[AstroPy] ratholes

Thomas Robitaille thomas.robitaille at gmail.com
Thu Jun 16 13:15:25 EDT 2011

I also agree with Mark.

As I mentioned before, I view these are completely unrelated
discussions. The packaging discussion is relevant for existing
packages, not just for this 'common package idea'. I tried to clarify
this at the start of the 'distribution' wiki page:

"This page keeps track of the various options with pros/cons for
packaging python Astronomy modules. The common astronomy package
discussed elsewhere should be installable in the standard Pythonic
way, so the packaging discussion can be kept separate: it applies
whether or not the common astronomy package sees the light of day.
There is nothing to exclude multiple distribution channels for
astronomy software (e.g. package managers, all-in-one), but at least
we should agree on what these options are."

So I think it's ok for people to discuss packaging options, and how to
help beginners get set up, so long as people realize this is separate
from the issue of a common Python package. In the end, the common
package will just be another standard Python package (or packages)
that can fit in to any of the distribution channels.

Once we know who's interested in moderating the discussions (after
this evening), we can start that discussion in earnest about what
astrolib/astropy should be and make progress in that direction.


On 16 June 2011 12:50, Mark Sienkiewicz <sienkiew at stsci.edu> wrote:
> I note that the discussion of packaging has completely displaced any
> discussion of what astropy is, what it does, or what might be included.
> I also note that the packaging mechanism does not matter if we have no
> software to package.  Let me offer this:
> - astropy can be installed with "python setup.py install".
> - astropy can be installed with "pip install astropy".
> - Anything that can be installed via those methods can also be
> distributed via _any_ of the other packaging mechanisms under
> discussion, subject to someone committing to routinely perform the
> packaging work at each release.
> I suggest that we declare these three statements as "good enough for
> now" and get back to answering the question "What is astropy?"
> Mark S.
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