Just a heads up, the backwards compatability code (what little of it there was) in twisted.python.util has just moved to twisted.python.compat. I left a dict proxy in place that issues a deprecation warning, but all new code should use twisted.python.compat. Any future compatability code should go in this module. Jp -- <Greatnuts> someone gave me bad advice this morning <Greatnuts> told me to use twm <Greatnuts> had to reformat <Greatnuts> just to get it off -- 12:00am up 13 days, 9:45, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00