[BangPypers] Call for Python programmers interested in building social applications

Fri Aug 3 09:20:15 CEST 2012

Hi All,

 Thanks for all the response on the thread. I thought through all the suggestions/ideas from you.. checked out some repos.. looked at the code and finally have made my decision.
 Newebe (http://newebe.org/) comes closest to what I had in mind. I was able to successfully install and run after minor changes to the code. I have already forked it and started working on the changes. I would like to discuss the features and architecture I plan to implement with the group at the same time I dont want to spam this forum. Mail me at yoganand at gmx.com

 Regards,
 Yoganand

----- Original Message -----
From: Phil for Banpypers
Sent: 08/02/12 04:19 PM
To: bangpypers at python.org
Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Call for Python programmers interested in building social applications

 Yoganand, Thanks for trying! Probably the documentation is not perfect and a bit outdated so your comments are most welcome. I had few friends who successfully installed it, so it should not be too difficult. By default it is configured to use Tokyo Cabinet DB. You'll have to install Tokyo Cabinet from source ( http://fallabs.com/tokyocabinet/ ) Also, there's a small overview of the ideas here: http://hanji.info/download/Hanji%20Public.pdf I think we'd better also switch off from the mailing list for really specific stuff, contact me at phil.hanji at hanjinet.org . > I am having couple of issues in installing hanji. > >> ./setup.py get_dojo_custom gives me invalid option error > >> Running tokyo cabinet. I was able to build and install tokyo > cabinet but with pip install tokyo-python I get following error > "tokyo-python requires Tokyo Cabinet >= 1.4.45 to be installed" On 02/08/2012 15:30, bangpypers-request at python.org wrote: > Send BangPypers mailing list submissions to > bangpypers at python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > bangpypers-request at python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > bangpypers-owner at python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BangPypers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Call for Python programmers interested in building social > applications (Philippe May) > 2. Re: Call for Python programmers interested in building social > applications (Yoganand Anandaraju) > 3. Re: Call for Python programmers interested in building social > applications (Yoganand Anandaraju) (Yoganand Anandaraju) > 4. Re: Call for Python programmers interested in building social > applications (Yoganand Anandaraju) > 5. Re: Call for Python programmers interested in building social > applications (Yoganand Anandaraju) > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 10:56:43 +0530 > From: Philippe May <phil.nabble at hanjinet.org> > To: bangpypers at python.org > Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Call for Python programmers interested in > building social applications > Message-ID: <CD762AB6-B6F3-4069-ABAA-74AFFC9771F0 at hanjinet.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I have a project which might largely overlap with this. > > The stack is: > - twisted (web, web sockets, other protocols in a consistent > framework) > - doqu (an abstraction layer to nosql database backends, can be the > standard shelve module, Redis, Tokyo Cabinet, etc) > - jinja2 > - wtforms > - dojo (javascripts) > > Communications between nodes is done with 2 modules: a server > (portal) and a client (satellite). > > Currently, small demo applications include: > - file sharing (download + uploads) > - image slideshows > - music streaming > - localisation / geotagging / mapping (eg: a gsm signal quality > monitoring function for smartphones or wifi for laptops) > > More information about the goals are here: > http://hanji.info/doc/user/faq.html , the repo is online: > http://hg.hanji.info/ . > > I'd be happy if someone wants to join, or i'm open to merging the > projects. > > Philippe > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 07:40:47 +0200 > From: "Yoganand Anandaraju" <yoganand at gmx.com> > To: "Bangalore Python Users Group - India" <bangpypers at python.org> > Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Call for Python programmers interested in > building social applications > Message-ID: <20120802054047.106540 at gmx.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I can fork out of Diaspora and implement features but mainly for two > reasons > > With the technologies now available in python it would be much > easier than me learning ROR and implementing. > One of the goals of the project is to have something similar to > Diaspora for the python developers. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Deepak Garg > Sent: 08/02/12 10:41 AM > To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India > Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Call for Python programmers interested in > building social applications > > Its not about competing with Diaspora, there's nothing wrong with > that, we always need better or different flavors. My question is why > not fork out of Diaspora and implement your features ? Why do you > want > to start the project from scratch ? Deepak On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at > 10:01 AM, Yoganand Anandaraju <yoganand at gmx.com>wrote: > I am pretty > clear about why I would want to use python. Lets be clear that > this > application will be complementary to Diaspora and not a competitior. > A > > diaspora clone will extend the distributed social network idea and > help > Diaspora not the other way. If anyone thinks this could > compete > with > Diaspora we need understand the idea and motivation behind > distributed > socail network. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > Gora Mohanty > Sent: 08/01/12 11:51 PM > To: Bangalore Python Users > Group - India > Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Call for Python programmers > interested in > building social applications > > On 1 August 2012 > 23:27, Anand Chitipothu <anandolog > y at gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Gora > Mohanty <gora at mimirtech.com> wrote: > >> On 1 August 2012 20:18, > Deepak Garg <deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Diaspora is AGPL > (version 3), some parts dual-licensed under MIT > License >>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora_(software) >> >> Erm, > you are > the second person to suggest that, but Diaspora >> is RoR. A better > > bet might be Pinax ( http://pinaxproject.com/ ) >> if one wants to > stick > to Python. > > -1 > > I don't think we should be so religious > about using > Python. After all > programming languages are tools to > get job done. Er, I > am not. But, there could well be a good reason > for someone to want to do > that in Python. Since they are asking on > a > Python group, a reasonable > assumption is that they have done their > homework and want a Python > solution. > Remember that Diaspora was > developed by a bunch of very smart > chaps > over couple of years and > it was able to raise > $200K of funds on > ki > ckstarter. It would take equal amount of efforts > (or even more) > and > resources to start building something from scratch > again. > > > Rejecting an already available opensource project, even before > > > considering its merits, just because it is not written in your > > favorite > programming language is not a good idea. Have not looked > at > Diaspora, and > it could well be quite good. RoR is also perfectly > fine for a RAD > framework. I am not sure how it came across that I > was rejecting Diaspora > out of hand? Regards, Gora > _______________________________________________ > BangPypers mailing > list BangPypers at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > > > Regards, > > Yoganand > _______________________________________________ > > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > -- Deepak Garg, > Data Center and Cloud Div. Citrix R&D, India Github: > https://github.com/gargdeepak LinkedIn: > http://in.linkedin.com/in/deep > akgargiit Slideshare: > http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/presentations Skype-id: > deepakgarg.iit _______________________________________________ > BangPypers mailing list BangPypers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > > > Regards, > Yoganand > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 06:17:20 +0200 > From: "Yoganand Anandaraju" <yoganand at gmx.com> > To: "Bangalore Python Users Group - India" <bangpypers at python.org> > Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Call for Python programmers interested in > building social applications (Yoganand Anandaraju) > Message-ID: <20120802041720.106570 at gmx.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks Aditya, I will look at these.. hoping these are all open > source. It will help me think through the architecture once again. > I myself am a hobbyist programmer and this community will turn me to > real-programmer one day. Once we wet our hands on the code the repo > will be there for everyone to fork. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Aditya Athalye > Sent: 08/01/12 11:45 PM > To: bangpypers at python.org > Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Call for Python programmers interested in > building social applications (Yoganand Anandaraju) > > I'm new here (hello all) and to Python (hello all, again!) so please > pardon any n00b errors. @Yoganand, You wrote: > Thats right. Diaspora > clone you could call. Do we have something like that already written > in python? There are at least 3 "distributed" SNs using Python, > according to this list > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_social_network Newebe > (Python > / Coffeescript, AGPL) * one user = one node ; microblogging, picture > sharing, activity stream * Server / web client ---- Salut ? Toi > (Python, C++) * multi-frontends, microblogging, group microblogging, > file sharing, games, XMPP client * XMPP client (multi-frontends), web > server, SMTP/IMAP server ---- Sparkleshare (Python (Nautilus plugin), > C# (rest)) * Collaboration and sharing tool inspired by Dropbox These > (and potentially other in-Python implementations) in the list may not > necessarily use P2P protocols, but you did say 'P2P or something > similar'. Also, if you've not already seen GNU's P2P networking > framework, perhaps i > t will help think through architecture: https://gnunet.org/ Please > let me know if really-wet-behind-the-ears, not-yet-real-programmers > like me can also join in when you publish the repo. Best, Aditya > www.AdityaAthalye.com _______________________________________________ > BangPypers mailing list BangPypers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > > > Regards, > Yoganand > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 08:22:35 +0200 > From: "Yoganand Anandaraju" <yoganand at gmx.com> > To: "Bangalore Python Users Group - India" <bangpypers at python.org> > Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Call for Python programmers interested in > building social applications > Message-ID: <20120802062235.106550 at gmx.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > This is nice Philippe. Hanji does much more than I was thinking in > distributed social application. Can you let us know how we could take > this forward? What are you project goals and what plans you have in > mind for Hanji. Meanwhile i will checkout the code and go over the > documentation. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Philippe May > Sent: 08/02/12 10:56 AM > To: bangpypers at python.org > Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Call for Python programmers interested in > building social applications > > I have a project which might largely overlap with this. The stack > is: - twisted (web, web sockets, other protocols in a consistent > framework) - doqu (an abstraction layer to nosql database backends, > can be the standard shelve module, Redis, Tokyo Cabinet, etc) - > jinja2 > - wtforms - dojo (javascripts) Communications between nodes is done > with 2 modules: a server (portal) and a client (satellite). > Currently, > small demo applications include: - file sharing (download + uploads) > - > image slideshows - music streaming - localisation / geotagging / > mapping (eg: a gsm signal quality monitoring function for smartphones > or wifi for laptops) More information about the goals are here: > http://hanji.info/doc/user/faq.html , the repo is online: > http://hg.hanji.info/ . I'd be happy if someone wants to join, or i'm > open to merging the projects. Philippe > _______________________________________________ BangPypers mailing > list BangPypers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > > > Regards, > Yoganand > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:29:21 +0200 > From: "Yoganand Anandaraju" <yoganand at gmx.com> > To: "Bangalore Python Users Group - India" <bangpypers at python.org> > Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Call for Python programmers interested in > building social applications > Message-ID: <20120802072921.106550 at gmx.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I am having couple of issues in installing hanji. > >> ./setup.py get_dojo_custom gives me invalid option error > >> Running tokyo cabinet. I was able to build and install tokyo > cabinet but with pip install tokyo-python I get following error > "tokyo-python requires Tokyo Cabinet >= 1.4.45 to be installed" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Yoganand Anandaraju > Sent: 08/02/12 11:52 AM > To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India > Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Call for Python programmers interested in > building social applications > > This is nice Philippe. Hanji does much more than I was thinking in > distributed social application. Can you let us know how we could take > this forward? What are you project goals and what plans you have in > mind for Hanji. Meanwhile i will checkout the code and go over the > documentation. ----- Original Message ----- From: Philippe May Sent: > 08/02/12 10:56 AM To: bangpypers at python.org Subject: Re: [BangPypers] > Call for Python programmers interested in building social > applications > I have a project which might largely overlap with this. The stack is: > - twisted (web, web sockets, other protocols in a consistent > framework) - doqu (an abstraction layer to nosql database backends, > can be the standard shelve module, Redis, Tokyo Cabinet, etc) - > jinja2 > - wtforms - dojo (javascripts) Communications between nodes is done > with 2 modules: a server (portal) and a client (satellite). > Currently, > small demo applications include: - file sharing (download + uploads) > - > image slideshows - music streaming > - localisation / geotagging / mapping (eg: a gsm signal quality > monitoring function for smartphones or wifi for laptops) More > information about the goals are here: > http://hanji.info/doc/user/faq.html , the repo is online: > http://hg.hanji.info/ . I'd be happy if someone wants to join, or i'm > open to merging the projects. Philippe > _______________________________________________ BangPypers mailing > list BangPypers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers Regards, Yoganand > _______________________________________________ BangPypers mailing > list BangPypers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > > > Regards, > Yoganand > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > > > End of BangPypers Digest, Vol 60, Issue 5 > ***************************************** _______________________________________________ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Regards,
 Yoganand