and thats not even evniormnet stuff like linux vs mac vs windows. its a guessing game on what to download. and its much easier just to bitch about it. I think because no one really knows..everyone just kinda struggles though the dark with a light and hopes for the best. 

On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Ryan McParlan <> wrote:
theres just always some snag b/c of all this module importing thats  supposed to make django easy so you have this repository via pip thats just cluttered with crap.

Dependices are a problem...moving parts. computers have too many moving parts and interactions and layers and layers of crap. 

On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Ryan McParlan <> wrote:
I mean I wish I could explain what goes wrong. Thats 90% of the frustration.