Ah! That's perfect. And I thought you needed an Apple Developer account for XCode -- but perhaps I am mistaken. (Going off a report I received earlier.) Providing the alternate for GCC on hpc.sourceforge.net should be sufficient. Thanks, Chris! On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Chris Malone wrote:

Hi Matt,

Are you referring to Xcode stuff? I don't think you need an Apple Developer account for that.

I usually get my GNU compilers from the HPC Sourceforge page: http://hpc.sourceforge.net/

What else do you need?

Chris

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Hi all,

Does anybody know of a way to get the necessary compiler toolchain for yt on OSX without filling out an Apple Developer account?

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I can report that I was unable to build scipy last week with the version of gfortran provided by the hpc site. I'm not sure about the full version of gcc that they have available. I was finally able to build scipy with the version of gfortran available from the R for Mac OS X page: http://r.research.att.com/tools/ On 10/11/12 9:05 PM, Casey W. Stark wrote:

I've had problems with the hpc for Mac compilers. I'm on my phone so I can't check this but I remember certain builds failing because they expect the apple specific gcc flags. I can check tomorrow. I also remember Xcode 3 packages floating around outside the apple developer site.

- Casey

On Thursday, October 11, 2012, Matthew Turk wrote:

Ah! That's perfect. And I thought you needed an Apple Developer account for XCode -- but perhaps I am mistaken. (Going off a report I received earlier.) Providing the alternate for GCC on hpc.sourceforge.net http://hpc.sourceforge.net should be sufficient. Thanks, Chris!

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Chris Malone javascript:;> wrote: > Hi Matt, > > Are you referring to Xcode stuff? I don't think you need an Apple Developer > account for that. > > I usually get my GNU compilers from the HPC Sourceforge page: > http://hpc.sourceforge.net/ > > What else do you need? > > Chris > > On Oct 11, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Matthew Turk wrote: > > Hi all, > > Does anybody know of a way to get the necessary compiler toolchain for > yt on OSX without filling out an Apple Developer account? > > -Matt > _______________________________________________ > yt-dev mailing list > yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org javascript:; > http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Chris Malone (malone@ucolick.org javascript:;) > > Dept. of Astronomy and Astrophysics > UC Santa Cruz > 1156 High Street > Santa Cruz, CA 95064-1077 > > phone: 831-459-3809 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > yt-dev mailing list > yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org javascript:; > http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org > _______________________________________________ yt-dev mailing list yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org javascript:; http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org

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If you have OS X 10.7.3 or later, you can download the command line tools (gcc, etc.) without XCode: http://osxdaily.com/2012/07/06/install-gcc-without-xcode-in-mac-os-x/ Still need an Apple ID, but it is free. You might have better luck this way. On Oct 12, 2012, at 10:56 AM, "Casey W. Stark" wrote:

I was unable to find an xcode install for mac os x 10.6 without going to the developer site. If you have a newer version of os x, you might be able to get it in the app store, but I'm not sure how different the apple id and developer id thing are. My accounts look the same anyway.

As for hpc for mac, I confirmed that I cannot build scipy. xcode 3.6.2 works, but when I use the hpc gcc and g77, I get:

error: Command "gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -dynamic -arch i386 -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -arch i386 -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk -I/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/7.3/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/core/include -c scipy/optimize/Zeros/ridder.c -o build/temp.macosx-10.5-i386-2.7/scipy/optimize/Zeros/ridder.o" failed with exit status 1

The one last option I can think of is the macports gcc packages. I have never tried them, but a friend mentioned that someone got gcc >4.2 built with the apple flags and has had success with them.

Whatever the answer is, they sure aren't making it easy. Really makes me want to leave developing on a mac...

- Casey

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Nathan Goldbaum wrote: I can report that I was unable to build scipy last week with the version of gfortran provided by the hpc site. I'm not sure about the full version of gcc that they have available.

I was finally able to build scipy with the version of gfortran available from the R for Mac OS X page: http://r.research.att.com/tools/

On 10/11/12 9:05 PM, Casey W. Stark wrote: I've had problems with the hpc for Mac compilers. I'm on my phone so I can't check this but I remember certain builds failing because they expect the apple specific gcc flags. I can check tomorrow. I also remember Xcode 3 packages floating around outside the apple developer site.

- Casey

On Thursday, October 11, 2012, Matthew Turk wrote:

Ah! That's perfect. And I thought you needed an Apple Developer account for XCode -- but perhaps I am mistaken. (Going off a report I received earlier.) Providing the alternate for GCC on hpc.sourceforge.net http://hpc.sourceforge.net should be

sufficient. Thanks, Chris!

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Chris Malone javascript:;> wrote: > Hi Matt, > > Are you referring to Xcode stuff? I don't think you need an Apple Developer > account for that. > > I usually get my GNU compilers from the HPC Sourceforge page: > http://hpc.sourceforge.net/ > > What else do you need? > > Chris > > On Oct 11, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Matthew Turk wrote: > > Hi all, > > Does anybody know of a way to get the necessary compiler toolchain for > yt on OSX without filling out an Apple Developer account? > > -Matt > _______________________________________________ > yt-dev mailing list > yt-dev@lists.spacepope.org javascript:; > http://lists.spacepope.org/listinfo.cgi/yt-dev-spacepope.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Chris Malone (malone@ucolick.org javascript:;)

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Hi All, This discussion came about because I am working with three high school students here at AMNH this year. I want them to use yt, and the program that they are in has a series of shared Mac laptops. This program, like many educational programs, does not have a large budget, and thus these machines are a number of years old. They run 10.6.8, and I needed to install XCode. Unfortunately, I could not have the students do this themselves, because in order to download XCode (so far as I could find) for older OSs, you must have an Apple Developer account, which requires that you are over 18. Thus I had to register myself and download it for them. This is not a severe hardship by any means, but it does seem to be contrary to the principles I would like to instil in budding scientists/coders. Thanks for all your answers! j On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Casey W. Stark wrote:

I was unable to find an xcode install for mac os x 10.6 without going to the developer site. If you have a newer version of os x, you might be able to get it in the app store, but I'm not sure how different the apple id and developer id thing are. My accounts look the same anyway.

As for hpc for mac, I confirmed that I cannot build scipy. xcode 3.6.2 works, but when I use the hpc gcc and g77, I get:

error: Command "gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -dynamic -arch i386 -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -arch i386 -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk -I/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/7.3/lib/python2.7/site-packages/numpy/core/include -c scipy/optimize/Zeros/ridder.c -o build/temp.macosx-10.5-i386-2.7/scipy/optimize/Zeros/ridder.o" failed with exit status 1

The one last option I can think of is the macports gcc packages. I have never tried them, but a friend mentioned that someone got gcc >4.2 built with the apple flags and has had success with them.

Whatever the answer is, they sure aren't making it easy. Really makes me want to leave developing on a mac...

- Casey

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Nathan Goldbaum wrote:

...

I can report that I was unable to build scipy last week with the version of gfortran provided by the hpc site. I'm not sure about the full version of gcc that they have available.

I was finally able to build scipy with the version of gfortran available from the R for Mac OS X page: http://r.research.att.com/tools/

On 10/11/12 9:05 PM, Casey W. Stark wrote:

...

I've had problems with the hpc for Mac compilers. I'm on my phone so I can't check this but I remember certain builds failing because they expect the apple specific gcc flags. I can check tomorrow. I also remember Xcode 3 packages floating around outside the apple developer site.

- Casey

On Thursday, October 11, 2012, Matthew Turk wrote:

Ah! That's perfect. And I thought you needed an Apple Developer account for XCode -- but perhaps I am mistaken. (Going off a report I received earlier.) Providing the alternate for GCC on hpc.sourceforge.net http://hpc.sourceforge.net should be

sufficient. Thanks, Chris!

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