to bring one code changes which is really required from twisted side otherwise it is not behaving as per RFC (rfc4253 Section 7.2), twisted is failing when we negotiate any kex algorithm based on SHA1 and we have MAC as hmac-sha2-512. The reason for the failure was the below code
hashProcessor = _kex.getHashProcessor(self.kexAlg) k1 = hashProcessor(sharedSecret + exchangeHash + c + self.sessionID) k1 = k1.digest() k2 = hashProcessor(sharedSecret + exchangeHash + k1).digest() return k1 + k2
For SHA512 we need 64 byte key and if the Kex is based on SHA1 then it will only generate 40 byte key and that induce a failure. So we need to modify the code as below to make it generic and make it comply with RFC (rfc4253 Section 7.2). So that twisted can work irrespective of what kex is been used. Actual code should plot in is like below
hashProcessor = _kex.getHashProcessor(self.kexAlg) k1 = hashProcessor(sharedSecret + exchangeHash + c + self.sessionID) k1 = k1.digest() k2 = hashProcessor(sharedSecret + exchangeHash + k1).digest() k3 = hashProcessor(sharedSecret + exchangeHash + k1 + k2).digest() k4 = hashProcessor(sharedSecret + exchangeHash + k1 + k2 + k3).digest() return k1 + k2 + k3 + k4
Can somebody help me to plot this fix so that twisted will work fine with all the other servers out there and even make it comply to the RFC. Thanks in advance and this will be my first findings on twisted code ;). Please let me know in case of any doubt on the same. Code changes should be plotted in to the routine _getKey, file name is src/twisted/conch/ssh/transport.py . Please help me with this commit team.
Thanks,
Jabir
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From: Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, 1 March 2017 9:26 am To: jabir mohammed <jamohamm@cisco.com> Cc: Itamar Turner-Trauring <itamar@itamarst.org>, "security@twistedmatrix.com" <security@twistedmatrix.com> Subject: Re: Regarding the SHA 512 support in twisted.
This doesn't appear to be a security issue. You can file an issue on the public tracker.
Alex
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:54 PM, jabir Mohammed (jamohamm) <jamohamm@cisco.com> wrote:
Thanks Alex for the response. In our server we added support of HMAC-SHA-512 and HMAC-SHA-256 support for MAC. When we try to negotiate this hmac with most of the other client like Paramiko, OpenSSH and other flavours of SSH its working fine. But we are seeing a problem with twisted client that too only with HMAC-SHA-512. We have a limitation from our side to debug this since we don’t know what is happening from the client side. We have taken our derived key for the HMAC and as well as the input to derive the MAC using online tools and it matches with whatever we have generated but whatever is been sent across the other Twisted side differs and we are closing the session. This is been tagged critical since most of the customers are migrating to Twisted and will be a deployment blocker for us.
What we suspect is the key or the algorithm itself. Please see the snippet below
This is our inmac Key ---------------------------- RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.895 : SSHD_[65795]: ssh_integrity_check: inmac.key RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.895 : SSHD_[65795]: 0000 - a5 cb a5 bb 4c 34 a7 bf-95 e9 00 23 1e 09 17 0c ....L4.....#.... RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.895 : SSHD_[65795]: 0010 - 1c e1 3f d9 a7 42 d9 87-54 23 64 16 e5 e2 c3 76 ..?..B..T#d....v RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.895 : SSHD_[65795]: 0020 - 2a bc 53 c6 85 78 81 eb-e4 3e fb f7 cc a3 1f 6e *.S..x...>.....n RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.895 : SSHD_[65795]: 0030 - d9 a5 0e 73 d0 44 79 a9-d3 19 32 3b 26 92 bb 70 ...s.Dy...2;&..p
This is our input data to the hmac-sha-512 ----------------------------------------------------- RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.895 : SSHD_[65795]: ssh_integrity_check: input.data to HMAC API RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.895 : SSHD_[65795]: 0000 - 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 1c-0a 05 00 00 00 0c 73 73 ..............ss RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.895 : SSHD_[65795]: 0010 - 68 2d 75 73 65 72 61 75-74 68 64 de 66 fb ab 31 h-userauthd.f..1 RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.895 : SSHD_[65795]: 0020 - ba 7e 56 e5 .~V.
The digest which is been sent from the twisted client side(Red) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.895 : SSHD_[65795]: ssh_integrity_check: digest RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.895 : SSHD_[65795]: 0000 - 95 f7 99 27 48 28 35 da-62 92 0e 51 0f af 62 b1 ...'H(5.b..Q..b. RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.896 : SSHD_[65795]: 0010 - 93 d1 4d 46 5f d9 21 7a-b9 fb 86 b6 6e 00 a3 aa ..MF_.!z....n... RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.896 : SSHD_[65795]: 0020 - 84 a9 58 60 5e 1c 86 98-b4 1f 00 40 d5 72 aa cf ..X`^......@.r.. RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.896 : SSHD_[65795]: 0030 - 4b 1d 05 2d a4 68 96 9c-7b c7 9d 83 1d c2 1d 5b K..-.h..{……[
The digest which got created from our side using the same key and input data mentioned above(Green) ——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————— RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.896 : SSHD_[65795]: 0000 - 36 36 5c 6e 2d be f1 d8-ae 4f 5a 72 30 2d 25 c0 66\n-....OZr0-%. RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.896 : SSHD_[65795]: 0010 - 0e e8 d6 96 6e 10 38 af-65 15 51 ff a7 ca 7d b4 ....n.8.e.Q...}. RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.896 : SSHD_[65795]: 0020 - 7c c8 15 b8 5a 9b 5e c4-b5 ac 4c 51 7e de 77 41 |...Z.^...LQ~.wA RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Feb 23 18:12:43.896 : SSHD_[65795]: 0030 - 32 63 61 5e f5 1a 31 d1-f7 89 d0 0b 11 3c 48 f6 2ca^..1......<H.
If you see the details this is the useauth first packet and we are not able to proceed because of the failure. We used online tool to do this calculation and we are getting the same output as what we generated so the one marked as red is creating problem.So the root cause could be either the key which is been derived or the algorithm so to debug that we need to enable details logging from client side. We can share the details with respective engineer and show what we are facing. Please help.
Online tool which we used to check our algorithm is: which result in same MAC marked as green.
https://www.liavaag.org/English/SHA-Generator/HMAC/
Thanks,
Jabir
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From: Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, 1 March 2017 6:39 am To: Itamar Turner-Trauring <itamar@itamarst.org> Cc: jabir mohammed <jamohamm@cisco.com>, "security@twistedmatrix.com" <security@twistedmatrix.com> Subject: Re: FW: Regarding the SHA 512 support in twisted.
Hi,
I think I'm missing some context here, what part of twisted are you trying to use SHA-512 for a MAC with? It sounds like Conch? Can you show how I could reproduce the problem?
Alex
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 8:06 PM, Itamar Turner-Trauring <itamar@itamarst.org> wrote:
Hi,
Forwarding on to security contact to see if they think it's a security problem; otherwise you can probably just file a normal ticket.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017, at 05:01 AM, jabir Mohammed (jamohamm) wrote:
Hi Team,
Wanted to cross check on SHA 512 algorithm as MAC while using twisted. Few of our customers started using Twisted and even we are trying to incorporate some scripts via twisted client. But what we have noticed is that when we negotiate SHA 512 MAC with twisted we always get a failure and other MAC algorithms are working fine with twisted. So wanted to cross check do we have any bug or any issue with SHA 512 and twisted and how we can debug this from twisted side.
We checked the same with other OpenSSH client and even paramiko things work perfectly fine so wanted to debug further from the twisted side. We checked with the same derived key and the output whatever we got from SHA 512 is what we are getting from the online tool so we suspect something to do with the key or hash algorithm from the other side.
We used the twisted 16.6.0 version for testing, thanks in advance for looking in to this email.
Thanks,
Jabir
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