(moved to yt-dev) Hi all, This is a great reason to push on a more regular release schedule. Do you think it might be worthwhile to aim for time-based releases? We've had a spring release, maybe aim for a Summer release, and then we could try to just do rolling releases like that? [+-][01] on [quarterly|semiannual|annual] releases? -Matt On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Anthony Harness <anthony.harness@colorado.edu> wrote:
Britton,
Adding those lines works for the stable install, which I guess is maintained by Hari. My problem was running the unstable install maintained by Stephen, which he informed me does not work in parallel. As Stephen mentioned before, if Hari could update his development install, I could use that instead.
Thanks, Anthony
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+1 semiannual. but if they have alliterative animal names, i'm quitting. On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk@gmail.com> wrote:
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Hi all,
This is a great reason to push on a more regular release schedule.
Do you think it might be worthwhile to aim for time-based releases? We've had a spring release, maybe aim for a Summer release, and then we could try to just do rolling releases like that? [+-][01] on [quarterly|semiannual|annual] releases?
-Matt
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Anthony Harness <anthony.harness@colorado.edu> wrote:
Britton,
Adding those lines works for the stable install, which I guess is maintained by Hari. My problem was running the unstable install maintained by Stephen, which he informed me does not work in parallel. As Stephen mentioned before, if Hari could update his development install, I could use that instead.
Thanks, Anthony
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I'm +1 as long as we stay true to the idea of these being stable releases. We are close to getting a testing infrastructure up for yt, so that might make this possible. Would this be something like yt 2.1.1? Britton On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk@gmail.com> wrote:
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Hi all,
This is a great reason to push on a more regular release schedule.
Do you think it might be worthwhile to aim for time-based releases? We've had a spring release, maybe aim for a Summer release, and then we could try to just do rolling releases like that? [+-][01] on [quarterly|semiannual|annual] releases?
-Matt
Britton,
Adding those lines works for the stable install, which I guess is
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Anthony Harness <anthony.harness@colorado.edu> wrote: maintained
by Hari. My problem was running the unstable install maintained by Stephen, which he informed me does not work in parallel. As Stephen mentioned before, if Hari could update his development install, I could use that instead.
Thanks, Anthony
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Hi Britton, I was thinking the next one would be 2.2, and that we'd continue with up to 2.9 with just version += 0.1 until we opted to do a 3.0, which I assume would come before 4.5 years from now. Interim bug fixes between releases would be X.X.Y, I was thinking. -Matt On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Britton Smith <brittonsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm +1 as long as we stay true to the idea of these being stable releases. We are close to getting a testing infrastructure up for yt, so that might make this possible. Would this be something like yt 2.1.1?
Britton
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk@gmail.com> wrote:
(moved to yt-dev)
Hi all,
This is a great reason to push on a more regular release schedule.
Do you think it might be worthwhile to aim for time-based releases? We've had a spring release, maybe aim for a Summer release, and then we could try to just do rolling releases like that? [+-][01] on [quarterly|semiannual|annual] releases?
-Matt
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Anthony Harness <anthony.harness@colorado.edu> wrote:
Britton,
Adding those lines works for the stable install, which I guess is maintained by Hari. My problem was running the unstable install maintained by Stephen, which he informed me does not work in parallel. As Stephen mentioned before, if Hari could update his development install, I could use that instead.
Thanks, Anthony
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+1 >= quarterly. On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:44 AM, j s oishi <jsoishi@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 semiannual. but if they have alliterative animal names, i'm quitting.
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk@gmail.com> wrote:
(moved to yt-dev)
Hi all,
This is a great reason to push on a more regular release schedule.
Do you think it might be worthwhile to aim for time-based releases? We've had a spring release, maybe aim for a Summer release, and then we could try to just do rolling releases like that? [+-][01] on [quarterly|semiannual|annual] releases?
-Matt
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Anthony Harness <anthony.harness@colorado.edu> wrote:
Britton,
Adding those lines works for the stable install, which I guess is maintained by Hari. My problem was running the unstable install maintained by Stephen, which he informed me does not work in parallel. As Stephen mentioned before, if Hari could update his development install, I could use that instead.
Thanks, Anthony
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I'm +1 for either Jeff's or Matt's version naming. Also, quarterly I think should be the highest frequency. Britton On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:51 PM, david collins <antpuncher@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 >= quarterly.
+1 semiannual. but if they have alliterative animal names, i'm quitting.
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk@gmail.com> wrote:
(moved to yt-dev)
Hi all,
This is a great reason to push on a more regular release schedule.
Do you think it might be worthwhile to aim for time-based releases? We've had a spring release, maybe aim for a Summer release, and then we could try to just do rolling releases like that? [+-][01] on [quarterly|semiannual|annual] releases?
-Matt
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Anthony Harness <anthony.harness@colorado.edu> wrote:
Britton,
Adding those lines works for the stable install, which I guess is
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:44 AM, j s oishi <jsoishi@gmail.com> wrote: maintained
by Hari. My problem was running the unstable install maintained by Stephen, which he informed me does not work in parallel. As Stephen mentioned before, if Hari could update his development install, I could use that instead.
Thanks, Anthony
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+1 to semi-annual or annual, but contingent on having a testing mechanism to make sure things are *stable* when we release them. there is no sense in pushing out lots of versions unless we're happy to make sure they are stable (after all, people can download the unstable from the web at any time), and making things stable takes time. cameron On 5/26/11 1:54 PM, Britton Smith wrote:
I'm +1 for either Jeff's or Matt's version naming. Also, quarterly I think should be the highest frequency.
Britton
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:51 PM, david collins <antpuncher@gmail.com <mailto:antpuncher@gmail.com>> wrote:
+1 >= quarterly.
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:44 AM, j s oishi <jsoishi@gmail.com <mailto:jsoishi@gmail.com>> wrote: > +1 semiannual. but if they have alliterative animal names, i'm quitting. > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk@gmail.com <mailto:matthewturk@gmail.com>> wrote: >> (moved to yt-dev) >> >> Hi all, >> >> This is a great reason to push on a more regular release schedule. >> >> Do you think it might be worthwhile to aim for time-based releases? >> We've had a spring release, maybe aim for a Summer release, and then >> we could try to just do rolling releases like that? [+-][01] on >> [quarterly|semiannual|annual] releases? >> >> -Matt >> >> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Anthony Harness >> <anthony.harness@colorado.edu <mailto:anthony.harness@colorado.edu>> wrote: >>> Britton, >>> >>> Adding those lines works for the stable install, which I guess is maintained >>> by Hari. My problem was running the unstable install maintained by Stephen, >>> which he informed me does not work in parallel. As Stephen mentioned before, >>> if Hari could update his development install, I could use that instead. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Anthony >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yt-users mailing list >>> yt-users@lists.spacepope.org <mailto:yt-users@lists.spacepope.org> >>> http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-users-spacepope.org >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Yt-dev mailing list >> Yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org <mailto:Yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org> >> http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Yt-dev mailing list > Yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org <mailto:Yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org> > http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org >
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+1 as long as the names are randomly generated, throwing out any alliterative animal names as per Jeff's request. Here's an example website: http://online-generator.com/name-generator/project-name-generator.php -- Stephen Skory s@skory.us http://stephenskory.com/ 510.621.3687 (google voice)
Hi Cameron, I agree, there is no sense in pushing out a poor release. But perhaps it would be worthwhile to try to aim for six-month intervals. That would place this next release as coming out on October 6. I think that it would nominally be ready much sooner, possibly as soon as the end of June. The main features I see in this release: * Reason (the web GUI) * Initial Nyx support, which will be improved substantially over the month of June * Python 2.7 requirement * Re-centering functions in halo profiler * Isolated plot objects (yt.visualization.profile_plotter contains these) * Initial plot window We could potentially also have the new field containers, as well. Additionally, yt-in-Paraview is coming along extremely well (discussion on that has been ongoing on the "Amr" mailing list on the kitware server), so we could very well have that done. The reason I'm listing these features is that as we grow as a community, maintaining modules on supercomputing centers becomes more and more attractive. And long waits between releases just means that people who rely on those modules will become further detached from the main stream of development. Right now we have modules on Nautilus, Kraken, and I was just notified tonight that modules on Odyssey (CfA) and Trestles are forthcoming. But, yes. It needs to be well-tested and not shoved out like some natty narwhal on its own with no sense of unity. I like Britton's point about doing testing. I will try to finish up the outward facing aspects of the test runner shortly and then write to the list (and document) how it's currently set up to work. One unfortunate aspect of it is that it's currently challenging to fork or execute subprocesses, and much of what I am skittish about with the new field container is related to overriding and whatnot, which are best tested in clean processor spaces. So that's another item to add to that list. Anyhow, it sounds like we're all sort of on the same page: timed releases, roughly 6 months apart, that are well-tested, is a good way to go. Let's strive for this, and I'd like to start it up by aiming to have this relatively near-to-completion release out by the end of June. Thanks everyone for your feedback! -Matt On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Cameron Hummels <chummels@astro.columbia.edu> wrote:
+1 to semi-annual or annual, but contingent on having a testing mechanism to make sure things are *stable* when we release them. there is no sense in pushing out lots of versions unless we're happy to make sure they are stable (after all, people can download the unstable from the web at any time), and making things stable takes time.
cameron
On 5/26/11 1:54 PM, Britton Smith wrote:
I'm +1 for either Jeff's or Matt's version naming. Also, quarterly I think should be the highest frequency.
Britton
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:51 PM, david collins <antpuncher@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 >= quarterly.
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:44 AM, j s oishi <jsoishi@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 semiannual. but if they have alliterative animal names, i'm quitting.
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Matthew Turk <matthewturk@gmail.com> wrote:
(moved to yt-dev)
Hi all,
This is a great reason to push on a more regular release schedule.
Do you think it might be worthwhile to aim for time-based releases? We've had a spring release, maybe aim for a Summer release, and then we could try to just do rolling releases like that? [+-][01] on [quarterly|semiannual|annual] releases?
-Matt
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Anthony Harness <anthony.harness@colorado.edu> wrote:
Britton,
Adding those lines works for the stable install, which I guess is maintained by Hari. My problem was running the unstable install maintained by Stephen, which he informed me does not work in parallel. As Stephen mentioned before, if Hari could update his development install, I could use that instead.
Thanks, Anthony
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