[Twisted-Python] This seems too good to be true... :-)

Hi! I know I probably should lurk-a-lot-first, so please just tell me to shut up if I'm somehow out of line here... I like to state up front that I'm fresh, fresh and fresh. I switched to Debian just recently, I have just read my first Python book, and I didn't know this place existed until a week ago. The latter is what I wonder about in the Subject. How come it was so hard to find you? I have lurked quite a lot on comp.lang.python and c.l.p.announce, and I have surfed around on a lot of Python websites, but the first I ever heard of twisted was in c.l.p.a on the 9th. I'm very impressed with your setup and what I have seen of the code so far, so I figure _something_ must be wrong. :-) Ah, well. I hope I'm wrong, because I'd love both to use this stuff, and help out. I have coded a few (professional) projects before, but only in VB, so I'll keep my defiled hands off the code here until I've de-learned most of my bad habits... :-) Hopefully I can do some bug-hunting, testing and maybe even a little documentation after a while? (I dual boot to Win95 and have installed ActivePython there, if that can be useful.) My first try to do more than babble, will be a suggestion I couldn't find anything about in the archive; On my Debian, the package is installed in /usr/lib/python2.1/site-packages/twisted, but there's no twisted.pth file in the site-packages directory. After I added such a file (only containing the word "twisted" without the apostrophes) I now have twisted in sys.path when I start a Python shell. If it was missing for some good reason, I'd like to know it... Nils

On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 23:20, Nils R Grotnes wrote:
You're far from out of line, sir :-) [clip..]
Oh, you'll probably be hearing more about Twisted in the coming months.... muwahahaha!
This is great! We would love your help. Documentation and win32 support are two things that need focus. More heads working on these would be a _very_ good thing :-)
You shouldn't need a .pth file, here. You're supposed to qualify all packages inside the 'twisted' package. That is, rather than doing "import internet", you do "from twisted import internet" or "import twisted.internet". So anyway, what sorts of projects are you interested in doing with Twisted? -- Chris Armstrong << radix@twistedmatrix.com >> http://twistedmatrix.com/users/carmstro.twistd/

Christopher
Oh, you'll probably be hearing more about Twisted in the coming months.... muwahahaha!
Ah! (Or should that be: Eh? :-) I actually stumbled into this place because I was searching for good DNS support in Python. There's a sourceforge package that I think is supposed to be added to the standard release sometime in the future. But I found it very incomplete, and rather ugly. I haven't looked very hard into the twisted version, but superficially it looks much cleaner.
I'm in, then! I must warn everyone that I'm currently on a 28.8 Kb modem. I'm working on getting a cable connection, but until then I'm slow to reply and not too keen on repeatedly downloading huge chunks of bytes...
I get it. Looking into the Bobo, HTMLgen, Numeric, PIL and gadfly, which are packages that use such a file, I see they have just plonked all their code into one sub-directory.
So anyway, what sorts of projects are you interested in doing with Twisted?
I'm not the typically reliable, plodding kind of worker. So I doubt I'll ever try to volunteer for the news column... But I'm open to help out in more time limited projects, if someone need that. Just send me an email. I do have some ideas for coding projects, for example I am wondering if it will be possible to rewrite this Pyne email+news client I'm currently using, with twisted code and OO-structure. Pyne is written in Python, and have a OE/Pegasus look that I think is rather good. Having a GUI interface that caters to those of us used to having all messaging components in one application, while having the *nix multi-user and modular structure in the background, is what I'm aiming at. Though Pyne is good on the surface, the author readily admitted that very OO it is not. He also does not update his website or reply to emails any more... But that's for the future, I'm currently just reading and learning. What I will be doing, is taking notes about nits. As I'm reading webpages and documentation, I notice errors that are probably very hard to see once the text has been read a few times. Is there some link or address I can send such nitlets to? Maybe somewhere on the PoundPython wikiwiki? Maybe I should just make one... And I'm always open to other suggestions. Nils

On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 21:52, Nils R Grotnes wrote:
This is excellent! A few of us are interested in doing a mail client as well. ^.^
Oh, the mailling lists here is absolutely fine. Also, if you want to get in contact with any of us in real-time, most of the developers hang out on the #Python and #Twisted channels on the irc.openprojects.net IRC network. Drop by and have a chat! (or have you already been there, and I didn't realize you were? ^.^) -- Chris Armstrong << radix@twistedmatrix.com >> http://twistedmatrix.com/users/carmstro.twistd/

On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 23:20, Nils R Grotnes wrote:
You're far from out of line, sir :-) [clip..]
Oh, you'll probably be hearing more about Twisted in the coming months.... muwahahaha!
This is great! We would love your help. Documentation and win32 support are two things that need focus. More heads working on these would be a _very_ good thing :-)
You shouldn't need a .pth file, here. You're supposed to qualify all packages inside the 'twisted' package. That is, rather than doing "import internet", you do "from twisted import internet" or "import twisted.internet". So anyway, what sorts of projects are you interested in doing with Twisted? -- Chris Armstrong << radix@twistedmatrix.com >> http://twistedmatrix.com/users/carmstro.twistd/

Christopher
Oh, you'll probably be hearing more about Twisted in the coming months.... muwahahaha!
Ah! (Or should that be: Eh? :-) I actually stumbled into this place because I was searching for good DNS support in Python. There's a sourceforge package that I think is supposed to be added to the standard release sometime in the future. But I found it very incomplete, and rather ugly. I haven't looked very hard into the twisted version, but superficially it looks much cleaner.
I'm in, then! I must warn everyone that I'm currently on a 28.8 Kb modem. I'm working on getting a cable connection, but until then I'm slow to reply and not too keen on repeatedly downloading huge chunks of bytes...
I get it. Looking into the Bobo, HTMLgen, Numeric, PIL and gadfly, which are packages that use such a file, I see they have just plonked all their code into one sub-directory.
So anyway, what sorts of projects are you interested in doing with Twisted?
I'm not the typically reliable, plodding kind of worker. So I doubt I'll ever try to volunteer for the news column... But I'm open to help out in more time limited projects, if someone need that. Just send me an email. I do have some ideas for coding projects, for example I am wondering if it will be possible to rewrite this Pyne email+news client I'm currently using, with twisted code and OO-structure. Pyne is written in Python, and have a OE/Pegasus look that I think is rather good. Having a GUI interface that caters to those of us used to having all messaging components in one application, while having the *nix multi-user and modular structure in the background, is what I'm aiming at. Though Pyne is good on the surface, the author readily admitted that very OO it is not. He also does not update his website or reply to emails any more... But that's for the future, I'm currently just reading and learning. What I will be doing, is taking notes about nits. As I'm reading webpages and documentation, I notice errors that are probably very hard to see once the text has been read a few times. Is there some link or address I can send such nitlets to? Maybe somewhere on the PoundPython wikiwiki? Maybe I should just make one... And I'm always open to other suggestions. Nils

On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 21:52, Nils R Grotnes wrote:
This is excellent! A few of us are interested in doing a mail client as well. ^.^
Oh, the mailling lists here is absolutely fine. Also, if you want to get in contact with any of us in real-time, most of the developers hang out on the #Python and #Twisted channels on the irc.openprojects.net IRC network. Drop by and have a chat! (or have you already been there, and I didn't realize you were? ^.^) -- Chris Armstrong << radix@twistedmatrix.com >> http://twistedmatrix.com/users/carmstro.twistd/
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