[BangPypers] Suggest me a book

Sharath Sama sharaths at tarangtech.com
Thu Oct 15 14:07:38 CEST 2009


Hi,
I have gone through "Code Complete by Steve McConnell"  under same 
category.This also good one. read it.

Reagrds,
Sharath Sama


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>   1. Re: Why do indians copy? (Zaki Manian)
>   2. Re: Why do indians copy? (Kenneth Gonsalves)
>   3. Re: Why do indians copy? (Zaki Manian)
>   4. Suggest me a book (Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy)
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> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:28:03 +0530
> From: Zaki Manian <zaki at manian.org>
> To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India <bangpypers at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
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> Googling or search in general is a skill. There is a lot of contextual
> knowledge that we use when composing a search query. One of the most
> important  skills when entering a new discipline is learning the 
> appropriate
> jargon and using it drive your queries.
>
> Search isn't generally a skill taught in schools. This is sad because it 
> is
> probably ur-skill of the 21st century.  But the only way to learn to 
> search
> is to do a lot of it. I do find it more common in the East to find
> individuals in technical areas who haven't spent time running the 
> thousands
> of queries it takes to build up the skill
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> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Arvind Jamuna Dixit 
> <ardsrk at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> May be we Indians always think the other person to be better or smarter. 
>> To
>> quote from your own post:
>>
>> "Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you  people have"
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy <
>> srinivas_thatiparthy at akebonosoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi list,
>>>         This is my first post to the list though  I have been following
>>> this list since 7 or 8 months.
>>> I have been programming for a 1.5 years or so.Comparatively i have very
>>> less exposure and exp as you  people have and
>>> please excuse me if u think this is a troll or flame.
>>>
>>>          I know that this is not related to python, but i can't resist
>>> discussing this.
>>>
>>> Why do indian programmers ask for code in  Usenet (particularly Google
>>> groups) ?
>>> ,saying that it's very urgent and on top of that they can't even able to
>>> put their problem across correctly.In some cases
>>> they ask you to send it to their mail ID's.
>>>
>>>   Having  tried the problem and asking for help is OK.but this is
>>> something like disgusting.
>>>
>>>         I have been following Reddit  and News groups and forums and no
>>> matter where ever i go these type of
>>> people are there(99% of them are indians).They don't even have the
>>> patience to do googling..is copying seeped into our blood??
>>>
>>>     I have worked at infosys , i have had a chance to work with
>>> westerns,they never ever
>>> copy their home work(In training ,we used to do assignments and submit 
>>> at
>>> the EOD).They do submit what they did , if they can't
>>> do it,they ask permission to submit later.But we (Indians) used to 
>>> copy.Yeah,i
>>> did copy and learnt lessons. :)
>>>
>>>
>>>  Regards,
>>> Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy.
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>>> - Confucius.
>>>
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> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:43:30 +0530
> From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> To: "Bangalore Python Users Group - India" <bangpypers at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
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> On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote:
>> I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go
>> to the Ruby forums
>
> no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC
> -- 
> regards
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> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:50:04 +0530
> From: Zaki Manian <zaki at manian.org>
> To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India <bangpypers at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
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> I frequently speak of the challenge culture poses in doing product
> development in India.
>
> But in some sense, culture is a great problem to have. Culture can change
> and fairly fast. There are also fantastic opportunities for entrepeneurs 
> so
> build microcosms of effective problem solving culture in India.
>
> At the sametime , it is !#@ing hard....
>
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> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Baishampayan Ghose 
> <b.ghose at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> > Why do indian programmers ask for code in  Usenet (particularly Google
>> > groups) ?
>>
>> Most Indian programmers were never supposed to be programmers. They
>> simply lack the cognitive skills required to be in the business. Yet
>> they are the ones who work for large/medium/small software service
>> companies. So when they face a problem, they have absolutely no clue
>> as to where to look for solutions. They also have no idea about the
>> various programming communities and their modus operandi. They just
>> join some random group and ask for solutions (it's akin to asking for
>> some software in some shareware group).
>>
>> The problem is also inside the organisations; people who ask their
>> seniors questions are deemed to be fools, etc.
>>
>> I think there is no solution to this specific problem. It's more of a
>> culture issue. Unless and until parents let their children do whatever
>> they want and the society treats people from all professions equally,
>> people will keep flocking into the most fashionable profession of that
>> decade. Computer programming is on its way out... management is much
>> more fashionable now; the only difference is that a programmer's work
>> revolves around the Internet and the Internet never forgets :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> BG
>>
>> --
>> Baishampayan Ghose
>> b.ghose at gmail.com
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> From: "Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy"
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> Just completed reading the book, "The Coders At Work",It's just an
> excellent book and
> It's great to see behind the eye balls of programmers.
> Can any one suggest me some other books of such kind?
>
> Regards,
> Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy.
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