Hi. I did some hacking with twisted.web and woven, just to try and teach myself how to go about writing a web application using twisted, bearing in mind I write php in my day job, this was a little hard. http://thorne.ath.cx:3000/~stephen/wikiexample.xhtml is the result of my efforts, and you can see it running at http://thorne.ath.cx:8081/MainPage/ I've got there the original code I started with (using Resource and a fairly phpish methodology) and what I finished with. In my little venture back into the realm of twisted, I see the following lacking in the documentation: * The varied Views and Widgets are poorly documented, I found myself inventing what was needed, then going into Twisted/twisted/web/woven/ and reading widgets.py and view.py - and discovering that they already existed. * There is very little mapping between "This is how you would do it in a silly framework" -> "This is how twisted makes it cleaner and easier" * The pitfalls. * e.g. For submitting forms and the implicit header "Location:" redirects which obliterate your post values. (When you have <form action="/Foo/bar">, but you'll get redirected to "/Foo/bar/") * the interface to the factories should be written down on a piece of card and stuck to the monitor. Swapping 'request' and 'model' doesn't help things. As such, I intend to go through all the views and widgets, and write a small example piece of code, showing what each of them does, and what inputs/outputs they take. I also intend to take some php idioms and show a mapping from them to twisted. Fortuantely, I've got loads of experience with lore (I recently used it to typeset a 90+ page tutorial for a camp I'm leading on in 2 weeks, http://thorne.ath.cx:3000/lwdoc/index.xhtml if you're interested) Please send replies CC: stephen@thorne.id.au as I'm not currently subscribed to the list. Regards, Stephen Thorne