I've been toying with an onboarding bot on glitch that can also send out hellos and whatnot.  If we have suggestions to convey, we could put them in there and make it nicely friendly.

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 11:14 AM Michael Zingale <michael.zingale@stonybrook.edu> wrote:
that's a great idea.

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Nathan Goldbaum <nathan12343@gmail.com> wrote:
I just added #help to the list of channels new users join by default (along with #general and #random).

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Desika Narayanan <desika.narayanan@gmail.com> wrote:
I think these points are really good Kacper.  yt has always excelled at its inclusivity, and it's something to be proud of.

It might be that if there's a minimal set of channels that are very descriptive that everyone is automagically added to when they sign up for yt slack (like, #help, #random and #general plus maybe one or two others I'm not thinking of), it would be fairly obvious where queries vs random chit chat might go to newcomers.   Trimming extraneous channels beyond that that are no longer in use (#mockuni, #octree, etc.) would also help, though since one has to go and manually add those channels, it's probably not a big deal.

For posting in threads, vs the main channel when in response to a particular comment/query, I think that can just be taught by example.   It doesn't take much participation in a community to get a sense for the typical rules of thumb.    

Beyond that, if the members of the yt community continue the very positive interactions that are typical (and awesome) in the slack page, I think it will remain inclusive to newcomers.   

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 11:48 AM Kacper Kowalik <xarthisius.kk@gmail.com> wrote:
On 05/18/2018 10:29 AM, Nathan Goldbaum wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Kacper Kowalik
> <xarthisius.kk@gmail.com <mailto:xarthisius.kk@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hey,
>
>     On 05/14/2018 04:54 PM, Nathan Goldbaum wrote:
>
>     > 1. Make the general channel less noisy
>     > 2. Point people asking for help to the #help channel.
>
>     I really dislike that idea. I'm member of a slack org that has a similar
>     rule that's very strongly enforced. Up to the point where first and last
>     name of a person who does that most often is used as a verb
>     (I FN LN'ed him == I told him to move the conversation to a proper
>     channel). There's no other place I feel so strongly discouraged to
>     participate in any discussion (and I'm an out-spoken WHAM that usually
>     don't care about social conventions).
>     I'd really hate to see yt slack to turn into such place.
>
>     Cheers,
>     Kacper
>
>
> OK, thank you for the feedback.
>
> Can you suggest an alternative? Is it rude of me to start a thread when
> someone asks a help question in #general?

You're a long way from doing that in manner I described above, but
consider the following scenario:

You're a shy person that doesn't participate in our slack very often.
You gather up the courage and ask a question on the first channel that
pops up after you log in (which by slack's design is #general). I show
up and tell you that you should ask that somewhere else. Now, not only I
didn't help you to solve your problem, but additionally I made you feel
bad for asking a question in a "wrong place"...

I don't know any better solution. However, I don't feel bad about
current status quo. I personally don't think that #general is *that*
noisy. I think these days everybody is subscribed to so many slacks that
they mute each of them by default. I have no data to back my claims
though :)

Cheers,
Kacper

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