It would work for your 1, 3, and 4. There's a bit of documentation for both. Athena is not a gui toolkit, however. It provides a nice bidirectional rpc mechanism between Nevow server and browser js. Pyjamas desktop is just a wrapper to create a standalone packaging of app resources with webkit. I suppose that you don't want to get your hands dirty with js/dom. It may be possible to hook the Pyjamas UI stuff to Athena, dunno. Interesting article: http://ejohn.org/blog/javascript-language-abstractions/ On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Theron D. Huffman wrote:

Thanks Cary,

Where would Nevow/Athena fit in my strategy? 1, 2, 3 , or 4?

Actually I have looked at Nevow/Athena and I'm very afraid of using it because there's only a few examples and a complete lack of documentation.

Dan

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Message: 7 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:57:54 -0800 From: "Cary Hull" Subject: Re: [Twisted-Python] Pyjamas + web2py + twisted vs Django + Pinax To: "Twisted general discussion" Message-ID: <3fce0ae70812181757x8882d43lfa3d5f45ae463d6f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Have you looked at Nevow/Athena? http://divmod.org/trac/wiki/DivmodNevow

-Cary

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Theron D. Huffman wrote:

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I'm about to start programming a game in Python. The game will be a web-based board game with a social aspect, something like http://www.chesspark.com. I want the game to run in both browsers and as a desktop client. Therefore I'm wondering what python-based technologies I need. I know that Javascript/AJAX is necessary for the browser part so I have decided on the following:

1. Pyjamas - (for the AJAX browser stuff)

2. Pyjamas-desktop - (for the desktop client)

3. Web2py (or djanjo, or django+pinax) - for the website on which the game will run and for database access and social part - login, chat, members, profiles, game history, etc.)

4. Twisted - for the networking and chat functionality.

5. Pygame - for most of the game stuff, sprites, inages, etc. (Actually I don't know if Pygame is necessary for a board-type game.)

My understanding of the above technologies is still limited and I'm not sure if I need all of these because some functionality may be overlapped. e.g. I don't know where Pyjamas leaves off and where web2py/danjo/pinax begins.

Can someone please give me some advice?

Kindest Regards, Dan Huffman

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