On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Free Ekanayaka wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

|--==> On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:38:36 +0000, Jonathan Lange said:

 JL> Since we've just released Twisted 10.0.0 and since the release is  JL> awesome, stable, low-risk and a great thing to have in the next  JL> long-term support version of Ubuntu, I think we should strive to get a  JL> "Feature Freeze expection" (aka an "FFe").

Definitely. I guess this involves updating all the various twisted-X packages.

 JL> I've followed the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess and  JL> have filed a bug at  JL> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/twisted/+bug/531977.  JL> But I need help.

If we want to update all twisted Ubuntu packages and not only the -core one, I *think* we need a separate bug filed against each of them. A quick answer on #ubuntu-devel should clear this out.

They have separate source packages? If so, yes we would need separate FFes. Do you want to do this?

It looks like the only API removal that could raise compatibility issues is:

 - The deprecated connectUDP method of IReactorUDP has now been   removed. (#4075)

I'm wondering if there's any code in Ubuntu packages relying on it.

How would we find out?

 JL> The FFe process requires a packaged version of the new release, along  JL> with build files and what not. I lack the expertise to do this, so I'd  JL> very much appreciate it if someone here who knows Debian/Ubuntu  JL> packaging could please package the new 10.0.0 release and attach the  JL> relevant files to the bug.

Have you already asked Matthias Klose (the maintainer) if he is interested in updating the packages himself? If not, I'll be glad to help out.

No, I haven't. It'd be great if you could sort this out. Thanks, jml

On 02:20 pm, free@64studio.com wrote:

|--==> On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:10:46 +0000, Jonathan Lange said:

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If we want to update all twisted Ubuntu packages and not only the -core one, I *think* we need a separate bug filed against each of them. A quick answer on #ubuntu-devel should clear this out.

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They have separate source packages? If so, yes we would need separate FFes.

Yes, the have separate source packages.

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Do you want to do this?

Sure.

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It looks like the only API removal that could raise compatibility issues is:

�- The deprecated connectUDP method of IReactorUDP has now been � removed. (#4075)

I'm wondering if there's any code in Ubuntu packages relying on it.

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How would we find out?

Good question. Something like pulling the source packages of all packages directly or indirectly depending on python-twisted-core and grepping for connectUDP.

I looked at the direct (apt-cache rdepends python-twisted | tail -n +3) and once removed (apt-cache rdepends python-twisted | tail -n +3 | xargs -iF bash -c 'apt-cache rdepends F | tail -n +3' | sort | uniq) dependencies of python-twisted. One package refers to connectUDP, flumotion. It doesn't appear to actually use it, though; instead it seems to be monkey-patching it to correct a documentation issue. I don't think the removal will break this package, but it may result in flumotion-generated Twisted docs which include connectUDP, even though it no longer exists.

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Have you already asked Matthias Klose (the maintainer) if he is interested in updating the packages himself? If not, I'll be glad to help out.

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No, I haven't. It'd be great if you could sort this out.

Okay, I'll check that.

Ciao!

Thanks! Jean-Paul

Hi

Matthias said he thinks that a Feature Freeze Exception is fine for Twisted 10.0.0, and I can go on packaging it. There are quite a few source packages to update, I'll try to do it in the coming days.

I uploaded updated version of all the packages to our PPA [1] and requested a sponsored upload. I've also rebuilt the packages for Karmic, and made a backport for Hardy for those of us who are not on the bleeding edge :-) Cheers. 1 - https://launchpad.net/~twisted-dev/+archive/ppa

Hi Free

Nice job. I can sponsor the upload to Debian, if that helps (I guess once all packages are in Debian we can request a sync, and it probably makes sense as anyway we want to eventually have them in Debian as well).

Thanks! However, there are some glitches in the packages you uploaded to Debian: - they skipped 9.0.0-2, and thus #566395 and #566913 are open again - python-twisted doesn't depend on >= 10.0.0, but >= 9.0 Those bugs were fixed in the packages in our PPA, though.

~% dpkg -c python-twisted-core_10.0.0-0\~ppa1\~lucid1_all.deb|grep _initgroups.so -rw-r--r-- root/root 15876 2010-03-08 15:27 ./usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/twisted/python/_initgroups.so

Thanks, I didn't notice that, I should have read the NEWS file :-P What should we do next? Can the currently packages in Debian be revoked or do we have to prepare new ones? Cheers.

Hi, |--==> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:39:01 +0100, Free Ekanayaka said: EF> What should we do next? Can the currently packages in Debian be revoked or do EF> we have to prepare new ones? FE> I've just prepared a new revision (10.0.0-2) with the two fixes you FE> reported and gonna upload it soon. That's uploaded to Debian/unstable along with the other twisted-X source packages. I'm going to request a sync for the Lucid packages. Ciao! Free