[BangPypers] Python grows in 2007
dorai at thodla.com
Thu Jan 10 08:41:30 CET 2008
There may be several other metrics too.
1. Increasing usage of the language in both open source and commercial
2. Job listings
3. Activity in the discussion groups
<add your own parameter here>
The download activity may not completely measure since some distributions
may include several standard packages (I may be completely out of line
I also wanted to throw in this into the mix:
(might have been posted earlier)
On Jan 10, 2008 12:53 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com>
> I am not interested in fanning flames. Sorry to compare the wrong
> However it would be interesting to compare the downloads of these
> Zope packages w.r.t the downloads of the other packages listed here. That
> would be a right comparison, won't it ?
> Increased downloads of existing or old packages do represent an
> increase in awareness or usage of that language, so this is an interesting
> index to look at.
> According to me, the Python package index really does not give much
> indication of any growth of Python, as does say the CPAN index gives for
> Comparing growth of package indexes can be a misleading index.
> TIOBE seems to use a simple search engine hit comparison. Though a
> rough and crude index, this does tend to act as a smooth index of
> the popularity of a language, canceling out the noises and variations
> in other more specific indices, since a search engine query covers every
> about the language on the web, even blogs about it.
> Downloads of packages is a much more worthy index than many others.
> For example a 20% increase in downloads of Python language packages
> from the Python website (or its mirrors) can be directly considered as a
> 20% increase in its popularity or usage.
> On Jan 10, 2008 12:31 PM, Pradeep Kishore Gowda <pradeep at btbytes.com>
> > On 1/10/08, Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well, that kind of goes against the theory that Python growth was
> mostly due
> > > to Zope related packages, doesn't it ?
> > >
> > O RLY!?
> > AFAIK, I was the one who mentioned zope packages, so let me point out
> > something.
> > I said, the growth in the number of python packages on PyPI is partly
> > due to lot of zope related packages, whereas this statistics talks
> > about the *downloads*.
> > They are two completely different statistics.
> > Cheers,
> > Pradeep
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