[Twisted-Python] We have Apple's ear (cont'd)

Just a list of things I plan to ask for anyway (in no particular order): * hardware * money * engineers to fix Mac-related bugs in Twisted (or other dependencies) directly ... the list could provide me with a log of a run of trial to help here * a list of the problems python users are most likely to mention to Apple sales engineers, and solutions for same __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

On Tuesday, Jan 28, 2003, at 18:21 America/New_York, Cory Dodt wrote:
Just a list of things I plan to ask for anyway (in no particular order):
* hardware
* money
* engineers to fix Mac-related bugs in Twisted (or other dependencies) directly ... the list could provide me with a log of a run of trial to help here
* a list of the problems python users are most likely to mention to Apple sales engineers, and solutions for same
Well, I think I'm the resident OS X developer here, I actually have the expensive subscription to their developer's program, mostly for the hardware discounts.. There isn't much of a problem for Twisted on MacOSX, even with the crippled stock 2.2 interpreter.. I use it as my primary development platform for Twisted and everything else. What Apple needs to do, for god's sake, is allow Jack Jansen <Jack.Jansen@oratrix.com> to maintain the Python build in darwin and OS X proper. Or at least consult with him before releasing something. Apple er.. screwed up a lot of ./configure options when building the 2.2 build that ships with OS X. If the thing was built properly it'd be ready to do full GUI applications (Modules to interface with CoreFoundation, Carbon, etc), it even builds a GUI application launcher *and* an IDE! It would also be nice if it shipped with the ctypes and pyobjc modules, which covers all of your other needs. Neither of them are totally stable yet though. Hardware, money, and engineers are not required at all.. The community has already done all of the work, it's just up to Apple to integrate it into their distribution. Python has been pretty solid on OS X for about 12 months now. It would be *nice* if some apple heads would subscribe to pythonmac-sig@python.org and pyobjc-dev@lists.sourceforge.net. -bob

On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 07:05:45PM -0500, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Tuesday, Jan 28, 2003, at 18:21 America/New_York, Cory Dodt wrote:
Hardware, money, and engineers are not required at all..
That said, if they want to hand out free / cheap TiBooks, I'll be more than happy to hack for Macs :) jml

On Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003, at 13:04 America/New_York, Jonathan M. Lange wrote:
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 07:05:45PM -0500, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Tuesday, Jan 28, 2003, at 18:21 America/New_York, Cory Dodt wrote:
Hardware, money, and engineers are not required at all..
That said, if they want to hand out free / cheap TiBooks, I'll be more than happy to hack for Macs :)
Of course, but required != appreciated :) -bob
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Bob Ippolito
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Cory Dodt
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