From abpillai at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 10:18:24 2007 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:48:24 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Testing the list Message-ID: <8548c5f30709140118t7eaf44b8y995d5a9073300018@mail.gmail.com> Testing the list. Please ignore... Thanks -- -Anand From stylesen at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 10:22:09 2007 From: stylesen at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran S) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:52:09 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Why is Bangpypers list private? Message-ID: <5ef2113c0709140122m977e1beob6ca34b56d37668@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I would like to know, why bangpypers list in http://mail.python.org/mailman/ is marked as a private list? Is there any specific reason? If not, We need to make the list as a public list, since anyone who wants to join the list must be able to do so after browsing through the archives. Also it is good to open our list for search engines :) -- Senthil Kumaran S http://www.stylesen.org From abpillai at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 10:24:46 2007 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:54:46 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Testing the list In-Reply-To: <46EA4457.2060309@silverstripesoftware.com> References: <8548c5f30709140118t7eaf44b8y995d5a9073300018@mail.gmail.com> <46EA4457.2060309@silverstripesoftware.com> Message-ID: <8548c5f30709140124n4feb0d87g80429585d86f8ec1@mail.gmail.com> On 9/14/07, Siddharta Govindaraj wrote: > Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > > Testing the list. Please ignore... > > > > Thanks > > > > > Is there a way to change the email address apart from unsubscribing and > resubscribing? Nothing I know of. If you want to change your subscription email address, please send me a mail citing your current address and the new address. I will change it for you immediately. > > -- > Siddharta Govindaraj > -- -Anand From abpillai at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 10:29:54 2007 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:59:54 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Why is Bangpypers list private? In-Reply-To: <5ef2113c0709140122m977e1beob6ca34b56d37668@mail.gmail.com> References: <5ef2113c0709140122m977e1beob6ca34b56d37668@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8548c5f30709140129p419dc716uacaa69d747bd2876@mail.gmail.com> Excuse me for top posting :) Sen, this was because Jeff created it like that. I have changed it so that the list is visible to anyone, not just the members. However email addresses will be slightly obfuscated so that we don't expose ourselves to spamming. --Anand On 9/14/07, Senthil Kumaran S wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to know, why bangpypers list in > http://mail.python.org/mailman/ is marked as a private list? Is there > any specific reason? If not, We need to make the list as a public > list, since anyone who wants to join the list must be able to do so > after browsing through the archives. Also it is good to open our list > for search engines :) > > -- > Senthil Kumaran S > http://www.stylesen.org > _______________________________________________ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- -Anand From stylesen at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 10:32:50 2007 From: stylesen at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran S) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:02:50 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Testing the list In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30709140124n4feb0d87g80429585d86f8ec1@mail.gmail.com> References: <8548c5f30709140118t7eaf44b8y995d5a9073300018@mail.gmail.com> <46EA4457.2060309@silverstripesoftware.com> <8548c5f30709140124n4feb0d87g80429585d86f8ec1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5ef2113c0709140132l281df23dqb0bb08ba621b191e@mail.gmail.com> On 9/14/07, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > On 9/14/07, Siddharta Govindaraj wrote: > > Is there a way to change the email address apart from unsubscribing and > > resubscribing? > > Nothing I know of. If you want to change your subscription email address, > please send me a mail citing your current address and the new address. > I will change it for you immediately. Since the new bangpypers list runs on mailman, there is a way. AFAIK, If you are able to login into your account with your current email id and password in http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers, there is an option to change your email id and name. -- Senthil Kumaran S http://www.stylesen.org From stylesen at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 10:34:17 2007 From: stylesen at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran S) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:04:17 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Why is Bangpypers list private? In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30709140129p419dc716uacaa69d747bd2876@mail.gmail.com> References: <5ef2113c0709140122m977e1beob6ca34b56d37668@mail.gmail.com> <8548c5f30709140129p419dc716uacaa69d747bd2876@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5ef2113c0709140134u2074d126y5a97114524d76d19@mail.gmail.com> On 9/14/07, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > Sen, this was because Jeff created it like that. I have changed > it so that the list is visible to anyone, not just the members. Thank you for that :) > However email addresses will be slightly obfuscated so that > we don't expose ourselves to spamming. Yeah, this is important. -- Senthil Kumaran S http://www.stylesen.org From abpillai at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 10:37:24 2007 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:07:24 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Why is Bangpypers list private? In-Reply-To: <81033E9CB8B5E54F95356B223C213B7701101A8E@blrx3m02.blr.amer.dell.com> References: <5ef2113c0709140122m977e1beob6ca34b56d37668@mail.gmail.com> <81033E9CB8B5E54F95356B223C213B7701101A8E@blrx3m02.blr.amer.dell.com> Message-ID: <8548c5f30709140137t48109c50h83ae33874d04a418@mail.gmail.com> On 9/14/07, Seshadri_N at dell.com wrote: > Nice to see BangPypers on Python.org :) > > Thanks to Anand and Congrats to all ! > > Will it be possible to archive discussion threads from yahoo groups and > post it on to python.org mailing list ? I will get to this in a few days. Currently I am going to set it so that messages are forwarded. I am getting used to mailman myself so this might take some time :-) > > Thx, > seShadri > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bangpypers-bounces at python.org > [mailto:bangpypers-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Senthil Kumaran S > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 1:52 PM > To: bangpypers at python.org > Subject: [BangPypers] Why is Bangpypers list private? > > Hi, > > I would like to know, why bangpypers list in > http://mail.python.org/mailman/ is marked as a private list? Is there > any specific reason? If not, We need to make the list as a public list, > since anyone who wants to join the list must be able to do so after > browsing through the archives. Also it is good to open our list for > search engines :) > > -- > Senthil Kumaran S > http://www.stylesen.org > _______________________________________________ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- -Anand From Seshadri_N at Dell.com Fri Sep 14 10:27:19 2007 From: Seshadri_N at Dell.com (Seshadri_N at Dell.com) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:57:19 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Why is Bangpypers list private? In-Reply-To: <5ef2113c0709140122m977e1beob6ca34b56d37668@mail.gmail.com> References: <5ef2113c0709140122m977e1beob6ca34b56d37668@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <81033E9CB8B5E54F95356B223C213B7701101A8E@blrx3m02.blr.amer.dell.com> Nice to see BangPypers on Python.org :) Thanks to Anand and Congrats to all ! Will it be possible to archive discussion threads from yahoo groups and post it on to python.org mailing list ? Thx, seShadri -----Original Message----- From: bangpypers-bounces at python.org [mailto:bangpypers-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Senthil Kumaran S Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 1:52 PM To: bangpypers at python.org Subject: [BangPypers] Why is Bangpypers list private? Hi, I would like to know, why bangpypers list in http://mail.python.org/mailman/ is marked as a private list? Is there any specific reason? If not, We need to make the list as a public list, since anyone who wants to join the list must be able to do so after browsing through the archives. Also it is good to open our list for search engines :) -- Senthil Kumaran S http://www.stylesen.org _______________________________________________ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers From abpillai at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 10:42:42 2007 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:12:42 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Testing the list In-Reply-To: <5ef2113c0709140132l281df23dqb0bb08ba621b191e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8548c5f30709140118t7eaf44b8y995d5a9073300018@mail.gmail.com> <46EA4457.2060309@silverstripesoftware.com> <8548c5f30709140124n4feb0d87g80429585d86f8ec1@mail.gmail.com> <5ef2113c0709140132l281df23dqb0bb08ba621b191e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8548c5f30709140142u4faa793cid02bf5b0ddd864da@mail.gmail.com> On 9/14/07, Senthil Kumaran S wrote: > > Since the new bangpypers list runs on mailman, there is a way. AFAIK, > If you are able to login into your account with your current email id > and password in http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers, > there is an option to change your email id and name. Yes. I guess so. Try this out... Go to http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/bangpypers/ . You will be asked to log in. Once you log in, you should get a change email address option to change your email address. For example, for me the URL would be http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/bangpypers/abpillai at gmail.com > > -- > Senthil Kumaran S > http://www.stylesen.org > Let me know if this works. -- -Anand From rmathews at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 10:11:36 2007 From: rmathews at gmail.com (Roshan Mathews) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:41:36 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Neat Message-ID: <1c4dc2780709140111k24a34f91vc17ff3631e0d7baa@mail.gmail.com> Good job, whoever got this done. :) -- Roshan Mathews From orsenthil at gmail.com Sat Sep 15 07:30:01 2007 From: orsenthil at gmail.com (O.R.Senthil Kumaran) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:00:01 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Choosing an Editor for Python ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070915053001.GB4827@gmail.com> * David [2007-09-15 03:22:13]: > I need to ask what editors the group recommends for python program > files. Any editor that supports Python Indentationa and the list is available here: http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors If you have already installed Python, look out for IDLE and start from that. That could your editor to start with. Later you can move to more powerful editors. > Will MS Word do the trick or is there a Editor that is better to work > with. Don't do that mistake. MS Word is a word-processor, i.e for highlighting words, underlining etc, not an editor and moreover will not support Python identation by default. -- O.R.Senthil Kumaran http://uthcode.sarovar.org From pradeep at btbytes.com Sat Sep 15 09:24:09 2007 From: pradeep at btbytes.com (Pradeep Gowda) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:54:09 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Choosing an Editor for Python ??? In-Reply-To: <6A3A643C-3F9C-4E98-B93F-836F5560E2F0@thenilgiris.com> References: <6A3A643C-3F9C-4E98-B93F-836F5560E2F0@thenilgiris.com> Message-ID: <3e3294b70709150024w2110c739v1fb319332d70498b@mail.gmail.com> On 9/15/07, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > On 15-Sep-07, at 8:52 AM, David wrote: > > > I need to ask what editors the group recommends for python program > > files. > > > > Will MS Word do the trick or is there a Editor that is better to work > > with. Assuming that you were not joking when you mentioned MS word :), I must assume that you are a newbie to programming. If you are on windows, you might be better off with Python-win32, which gives a nice editor with syntax highlight, code folding, etc. (Free) Pywin32 uses Scintilla library to do the above mentioned tricks. SciTE is a very lightweight editor <1MB with excellent support for python. Scite also uses scintilla. You can write program in SciTE and run it interactively by pressing F5 and see the results in a split pane. I have used it for a long time till I left windowz. Eric3 looks feature rich, but I always found all the menus and toolbars more of a distraction. Vi and Emacs (esp emacs) rock if you are a linux head. But then, Vi and Emacs needs a life-style change to get used to ... heh heh... Oh, I currently use Textmate on my spanky new mac. Still trying to un-map my fingers from the emacs bindings though. So, on windows newbie - win32py or scite master - ?? (will any *master* use windows? ) [If you are a eclipse user you can try pydev. It has a good set of features and is attractive for people who are already used to the eclipse ecosystem.] Linux - newbie - kate, gedit --> eric3 master - vi/emacs Mac - TextMate FTW! -Pradeep Home - http://btbytes.com Heart - http://sampada.net Yummy! - http://konkanirecipes.com From abpillai at gmail.com Sat Sep 15 10:09:15 2007 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:39:15 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Choosing an Editor for Python ??? In-Reply-To: <3e3294b70709150024w2110c739v1fb319332d70498b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6A3A643C-3F9C-4E98-B93F-836F5560E2F0@thenilgiris.com> <3e3294b70709150024w2110c739v1fb319332d70498b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8548c5f30709150109x5c861efbxd09b64984b6e8c07@mail.gmail.com> Folks, Please stop using the Yahoo! group and edit the BangPypers address in your addressbook to poin to bangpypers at python.org . It would be a difficult job to copy all messages from this list to the new one. If the members can start posting to the new list, we can avoid extra work. Regards --Anand On 9/15/07, Pradeep Gowda wrote: > On 9/15/07, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > > > On 15-Sep-07, at 8:52 AM, David wrote: > > > > > I need to ask what editors the group recommends for python program > > > files. > > > > > > Will MS Word do the trick or is there a Editor that is better to work > > > with. > Assuming that you were not joking when you mentioned MS word :), I > must assume that you are a newbie to programming. > > If you are on windows, you might be better off with Python-win32, > which gives a nice editor with syntax highlight, code folding, etc. > (Free) > > Pywin32 uses Scintilla library to do the above mentioned tricks. SciTE > is a very lightweight editor <1MB with excellent support for python. > Scite also uses scintilla. > > You can write program in SciTE and run it interactively by pressing F5 > and see the results in a split pane. I have used it for a long time > till I left windowz. > > Eric3 looks feature rich, but I always found all the menus and > toolbars more of a distraction. > > Vi and Emacs (esp emacs) rock if you are a linux head. But then, Vi > and Emacs needs a life-style change to get used to ... heh heh... > > Oh, I currently use Textmate on my spanky new mac. Still trying to > un-map my fingers from the emacs bindings though. > > So, on windows > newbie - win32py or scite > master - ?? (will any *master* use windows? ) > [If you are a eclipse user you can try pydev. It has a good set of > features and is attractive for people who are already used to the > eclipse ecosystem.] > > Linux - > newbie - kate, gedit --> eric3 > master - vi/emacs > > Mac - > TextMate FTW! > > -Pradeep > > Home - http://btbytes.com > Heart - http://sampada.net > Yummy! - http://konkanirecipes.com > _______________________________________________ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- -Anand From abpillai at gmail.com Sat Sep 15 10:22:39 2007 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:52:39 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Choosing an Editor for Python ??? In-Reply-To: <3e3294b70709150024w2110c739v1fb319332d70498b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6A3A643C-3F9C-4E98-B93F-836F5560E2F0@thenilgiris.com> <3e3294b70709150024w2110c739v1fb319332d70498b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8548c5f30709150122l249b3446v4e97579f1c1db20@mail.gmail.com> On 9/15/07, Pradeep Gowda wrote: > On 9/15/07, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > > > On 15-Sep-07, at 8:52 AM, David wrote: > > > > > I need to ask what editors the group recommends for python program > > > files. > > > > > > Will MS Word do the trick or is there a Editor that is better to work > > > with. > Assuming that you were not joking when you mentioned MS word :), I > must assume that you are a newbie to programming. > > If you are on windows, you might be better off with Python-win32, > which gives a nice editor with syntax highlight, code folding, etc. > (Free) > > Pywin32 uses Scintilla library to do the above mentioned tricks. SciTE > is a very lightweight editor <1MB with excellent support for python. > Scite also uses scintilla. > > You can write program in SciTE and run it interactively by pressing F5 > and see the results in a split pane. I have used it for a long time > till I left windowz. > > Eric3 looks feature rich, but I always found all the menus and > toolbars more of a distraction. > > Vi and Emacs (esp emacs) rock if you are a linux head. But then, Vi > and Emacs needs a life-style change to get used to ... heh heh... > > Oh, I currently use Textmate on my spanky new mac. Still trying to > un-map my fingers from the emacs bindings though. > > So, on windows > newbie - win32py or scite > master - ?? (will any *master* use windows? ) > [If you are a eclipse user you can try pydev. It has a good set of > features and is attractive for people who are already used to the > eclipse ecosystem.] > > Linux - > newbie - kate, gedit --> eric3 > master - vi/emacs There is an excellent X-platform Python editor named Spe (Stani's Python Editor) which is written in Python using wxPython. It has all the features of a commercial editor such as autocompletion, autoindentation, syntax highighting, class explorer and a powerful feature for advanced Python programmers -> It can generate UML diagrams automatically from your source code which can be exported in multiple formats. It even works from a USB drive :-) I used it to great effect while in SpikeSource, my previous company. Highly recommended. Read an article on this editor here => http://www.linux.com/articles/56305?tid=109&tid=138 > > Mac - > TextMate FTW! > > -Pradeep > > Home - http://btbytes.com > Heart - http://sampada.net > Yummy! - http://konkanirecipes.com > _______________________________________________ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- --Anand From skpatel20 at hotmail.com Sat Sep 15 10:42:45 2007 From: skpatel20 at hotmail.com (Sanjaya Kumar Patel) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:12:45 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Choosing an Editor for Python ??? In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30709150122l249b3446v4e97579f1c1db20@mail.gmail.com> References: <6A3A643C-3F9C-4E98-B93F-836F5560E2F0@thenilgiris.com> <3e3294b70709150024w2110c739v1fb319332d70498b@mail.gmail.com> <8548c5f30709150122l249b3446v4e97579f1c1db20@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I use Eclipse with the following extensions: PyDev, Amateras HTML Editor, Subclipse. All these free tools gives me the feel of a nice IDE for developing moderately complex Python (Turbogears) applications. Sanjay _________________________________________________________________ Download the latest version of Windows Live Messenger NOW! http://get.live.com/en-ie/messenger/overview From orsenthil at gmail.com Sat Sep 15 14:33:35 2007 From: orsenthil at gmail.com (O.R.Senthil Kumaran) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:03:35 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Choosing an Editor for Python ??? In-Reply-To: References: <6A3A643C-3F9C-4E98-B93F-836F5560E2F0@thenilgiris.com> <3e3294b70709150024w2110c739v1fb319332d70498b@mail.gmail.com> <8548c5f30709150122l249b3446v4e97579f1c1db20@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070915123334.GA3607@gmail.com> > > I use Eclipse with the following extensions: PyDev, Amateras HTML Editor, Subclipse. All these free tools gives me the feel of a nice IDE for developing moderately complex Python (Turbogears) applications. Guys, all this and well, but it does not look like we are helping the newbie who wanted to use MS-Word as his Python editor. Lets just ask him to start with IDLE or PythonWin and then come back to any of the suggestions. Original Poster: Please dont get confused by so many suggestions. 1) As IDLE is already installed on your system when you installed Python. Start with that. 2) If you installed python through ActiveState distribution, start with PythonWin (You will find a shortcut in your Start->Programs->Python25). THEN, come back to this discussion and read the posts. You will find a good editor suggestion suitable to your needs. Welcome! -- O.R.Senthil Kumaran http://uthcode.sarovar.org From vimalmenon at yahoo.com Sat Sep 15 18:56:21 2007 From: vimalmenon at yahoo.com (Vimal Menon) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [BangPypers] Re:Choosing an Editor for Python ??? Message-ID: <305362.14780.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, Stany's Python Editor (SPE) is easy and comfortable for beginners, its wonderful :) . WingIDE is also good, but its not free :). I use vi though, vi has nice little tricks which keeps on amusing me and keep me attached to vi. On Windows system I love to use UltraEdit(not free), it is very powerful and memory efficient (better than vi ;) .. hehe my assumption) and also has a python extension (syntax highlight). UltraEdit also works fine through WINE in linux. Regards, Vimal ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/attachments/20070915/818f7b2b/attachment.htm From abpillai at gmail.com Sun Sep 16 13:42:29 2007 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:12:29 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Choosing an Editor for Python ??? In-Reply-To: <305362.14780.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <305362.14780.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8548c5f30709160442s55f16343ra497d3664a3b280b@mail.gmail.com> On 9/15/07, Vimal Menon wrote: > > Hi, > > Stany's Python Editor (SPE) is easy and comfortable for beginners, its > wonderful :) . WingIDE is also good, but its not free :). I use vi though, > vi has nice little tricks which keeps on amusing me and keep me attached to > vi. On Windows system I love to use UltraEdit(not free), it is very powerful > and memory efficient (better than vi ;) .. hehe my assumption) and also has > a python extension (syntax highlight). UltraEdit also works fine through > WINE in linux. > Not meant to start Emacs - vi flame wars ! Though I mentioned SPE, I normally use Emacs for everything unless I want some quick trick like generating UML on the fly from code. However I am an emacs veteran with an experience of using it and customizing it with elisp for last 13 years. Definitely not meant for the newbie :) > Regards, > Vimal > > > > ________________________________ > Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, > and more! > _______________________________________________ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > -- -Anand From sriramv_iyer at yahoo.com Mon Sep 17 03:59:57 2007 From: sriramv_iyer at yahoo.com (Sriram V Iyer) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 18:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [BangPypers] Choosing an Editor for Python ??? In-Reply-To: <305362.14780.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <437077.4508.qm@web43137.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Oops - I just realized I was posting it in Yahoo Group instead of Python mailing list... I have pasted my reply in Yahoo Group below. Btw, I am surprised nobody mentioned PyScripter :o [Am I the only one loving it? ^^ ] Ray: If you are really serious into programming, promise us, you'll never ever think of MS Word as a programming editor :-) I have used a plenty of editors, many falling way below my expectation - IDLE, PythonWin(comes with Active State), Boa Constructor, SPE etc. I now swear by PyScripter. The best I have used so far and it debug capabilities are pretty impressive. This editor ROCKS! (I am assuming you were planning to use Windows...) - Whenever I want to look at code from many languages simultaneously (C/C++, Python, Perl, Lisp) or as a replacement for Notepad, I use Notepad++. This is a serious replacement for notepad for programmers - It is from GNU and kicks *** esp when you want to look into big text files. Regards Sriram From botsie at nixcartel.org Mon Sep 17 06:34:30 2007 From: botsie at nixcartel.org (Biju Chacko) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:04:30 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Choosing an Editor for Python ??? In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30709160442s55f16343ra497d3664a3b280b@mail.gmail.com> References: <305362.14780.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8548c5f30709160442s55f16343ra497d3664a3b280b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46EE03D6.50209@nixcartel.org> Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > On 9/15/07, Vimal Menon wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Stany's Python Editor (SPE) is easy and comfortable for beginners, its >> wonderful :) . WingIDE is also good, but its not free :). I use vi though, >> vi has nice little tricks which keeps on amusing me and keep me attached to >> vi. On Windows system I love to use UltraEdit(not free), it is very powerful >> and memory efficient (better than vi ;) .. hehe my assumption) and also has >> a python extension (syntax highlight). UltraEdit also works fine through >> WINE in linux. >> > > > Not meant to start Emacs - vi flame wars ! > > > Though I mentioned SPE, I normally use Emacs for everything > unless I want some quick trick like generating UML on the fly > from code. > > However I am an emacs veteran with an experience of using > it and customizing it with elisp for last 13 years. Definitely > not meant for the newbie :) If you're going to do any serious editing in any language, you need to get a good editor. Your editor of choice can make programming a joy or sheer hell. It's like choosing the correct pair of shoes before running a marathon. I'd suggest that you try out emacs and vim. Find out which suits you better and then make a time investment to really learn how to use it. Both of these editors have steep learning curves (emacs is marginally less steep) but knowing one well will really pay off in the long run. I generally stay away from IDEs because I hate having to learn a new environment just because I'm programming in a new language. Also, being an old-timer I'm more productive without an IDE. YMMV. HTH, -- b PS: I've made this particular post so many times that I should just automate it. :-) From siddharta.lists at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 12:06:13 2007 From: siddharta.lists at gmail.com (Siddharta) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:36:13 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] Django Tutorial 2 Message-ID: <46EFA315.7030206@gmail.com> Hi, I just finished a second screencast on Django - http://showmedo.com/videos/video?name=1100010&fromSeriesID=110 This one explains the template inheritance feature, filters and the Django NewForms library. Check it out. Any feedback etc would be cool. -- Siddharta Govindaraj http://siddhi.blogspot.com http://www.silverstripesoftware.com/blog/ From ranganaths at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 12:55:04 2007 From: ranganaths at gmail.com (Ranganath s) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:25:04 +0530 Subject: [BangPypers] query regarding bluetooth networking. Message-ID: <77bb36840709180355u56e9daa0o5ed387687df76506@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I wanted to know like if there is any api for Bluetooth to have a p2p network connection. Its basically for a project to use bluetooth as the channel of communication b/w the peers. -Ranganath -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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