Twisted dev people dudes,

> Nevertheless, Daniel didn't lead with the details and refrain from a value judgement, so the

> advice applies equally well to him.

Lesson learned. Thanks. I agree that this is important.

Now to bring the thread back on-topic, I'd like to ask what pb should do in principle. In other words, what is the specification for the flavors? I think a discussion of each pb flavor would be helpful and would provide me material from which I can generate missing docstrings [1]. I'd rather do it this way instead of backing out what the standing implementation currently does so that I don't waste time working on something which is a fundamentally bad idea. This discussion should be a small investment at the present time.

Copyable:

The functionality provided by Copyable is simple. The sender of the Copyable just sends it and *forgets*. Therefore, sending a Copyable is basically just sending atomic data in a particular format. I don't think we need to discuss this any further.

Referenceable:

When I send you a Referenceable, I send a GUID so that you can later refer to that object. For example, I send you a message with argument (psuedo code)

"referenceable-'Joe'"

This is a declaration that I am keeping hold of an object called "Joe" upon which you may call methods remotely. Specifically, you can send me

"'Joe-foo-4"

which tells me to call Joe.foo(4) and send you the result.

1. How long should the GUID for Joe survive? If Joe is deleted can I reuse the name "Joe" for an object created later?

2. Do I notify you if Joe disappears on my side?

Let's stop here for now. I owe glyph some reviews [2].

Yours sincerely,

Daniel

[1] I already submitted a patch to the pb documentation and improved the submission based on review. I hope this provides some indication of my commitment to make material contributions. I mention this because glyph made a comment suggesting that showing real work would be valuable.

[2] Is this the beginning of a process which will lead me in the end to complete servitude and loss of ownership of my own soul?