Re: [yt-dev] [yt-users] Mailing list archives

Hi John, (Dropping users' list) I have investigated, and we could potentially move mailing list hosting to NCSA without losing the existing archives. The biggest issue I see with that would be that for it to happen, yt-project.org (which I'd want to move the lists to) would need to be transferred to NCSA/UIUC's ownership. While this means I might not need to pay the renewal fees out of the money I would otherwise be squandering on exploring limited edition flavors of mountain dew, it would also mean that the project would become ever more affiliated with NCSA, which is something I have been somewhat leery about. Part of the reason for this is that I'm sensitive to it being "an NCSA project" or being too strongly tied to a single institution, particularly because that may have weird, difficult-to-quantify ramifications with the community. On the other hand, maybe I'm making too much out of that. (Although, it would mean folks would need NCSA usernames -- easily available, mind you -- to log in to the webserver.) If we decided that was all fine and happytimes, we could do the migration like this, avoiding any loss of information: * Remain on dreamhost long enough to migrate all the mailing lists to lists.yt-project.org, including setting up email forwarding from the spacepope.org email addresses. (This step is somewhat optional.) * Move the DNS and archives and mailing lists to an NCSA-hosted instance, still at lists.yt-project.org. * Move all the web site stuff over to yt-project.org hosted at NCSA. * I close down my dreamhost account. Now, in principle, I'm fine with this -- lots of projects are hosted at institutions. But, yt also predates any NCSA affiliation. So, I dunno. -Matt On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:40 PM, John ZuHone wrote:

If you ask me, the time for migration is long past, but I appreciate the fact that you had more patience than I. :)

John ZuHone Kavli Center for Astrophysics and Space Research Massachusetts Institute of Technology 77 Massachusetts Ave., 37-582G Cambridge, MA 02139 (w) 617-253-2354 (m) 781-708-5004 jzuhone@space.mit.edu jzuhone@gmail.com http://www.jzuhone.com

On May 7, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Matthew Turk wrote:

I've submitted, for the sixth time, a ticket to dreamhost asking why our mailing list archives are still unavailable. I have said that at the very least, I would like access to the archives in either mbox or internal mailman format; if they cannot give me an ETA on when the mailing list archives will be available, I'm going to plan a migration somewhere else.

This email took ten minutes to write, since I've been unable in all that time to identify the correct emoji to communicate the particular mixture of frustration, annoyance and powerlessness I feel about this particular topic.

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