Hi everyone,
The NumFOCUS organization is a 501(c)3 dedicated to both open source scientific software and computational science education ( numfocus.org ). I have recently been named to their board of directors.
NumFOCUS supports many projects familiar to us here, including NumPy, Matplotlib, Jupyter, Astropy, and Sympy, as well as rOpenSci, Data Carpentry, Software Carpentry and Julia.
After talking this over with Britton, I would like to propose that we join NumFOCUS through a comprehensive Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement. This process is outlined here:
http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html
Organizations such as NumPy and rOpenSci have detailed their reasons for participating in this program here:
https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/
Primarily, I think that this would help with our ability to exist independently of a single investigator; grants for programs such as workshops, project infrastructure, and so on can be managed by NumFOCUS (which has low overhead) and can be affiliated with the project.
I think this is something that warrants discussion, and perhaps should be talked over in person during a team meeting, but I believe that this would be a strong step forward for us as a project and a community.
-Matt
This will also allow both individual and companies to donate (in a tax deductable way) to NumFocus explicitly to support yt development.
I think this is a great idea.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Matthew Turk matthewturk@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
The NumFOCUS organization is a 501(c)3 dedicated to both open source scientific software and computational science education ( numfocus.org ). I have recently been named to their board of directors.
NumFOCUS supports many projects familiar to us here, including NumPy, Matplotlib, Jupyter, Astropy, and Sympy, as well as rOpenSci, Data Carpentry, Software Carpentry and Julia.
After talking this over with Britton, I would like to propose that we join NumFOCUS through a comprehensive Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement. This process is outlined here:
http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html
Organizations such as NumPy and rOpenSci have detailed their reasons for participating in this program here:
https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/
Primarily, I think that this would help with our ability to exist independently of a single investigator; grants for programs such as workshops, project infrastructure, and so on can be managed by NumFOCUS (which has low overhead) and can be affiliated with the project.
I think this is something that warrants discussion, and perhaps should be talked over in person during a team meeting, but I believe that this would be a strong step forward for us as a project and a community.
-Matt
yt-dev mailing list yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org
On 01/28/2016 10:26 AM, Matthew Turk wrote:
Hi everyone,
The NumFOCUS organization is a 501(c)3 dedicated to both open source scientific software and computational science education ( numfocus.org ). I have recently been named to their board of directors.
NumFOCUS supports many projects familiar to us here, including NumPy, Matplotlib, Jupyter, Astropy, and Sympy, as well as rOpenSci, Data Carpentry, Software Carpentry and Julia.
After talking this over with Britton, I would like to propose that we join NumFOCUS through a comprehensive Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement. This process is outlined here:
http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html
Organizations such as NumPy and rOpenSci have detailed their reasons for participating in this program here:
https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/
Primarily, I think that this would help with our ability to exist independently of a single investigator; grants for programs such as workshops, project infrastructure, and so on can be managed by NumFOCUS (which has low overhead) and can be affiliated with the project.
I think this is something that warrants discussion, and perhaps should be talked over in person during a team meeting, but I believe that this would be a strong step forward for us as a project and a community.
-Matt
Hi Matt, although IANAL (especially with regard to US laws) I think FSA would be very beneficial to yt project. Count a solid +1 from me. Cheers, Kacper
+1 here too!
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Kacper Kowalik xarthisius.kk@gmail.com wrote:
On 01/28/2016 10:26 AM, Matthew Turk wrote:
Hi everyone,
The NumFOCUS organization is a 501(c)3 dedicated to both open source scientific software and computational science education ( numfocus.org ). I have recently been named to their board of directors.
NumFOCUS supports many projects familiar to us here, including NumPy, Matplotlib, Jupyter, Astropy, and Sympy, as well as rOpenSci, Data Carpentry, Software Carpentry and Julia.
After talking this over with Britton, I would like to propose that we join NumFOCUS through a comprehensive Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement. This process is outlined here:
http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html
Organizations such as NumPy and rOpenSci have detailed their reasons for participating in this program here:
https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/
Primarily, I think that this would help with our ability to exist independently of a single investigator; grants for programs such as workshops, project infrastructure, and so on can be managed by NumFOCUS (which has low overhead) and can be affiliated with the project.
I think this is something that warrants discussion, and perhaps should be talked over in person during a team meeting, but I believe that this would be a strong step forward for us as a project and a community.
-Matt
Hi Matt, although IANAL (especially with regard to US laws) I think FSA would be very beneficial to yt project. Count a solid +1 from me. Cheers, Kacper
yt-dev mailing list yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org
-- Jill P. Naiman, Ph.D. Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics jill.naiman@cfa.harvard.edu www.astroblend.com www.avriot.com
+1 here!
On Jan 28, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Jill Naiman jnaiman@gmail.com wrote:
+1 here too!
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Kacper Kowalik <xarthisius.kk@gmail.com mailto:xarthisius.kk@gmail.com> wrote: On 01/28/2016 10:26 AM, Matthew Turk wrote:
Hi everyone,
The NumFOCUS organization is a 501(c)3 dedicated to both open source scientific software and computational science education ( numfocus.org http://numfocus.org/ ). I have recently been named to their board of directors.
NumFOCUS supports many projects familiar to us here, including NumPy, Matplotlib, Jupyter, Astropy, and Sympy, as well as rOpenSci, Data Carpentry, Software Carpentry and Julia.
After talking this over with Britton, I would like to propose that we join NumFOCUS through a comprehensive Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement. This process is outlined here:
http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html
Organizations such as NumPy and rOpenSci have detailed their reasons for participating in this program here:
https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/ https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/
Primarily, I think that this would help with our ability to exist independently of a single investigator; grants for programs such as workshops, project infrastructure, and so on can be managed by NumFOCUS (which has low overhead) and can be affiliated with the project.
I think this is something that warrants discussion, and perhaps should be talked over in person during a team meeting, but I believe that this would be a strong step forward for us as a project and a community.
-Matt
Hi Matt, although IANAL (especially with regard to US laws) I think FSA would be very beneficial to yt project. Count a solid +1 from me. Cheers, Kacper
yt-dev mailing list yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org mailto:yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org
-- Jill P. Naiman, Ph.D. Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics jill.naiman@cfa.harvard.edu mailto:jill.naiman@cfa.harvard.edu www.astroblend.com http://www.astroblend.com/ www.avriot.com http://www.avriot.com/
yt-dev mailing list yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org
+1! Great too hear this!
On Jan 28, 2016, at 9:04 AM, John ZuHone jzuhone@gmail.com wrote:
+1 here!
On Jan 28, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Jill Naiman <jnaiman@gmail.com mailto:jnaiman@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 here too!
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Kacper Kowalik <xarthisius.kk@gmail.com mailto:xarthisius.kk@gmail.com> wrote: On 01/28/2016 10:26 AM, Matthew Turk wrote:
Hi everyone,
The NumFOCUS organization is a 501(c)3 dedicated to both open source scientific software and computational science education ( numfocus.org http://numfocus.org/ ). I have recently been named to their board of directors.
NumFOCUS supports many projects familiar to us here, including NumPy, Matplotlib, Jupyter, Astropy, and Sympy, as well as rOpenSci, Data Carpentry, Software Carpentry and Julia.
After talking this over with Britton, I would like to propose that we join NumFOCUS through a comprehensive Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement. This process is outlined here:
http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html
Organizations such as NumPy and rOpenSci have detailed their reasons for participating in this program here:
https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/ https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/
Primarily, I think that this would help with our ability to exist independently of a single investigator; grants for programs such as workshops, project infrastructure, and so on can be managed by NumFOCUS (which has low overhead) and can be affiliated with the project.
I think this is something that warrants discussion, and perhaps should be talked over in person during a team meeting, but I believe that this would be a strong step forward for us as a project and a community.
-Matt
Hi Matt, although IANAL (especially with regard to US laws) I think FSA would be very beneficial to yt project. Count a solid +1 from me. Cheers, Kacper
yt-dev mailing list yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org mailto:yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org
-- Jill P. Naiman, Ph.D. Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics jill.naiman@cfa.harvard.edu mailto:jill.naiman@cfa.harvard.edu www.astroblend.com http://www.astroblend.com/ www.avriot.com http://www.avriot.com/
yt-dev mailing list yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org mailto:yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org
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+1
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:06 PM Suoqing Ji suoqing@physics.ucsb.edu wrote:
+1! Great too hear this!
On Jan 28, 2016, at 9:04 AM, John ZuHone jzuhone@gmail.com wrote:
+1 here!
On Jan 28, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Jill Naiman jnaiman@gmail.com wrote:
+1 here too!
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Kacper Kowalik xarthisius.kk@gmail.com wrote:
On 01/28/2016 10:26 AM, Matthew Turk wrote:
Hi everyone,
The NumFOCUS organization is a 501(c)3 dedicated to both open source scientific software and computational science education ( numfocus.org ). I have recently been named to their board of directors.
NumFOCUS supports many projects familiar to us here, including NumPy, Matplotlib, Jupyter, Astropy, and Sympy, as well as rOpenSci, Data Carpentry, Software Carpentry and Julia.
After talking this over with Britton, I would like to propose that we join NumFOCUS through a comprehensive Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement. This process is outlined here:
http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html
Organizations such as NumPy and rOpenSci have detailed their reasons for participating in this program here:
https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/
Primarily, I think that this would help with our ability to exist independently of a single investigator; grants for programs such as workshops, project infrastructure, and so on can be managed by NumFOCUS (which has low overhead) and can be affiliated with the project.
I think this is something that warrants discussion, and perhaps should be talked over in person during a team meeting, but I believe that this would be a strong step forward for us as a project and a community.
-Matt
Hi Matt, although IANAL (especially with regard to US laws) I think FSA would be very beneficial to yt project. Count a solid +1 from me. Cheers, Kacper
yt-dev mailing list yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org
-- Jill P. Naiman, Ph.D. Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics jill.naiman@cfa.harvard.edu www.astroblend.com www.avriot.com
yt-dev mailing list yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org
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+1
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:03 AM Jeffrey S. Oishi jsoishi@gmail.com wrote:
+1
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:06 PM Suoqing Ji suoqing@physics.ucsb.edu wrote:
+1! Great too hear this!
On Jan 28, 2016, at 9:04 AM, John ZuHone jzuhone@gmail.com wrote:
+1 here!
On Jan 28, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Jill Naiman jnaiman@gmail.com wrote:
+1 here too!
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Kacper Kowalik <xarthisius.kk@gmail.com
wrote:
On 01/28/2016 10:26 AM, Matthew Turk wrote:
Hi everyone,
The NumFOCUS organization is a 501(c)3 dedicated to both open source scientific software and computational science education ( numfocus.org ). I have recently been named to their board of directors.
NumFOCUS supports many projects familiar to us here, including NumPy, Matplotlib, Jupyter, Astropy, and Sympy, as well as rOpenSci, Data Carpentry, Software Carpentry and Julia.
After talking this over with Britton, I would like to propose that we join NumFOCUS through a comprehensive Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement. This process is outlined here:
http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html
Organizations such as NumPy and rOpenSci have detailed their reasons for participating in this program here:
https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/
Primarily, I think that this would help with our ability to exist independently of a single investigator; grants for programs such as workshops, project infrastructure, and so on can be managed by NumFOCUS (which has low overhead) and can be affiliated with the project.
I think this is something that warrants discussion, and perhaps should be talked over in person during a team meeting, but I believe that this would be a strong step forward for us as a project and a community.
-Matt
Hi Matt, although IANAL (especially with regard to US laws) I think FSA would be very beneficial to yt project. Count a solid +1 from me. Cheers, Kacper
yt-dev mailing list yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org
-- Jill P. Naiman, Ph.D. Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics jill.naiman@cfa.harvard.edu www.astroblend.com www.avriot.com
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On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Sam Skillman samskillman@gmail.com wrote:
+1
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:03 AM Jeffrey S. Oishi jsoishi@gmail.com wrote:
+1
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:06 PM Suoqing Ji suoqing@physics.ucsb.edu wrote:
+1! Great too hear this!
On Jan 28, 2016, at 9:04 AM, John ZuHone jzuhone@gmail.com wrote:
+1 here!
On Jan 28, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Jill Naiman jnaiman@gmail.com wrote:
+1 here too!
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Kacper Kowalik xarthisius.kk@gmail.com wrote:
On 01/28/2016 10:26 AM, Matthew Turk wrote:
Hi everyone,
The NumFOCUS organization is a 501(c)3 dedicated to both open source scientific software and computational science education ( numfocus.org ). I have recently been named to their board of directors.
NumFOCUS supports many projects familiar to us here, including NumPy, Matplotlib, Jupyter, Astropy, and Sympy, as well as rOpenSci, Data Carpentry, Software Carpentry and Julia.
After talking this over with Britton, I would like to propose that we join NumFOCUS through a comprehensive Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement. This process is outlined here:
http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html
Organizations such as NumPy and rOpenSci have detailed their reasons for participating in this program here:
https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/
Primarily, I think that this would help with our ability to exist independently of a single investigator; grants for programs such as workshops, project infrastructure, and so on can be managed by NumFOCUS (which has low overhead) and can be affiliated with the project.
I think this is something that warrants discussion, and perhaps should be talked over in person during a team meeting, but I believe that this would be a strong step forward for us as a project and a community.
-Matt
Hi Matt, although IANAL (especially with regard to US laws) I think FSA would be very beneficial to yt project. Count a solid +1 from me. Cheers, Kacper
yt-dev mailing list yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org
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John
On 28 Jan 2016, at 14:59, Cameron Hummels chummels@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Sam Skillman samskillman@gmail.com wrote: +1
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:03 AM Jeffrey S. Oishi jsoishi@gmail.com wrote: +1
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:06 PM Suoqing Ji suoqing@physics.ucsb.edu wrote: +1! Great too hear this!
On Jan 28, 2016, at 9:04 AM, John ZuHone jzuhone@gmail.com wrote:
+1 here!
On Jan 28, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Jill Naiman jnaiman@gmail.com wrote:
+1 here too!
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Kacper Kowalik xarthisius.kk@gmail.com wrote: On 01/28/2016 10:26 AM, Matthew Turk wrote:
Hi everyone,
The NumFOCUS organization is a 501(c)3 dedicated to both open source scientific software and computational science education ( numfocus.org ). I have recently been named to their board of directors.
NumFOCUS supports many projects familiar to us here, including NumPy, Matplotlib, Jupyter, Astropy, and Sympy, as well as rOpenSci, Data Carpentry, Software Carpentry and Julia.
After talking this over with Britton, I would like to propose that we join NumFOCUS through a comprehensive Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement. This process is outlined here:
http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html
Organizations such as NumPy and rOpenSci have detailed their reasons for participating in this program here:
https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/
Primarily, I think that this would help with our ability to exist independently of a single investigator; grants for programs such as workshops, project infrastructure, and so on can be managed by NumFOCUS (which has low overhead) and can be affiliated with the project.
I think this is something that warrants discussion, and perhaps should be talked over in person during a team meeting, but I believe that this would be a strong step forward for us as a project and a community.
-Matt
Hi Matt, although IANAL (especially with regard to US laws) I think FSA would be very beneficial to yt project. Count a solid +1 from me. Cheers, Kacper
yt-dev mailing list yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org
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+1
This seems like a great idea to me. There's one thing that I'm really curious about: can we use grant money to contribute to the yt project through this mechanism? Essentially my entire research group now depends on yt for analysis and visualization of our simulations, and I know that's now true for a lot of people. I really want to directly support core infrastructure development, and would be happy to write line-items into all of my grants (in the way that one would ask for grant money for a laptop for a grad student, HPC buy-in, or an outreach assessment consultant) to provide some recurring funding to the yt project. This would both directly help the project by contributing to salaries, workshops, etc., and indirectly help by communicating to federal agencies that this is an important and widely valued endeavor. But, I have no idea if people have used grant money in this way, or if it is even allowable under NSF/NASA/DOE regulations. Matt, do you have any sense of this?
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Matthew Turk matthewturk@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
The NumFOCUS organization is a 501(c)3 dedicated to both open source scientific software and computational science education ( numfocus.org ). I have recently been named to their board of directors.
NumFOCUS supports many projects familiar to us here, including NumPy, Matplotlib, Jupyter, Astropy, and Sympy, as well as rOpenSci, Data Carpentry, Software Carpentry and Julia.
After talking this over with Britton, I would like to propose that we join NumFOCUS through a comprehensive Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement. This process is outlined here:
http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html
Organizations such as NumPy and rOpenSci have detailed their reasons for participating in this program here:
https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/
Primarily, I think that this would help with our ability to exist independently of a single investigator; grants for programs such as workshops, project infrastructure, and so on can be managed by NumFOCUS (which has low overhead) and can be affiliated with the project.
I think this is something that warrants discussion, and perhaps should be talked over in person during a team meeting, but I believe that this would be a strong step forward for us as a project and a community.
-Matt
yt-dev mailing list yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org
Hi Brian,
I don't have much of a sense of this, specifically with respect to NSF/NASA/DOE. Private foundations and corporations have contributed to NumFOCUS, as you can see on the main website. My suspicion is that the holdup would probably be the university that enters into the agreement with NSF/NASA/DOE rather than on the NumFOCUS side.
Additionally, at the present, I don't anticipate we would want to fund salaries through NumFOCUS, although it isn't my role to say whether we would or not. Partial support for workshops and for infrastructure, yes, but I think supporting a couple folks to attend a workshop is a different story than salaries, unless they were for fixed-term contracts or for summer programs and the like.
-Matt
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 6:11 AM, Brian O'Shea bwoshea@gmail.com wrote:
+1
This seems like a great idea to me. There's one thing that I'm really curious about: can we use grant money to contribute to the yt project through this mechanism? Essentially my entire research group now depends on yt for analysis and visualization of our simulations, and I know that's now true for a lot of people. I really want to directly support core infrastructure development, and would be happy to write line-items into all of my grants (in the way that one would ask for grant money for a laptop for a grad student, HPC buy-in, or an outreach assessment consultant) to provide some recurring funding to the yt project. This would both directly help the project by contributing to salaries, workshops, etc., and indirectly help by communicating to federal agencies that this is an important and widely valued endeavor. But, I have no idea if people have used grant money in this way, or if it is even allowable under NSF/NASA/DOE regulations. Matt, do you have any sense of this?
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Matthew Turk matthewturk@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
The NumFOCUS organization is a 501(c)3 dedicated to both open source scientific software and computational science education ( numfocus.org ). I have recently been named to their board of directors.
NumFOCUS supports many projects familiar to us here, including NumPy, Matplotlib, Jupyter, Astropy, and Sympy, as well as rOpenSci, Data Carpentry, Software Carpentry and Julia.
After talking this over with Britton, I would like to propose that we join NumFOCUS through a comprehensive Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement. This process is outlined here:
http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html
Organizations such as NumPy and rOpenSci have detailed their reasons for participating in this program here:
https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/
Primarily, I think that this would help with our ability to exist independently of a single investigator; grants for programs such as workshops, project infrastructure, and so on can be managed by NumFOCUS (which has low overhead) and can be affiliated with the project.
I think this is something that warrants discussion, and perhaps should be talked over in person during a team meeting, but I believe that this would be a strong step forward for us as a project and a community.
-Matt
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Matt, I like the idea of numfocus supoort -- I've contributed to them personally over the past few years, and I would be happy to direct some of that to yt as well. I highly doubt you can donate off of a grant though (as Brian asked). That doesn't seem right, but you might be able to ask your University to donate some to recognize the value you get from the projects (sort of like paying for licensing fees for commercial software that they already do). (Back in the day I remember our University would buy some RedHat distributions directly). Also, you could probably pay for a summer student off of a grant to work on improving yt vis capabilities for your grant-funded research -- that would put the student directly into your workflow and have them doing actual science with you.
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Matthew Turk matthewturk@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Brian,
I don't have much of a sense of this, specifically with respect to NSF/NASA/DOE. Private foundations and corporations have contributed to NumFOCUS, as you can see on the main website. My suspicion is that the holdup would probably be the university that enters into the agreement with NSF/NASA/DOE rather than on the NumFOCUS side.
Additionally, at the present, I don't anticipate we would want to fund salaries through NumFOCUS, although it isn't my role to say whether we would or not. Partial support for workshops and for infrastructure, yes, but I think supporting a couple folks to attend a workshop is a different story than salaries, unless they were for fixed-term contracts or for summer programs and the like.
-Matt
On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 6:11 AM, Brian O'Shea bwoshea@gmail.com wrote:
+1
This seems like a great idea to me. There's one thing that I'm really curious about: can we use grant money to contribute to the yt project through this mechanism? Essentially my entire research group now depends on yt for analysis and visualization of our simulations, and I know that's now true for a lot of people. I really want to directly support core infrastructure development, and would be happy to write line-items into all of my grants (in the way that one would ask for grant money for a laptop for a grad student, HPC buy-in, or an outreach assessment consultant) to provide some recurring funding to the yt project. This would both directly help the project by contributing to salaries, workshops, etc., and indirectly help by communicating to federal agencies that this is an important and widely valued endeavor. But, I have no idea if people have used grant money in this way, or if it is even allowable under NSF/NASA/DOE regulations. Matt, do you have any sense of this?
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Matthew Turk matthewturk@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
The NumFOCUS organization is a 501(c)3 dedicated to both open source scientific software and computational science education ( numfocus.org ). I have recently been named to their board of directors.
NumFOCUS supports many projects familiar to us here, including NumPy, Matplotlib, Jupyter, Astropy, and Sympy, as well as rOpenSci, Data Carpentry, Software Carpentry and Julia.
After talking this over with Britton, I would like to propose that we join NumFOCUS through a comprehensive Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement. This process is outlined here:
http://www.numfocus.org/apply-for-fiscal-sponsorship.html
Organizations such as NumPy and rOpenSci have detailed their reasons for participating in this program here:
https://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/2015-October/073926.html https://ropensci.org/blog/2014/10/01/numfocus-partnership/
Primarily, I think that this would help with our ability to exist independently of a single investigator; grants for programs such as workshops, project infrastructure, and so on can be managed by NumFOCUS (which has low overhead) and can be affiliated with the project.
I think this is something that warrants discussion, and perhaps should be talked over in person during a team meeting, but I believe that this would be a strong step forward for us as a project and a community.
-Matt
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