you might also look at http://modeling.sourceforge.net/ it is definitely different than other persistance layers in python- but if you have a background similar to mine, it will feel more comfortable to some of these other systems. good luck, kevin Jp Calderone wrote:
Eugene Coetzee wrote:
Hi,
Being new to both Twisted and ZODB and not finding too much info on Twisted.Persisted by googling I have decided to post this question.
I have also noticed a few projects running Twisted "on top of" ZODB as it were.
I get the impression that Twisted.Persisted is more of an utility add-on to Twisted whereas ZODB is a full fledged object database.
That is true. Nothing in twisted.persisted is usable by itself as a persistence mechanism for a non-trivial application.
AOT and Marmalade are graph serialization formats. Neither supports new-style objects very well, IIRC. Even if they do, neither is particularly quick, nor provides anything beyond simple storage of a complete object graph, hardly the only requirement for a database.
dirdbm is a cute toy, but not again really useful as a non-trivial data store. It's slow and fragile, and doesn't provide any functionality beyond what the bsddb module in Python 2.3 provides.
sob is a handy front-end to AOT, Marmalade, pickle, and tac files.
crefutil is helper code for aot and jelly and perhaps some other serialization modules.
The styles module has all the cool code. It lets you pickle otherwise unpickleable types and provides the Versioned class, which lets you deal with mixing old data with new code.
Still - I would very much like to use Twisted.Persisted for trancient data/metadata in a new project I'm tackling cause it is always good to minimize dependencies and I know I can use postgreSQL with Twisted for heavy duty stuff - which I still believe a better option than OODB.
Unless you have very little data, and you don't care _terribly_ if you lose it, twisted.persisted probably isn't going to do it for you.
How does Twisted.Persisted compare to ZODB - if such a comparison can be made? Any other OODB's to be considered for use with Twisted?
You might look at Atop. It's somewhat lighter weight than ZODB. http://www.divmod.org/ has some docs, but it needs more. It also isn't distributed separately from Quotient yet (but is easily separable once you download it).
I would also very much appreciate some links to on-line docs/examples regarding Twisted.Persisted if they exist. kind regards,
I wish I could point you at something, but I hope the above has been an adequate substitute.
Jp
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