From karra.etc at gmail.com  Sun Jul  1 05:33:05 2012
From: karra.etc at gmail.com (Sriram Karra)
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 09:03:05 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] virdual drive
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On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Nitin Kumar <nitin.nitp at gmail.com> wrote:

> windows 7/xp
>

As per Tim Roberts: (Tim is very active on the Pywin32 mailing list and is
undoubtedly an expert on all things Python+Windows)
-----

Tiziano Bettio <> wrote:
>
>I'm looking for a simple solution of a win32 shell extension (virtual
>drive).
>
>It should make available a new drive with letter, which will be
>read-only. Instead of a network drive or similar it then should query a
>server application for directory/file listing.

Creating a new virtual folder with a shell extension is easy. Creating a
new drive letter requires that you write a file system driver, something
that (A) must be written in C, (B) requires the expensive "installable file
system kit" from Microsoft, and (C) no human being really wants to do.

-- 
- Tim Roberts, <http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=>
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

-----

More here:
http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t342638-win32-shell-extension-virtual-drive.html

From steve at lonetwin.net  Mon Jul  2 13:59:42 2012
From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 17:29:42 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Need help understanding -9 >> 1
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Hi,

On 06/29/2012 04:03 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Varun Narang <varunarang at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I need some help understanding the right shift operation on -9. To my
>> understanding, it's represented as -0b1001, Now, if I shift it one place to
>> right, it should give me -0b0100, which is decimal equivalent of 4. but
>> running this on python console gives me -5.
>>
>> Please help me out here.
> 
> -9 is represented internally as 0xFFFFFFF7.
> 
> The last byte in binary is 11110111. When on rightshift, it becomes
> 11111011. Which is 0xFFFFFFFB, hex representation of -5.
> 
> Try this to see how -9 and -5 are represented internally:
> 
>>>> import ctypes
>>>> libc = ctypes.CDLL("libc.so.6")
>>>> a = libc.printf("%x\n", -9)
> fffffff7
>>>> a = libc.printf("%x\n", -5)
> fffffffb
> 
> This works only on linux.
>

btw, one doesn't need to use ctypes for this. Just coincidentally, a while back
I was wondering why I couldn't use the builtin hex() to represent negative
numbers in python and learned that one has to limit the integer to 32 bits for
this to work correctly. ie:

>>> hex(9)
'0x9'
>>> hex(-9)
'-0x9'
>>> hex(-9 & 0xffffffff)
'0xfffffff7'
>>>

I got this from :
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3831833/printing-negative-values-as-hex-in-python

cheers,
- steve

-- 
random spiel: http://lonetwin.net/
what i'm stumbling into: http://lonetwin.stumbleupon.com/

From info at aspirae.com  Mon Jul  2 16:32:04 2012
From: info at aspirae.com (Info website)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 20:02:04 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Aspirae Bangalore
Message-ID: <CAOrnCiKie5Cpt0eUvRT-1vQG+eW1-VNPm4sS0DUdfiDhyY8OPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Sir/Ma'am,

We are a startup and need a python developer anyone who has prior
experience with either OpenERP/OpenObject will be preferred.

Go through our company profile at www.aspirae.com

Any help will be very much appreciated. Resume's can be posted to
info at aspirae.com

Pay will be decided on negotiations

Thank you

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Tue Jul  3 01:54:53 2012
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 05:24:53 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Job list (was:  [JOB] Aspirae Bangalore)
In-Reply-To: <CAOrnCiKie5Cpt0eUvRT-1vQG+eW1-VNPm4sS0DUdfiDhyY8OPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	(Info website's message of "Mon, 2 Jul 2012 20:02:04 +0530")
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Message-ID: <87hatpyb02.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>


Having lots of job postings is a good sign of a healthy
community. However, it does dilute the list a little. Sidu suggested a
separate bangalore-python-jobs (or something similar) list. 

What's the general opinion?

-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From anandology at gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 03:37:58 2012
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 07:07:58 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Job list (was: [JOB] Aspirae Bangalore)
In-Reply-To: <87hatpyb02.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
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On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>
> Having lots of job postings is a good sign of a healthy
> community. However, it does dilute the list a little. Sidu suggested a
> separate bangalore-python-jobs (or something similar) list.
>
> What's the general opinion?

-1

One more list to signup. I don't think we are getting too many such
emails. I don't see a problem.

Anand

From deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 05:17:57 2012
From: deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com (Deepak Garg)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 08:47:57 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Job list (was: [JOB] Aspirae Bangalore)
In-Reply-To: <87hatpyb02.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
References: <CAOrnCiKie5Cpt0eUvRT-1vQG+eW1-VNPm4sS0DUdfiDhyY8OPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<87hatpyb02.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
Message-ID: <CAByQ+9-h1pPRM8YmG-XVaN1NLvZH9nF56rGc=bw7RwrwqATroA@mail.gmail.com>

I think we should keep it on the same mailing list as this. If there is a
separate list for 'Jobs' then a lot of people might not subscribe to it
which will miss out the point of the guy posting the job to spread the word
about the new opening in the community. Now the people who didn't subscribe
for the Job's ML are probably not interested in the Job openings but IMO, a
single ML with appropriate [Tags] helps in keeping the community united.

One of the reasons people post 'Jobs' in this ML is that it is very healthy
and active. If the 'Jobs-ML' is dry then it would lose its purpose.

I might not be interested in the Job openings but I like to see 'what are
the openings are' and 'what is it the company is working on' and 'if we can
invite them to present in the meetup' or 'probably ask them to host the
next meetup in their office :)'. So, let this serve as a benefit to
everyone.


Cheers,
Deepak



On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>wrote:

>
> Having lots of job postings is a good sign of a healthy
> community. However, it does dilute the list a little. Sidu suggested a
> separate bangalore-python-jobs (or something similar) list.
>
> What's the general opinion?
>
> --
> Cordially,
> Noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 

Deepak Garg,
Data Center and Cloud Div.
Citrix R&D, India

Github: https://github.com/gargdeepak
LinkedIn: http://in.linkedin.com/in/deepakgargiit
Slideshare:   http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/presentations
Skype-id: deepakgarg.iit

From gora at mimirtech.com  Tue Jul  3 05:41:51 2012
From: gora at mimirtech.com (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 09:11:51 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Job list (was: [JOB] Aspirae Bangalore)
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFwCCZB5NHj9ECtBdO1QO+9aU9kUwMyVUP=g0Pivy3ayxw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 3 July 2012 07:07, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>>
>> Having lots of job postings is a good sign of a healthy
>> community. However, it does dilute the list a little. Sidu suggested a
>> separate bangalore-python-jobs (or something similar) list.
>>
>> What's the general opinion?
>
> -1
>
> One more list to signup. I don't think we are getting too many such
> emails. I don't see a problem.
[...]

Agreed with the above reasons. Also, I do like to get a
sense of what jobs are available, as it also gives one an
idea of what Python work is going on.

As long as such postings are marked properly in the
subject line, I see no issue with them. Most email
clients will let one set up filters.

Regards,
Gora

From senthil at uthcode.com  Tue Jul  3 06:02:37 2012
From: senthil at uthcode.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 21:02:37 -0700
Subject: [BangPypers] Job list (was: [JOB] Aspirae Bangalore)
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On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Gora Mohanty <gora at mimirtech.com> wrote:
> On 3 July 2012 07:07, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>>>
>>> Having lots of job postings is a good sign of a healthy
>>> community. However, it does dilute the list a little. Sidu suggested a
>>> separate bangalore-python-jobs (or something similar) list.
>>>
>>> What's the general opinion?
>>
>> -1


-1

I think, I can sense the group feeling and agree with it by saying -1. :D

-- 
Senthil

From anandology at gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 06:43:52 2012
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 10:13:52 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [OT][Commercial] Python Training Course
Message-ID: <CAC7wXFxF9Z1Gb++CoRF6FyyysKv8RSqap4M+M3zd6A12+WgywA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm conducting a two day Python training course in Bangalore on 4th
and 5th August.

For more information, please visit the course page at:
http://anandology.com/trainings/python.html

Thanks,
Anand

From jamal.rvce at gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 07:48:59 2012
From: jamal.rvce at gmail.com (Jamal)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 11:18:59 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOBS] Python/Django developers with 2+ years
	experience
Message-ID: <CA+mcN5Sgea=Axq0rCTrWuScVs5jjg_hGy7YJ7by81Pgfqp-J8g@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Fellow Pythonistas,

Langoor is looking for a* Product Development Guru!*
(www.langoor.com)
*
*
*Work location:* Bangalore

*Job description:*

This person needs to be a *Python & Django expert* with at least *2 years* of
relevant experience.

The person we are currently after will, in their own right need to possess
the following characteristics:
* Should be able to master any technology, language, or development
environment that we need in the future
* Programming ability is exceptional - as demonstrated by a continuous
string of successful projects
* Able to implement, innovate and suggest improvements (both process and
code)
* Can lead/nurture freshers into independent developers
* Can work in an Agile/Scrum environment, with tight yet realistic deadlines
* Be extremely comfortable in *Python, Django, Databases, Algorithms*

We are not good at spoon feeding - so we are after problem solvers. If you
had filled this position in the last few weeks, you would have:
* Setup a server architecture for a new product, including suggesting
improvements to the framework
* Helped seamlessly integrate different pieces of code for the same process
so that it flows step by step properly
* Written a few algorithms taking into account Markov chains, Levenshtein
distance, and other such creative solutions
* Written backend code and created database tables to support your
colleagues' front-end efforts on a product

We want people who:
* Are currently in Bangalore
* Can start within 30 days notice period
* Want to work in a startup environment (and have an entrepreneurial
instinct); want to be a big cog in a small machine, not a small cog in a
big machine
* Want to work in the Unix/Linux environment

We recommend you review langoor.mobi and langoor.net before you apply.

To apply, please send your resume to: *jamalm at langoor.net*

Please let me know if you need any clarifications.

Thanks,
Jamal Mohammed
Product Lead - langoor.mobi

From metafusion at gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 08:10:29 2012
From: metafusion at gmail.com (Shuhaib Shariff)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 11:40:29 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOBS] Python Developers with 2 Yrs Experience
Message-ID: <CAAAXCkzF=Po9JgskysCRJ3AtPKZBcP-0iVApzB6H1Z5bGhy1ng@mail.gmail.com>

DoubleSpring seeks passionate PYTHON developers with experience in
building or contributing to Open Source projects. We are constantly rolling
out new products so the right individual would be able to write clean code
and work in a fast pace environment.

We highly value native ability, passion and the right attitude.

Requirements
- Be smart and be passionate.
- Technical proficiency with Python and Django.
- Technical proficiency in JavaScript.
- Experience with MySQL / PgSQL.
- Experience with MVC design patterns and solid algorithm skills.
- 2 years of industry experience
- B.E. in Computer Science or equivalent degree required.

Location: Bangalore

How to apply
Send your resume to: careers at doublespring.com

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Tue Jul  3 09:34:59 2012
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:04:59 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Job list
In-Reply-To: <CAByQ+9-h1pPRM8YmG-XVaN1NLvZH9nF56rGc=bw7RwrwqATroA@mail.gmail.com>
	(Deepak Garg's message of "Tue, 3 Jul 2012 08:47:57 +0530")
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Message-ID: <87d34dxpp8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>


Fair enough. 

Deepak Garg <deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com> writes:

> I think we should keep it on the same mailing list as this. If there is a
> separate list for 'Jobs' then a lot of people might not subscribe to it
> which will miss out the point of the guy posting the job to spread the word
> about the new opening in the community. Now the people who didn't subscribe
> for the Job's ML are probably not interested in the Job openings but IMO, a
> single ML with appropriate [Tags] helps in keeping the community united.
>
> One of the reasons people post 'Jobs' in this ML is that it is very healthy
> and active. If the 'Jobs-ML' is dry then it would lose its purpose.
>
> I might not be interested in the Job openings but I like to see 'what are
> the openings are' and 'what is it the company is working on' and 'if we can
> invite them to present in the meetup' or 'probably ask them to host the
> next meetup in their office :)'. So, let this serve as a benefit to
> everyone.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Deepak
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>wrote:
>
>>
>> Having lots of job postings is a good sign of a healthy
>> community. However, it does dilute the list a little. Sidu suggested a
>> separate bangalore-python-jobs (or something similar) list.
>>
>> What's the general opinion?
>>
>> --
>> Cordially,
>> Noufal
>> http://nibrahim.net.in
>> _______________________________________________
>> BangPypers mailing list
>> BangPypers at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>

-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lorddaemon at gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 10:35:47 2012
From: lorddaemon at gmail.com (Sidu Ponnappa)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 14:05:47 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Job list
In-Reply-To: <87d34dxpp8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
References: <CAOrnCiKie5Cpt0eUvRT-1vQG+eW1-VNPm4sS0DUdfiDhyY8OPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<87hatpyb02.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
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The only suggestion I have, then, is that we be stricter about the
right tagging.

I prefer job posts by engineers for engineers (because these are
generally well written, informative and correctly tagged), and a
significant upswing in untagged recruiter posts prompted my suggestion
to Noufal.

Cheers,
Sidu.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>
> Fair enough.
>
> Deepak Garg <deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I think we should keep it on the same mailing list as this. If there is a
>> separate list for 'Jobs' then a lot of people might not subscribe to it
>> which will miss out the point of the guy posting the job to spread the word
>> about the new opening in the community. Now the people who didn't subscribe
>> for the Job's ML are probably not interested in the Job openings but IMO, a
>> single ML with appropriate [Tags] helps in keeping the community united.
>>
>> One of the reasons people post 'Jobs' in this ML is that it is very healthy
>> and active. If the 'Jobs-ML' is dry then it would lose its purpose.
>>
>> I might not be interested in the Job openings but I like to see 'what are
>> the openings are' and 'what is it the company is working on' and 'if we can
>> invite them to present in the meetup' or 'probably ask them to host the
>> next meetup in their office :)'. So, let this serve as a benefit to
>> everyone.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Deepak
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Having lots of job postings is a good sign of a healthy
>>> community. However, it does dilute the list a little. Sidu suggested a
>>> separate bangalore-python-jobs (or something similar) list.
>>>
>>> What's the general opinion?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cordially,
>>> Noufal
>>> http://nibrahim.net.in
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> BangPypers mailing list
>>> BangPypers at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>>
>
> --
> Cordially,
> Noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

From ramdaz at gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 10:47:52 2012
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 14:17:52 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Job list
In-Reply-To: <CAHQkf6Q2pm-s6+XUKNjydHYGRUkgvaXPckn0O+bXjkin9=+=iQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOrnCiKie5Cpt0eUvRT-1vQG+eW1-VNPm4sS0DUdfiDhyY8OPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<87hatpyb02.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
	<CAByQ+9-h1pPRM8YmG-XVaN1NLvZH9nF56rGc=bw7RwrwqATroA@mail.gmail.com>
	<87d34dxpp8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
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On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Sidu Ponnappa <lorddaemon at gmail.com> wrote:

> The only suggestion I have, then, is that we be stricter about the
> right tagging.
>
> I prefer job posts by engineers for engineers (because these are
> generally well written, informative and correctly tagged), and a
> significant upswing in untagged recruiter posts prompted my suggestion
> to Noufal.
>

Sidu,

I guess etiquette is in place. But then not everyone follows. You will
always have a few  recruiters who would slip in, and we can always ban them
on repeated offence.

From deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 13:23:50 2012
From: deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com (Deepak Garg)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 16:53:50 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Job list
In-Reply-To: <CAP915yVg5j3GCiXZrzian4HB2Vpj-mhKZ4G6gvribpd5tkEWKg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOrnCiKie5Cpt0eUvRT-1vQG+eW1-VNPm4sS0DUdfiDhyY8OPQ@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAByQ+9-h1pPRM8YmG-XVaN1NLvZH9nF56rGc=bw7RwrwqATroA@mail.gmail.com>
	<87d34dxpp8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
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	<CAP915yVg5j3GCiXZrzian4HB2Vpj-mhKZ4G6gvribpd5tkEWKg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAByQ+9_GXM31LfueDTpEUbnBfD9fcy1swE-jkc3Zspew7f5Vpw@mail.gmail.com>

Is it possible that to send this etiquette in the welcome email when people
join the ML.
The welcome email can have general recommendations and description of tags
- [Jobs], [Commercial] etc.
Not everyone (including me) knows about all the tags or the right tag for
the purpose.



Deepak



On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Sidu Ponnappa <lorddaemon at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The only suggestion I have, then, is that we be stricter about the
> > right tagging.
> >
> > I prefer job posts by engineers for engineers (because these are
> > generally well written, informative and correctly tagged), and a
> > significant upswing in untagged recruiter posts prompted my suggestion
> > to Noufal.
> >
>
> Sidu,
>
> I guess etiquette is in place. But then not everyone follows. You will
> always have a few  recruiters who would slip in, and we can always ban them
> on repeated offence.
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 

Deepak Garg,
Data Center and Cloud Div.
Citrix R&D, India

Github: https://github.com/gargdeepak
LinkedIn: http://in.linkedin.com/in/deepakgargiit
Slideshare:   http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/presentations
Skype-id: deepakgarg.iit

From anandology at gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 13:31:46 2012
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 17:01:46 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Job list
In-Reply-To: <CAByQ+9_GXM31LfueDTpEUbnBfD9fcy1swE-jkc3Zspew7f5Vpw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOrnCiKie5Cpt0eUvRT-1vQG+eW1-VNPm4sS0DUdfiDhyY8OPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<87hatpyb02.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
	<CAByQ+9-h1pPRM8YmG-XVaN1NLvZH9nF56rGc=bw7RwrwqATroA@mail.gmail.com>
	<87d34dxpp8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
	<CAHQkf6Q2pm-s6+XUKNjydHYGRUkgvaXPckn0O+bXjkin9=+=iQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAP915yVg5j3GCiXZrzian4HB2Vpj-mhKZ4G6gvribpd5tkEWKg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAByQ+9_GXM31LfueDTpEUbnBfD9fcy1swE-jkc3Zspew7f5Vpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC7wXFyyJ=htCR-QZ_sg=mb-oB+2RpU31SO0c0CL53a4GsOTAQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Deepak Garg <deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it possible that to send this etiquette in the welcome email when people
> join the ML.
> The welcome email can have general recommendations and description of tags
> - [Jobs], [Commercial] etc.
> Not everyone (including me) knows about all the tags or the right tag for
> the purpose.

I don't think there was any formal list.
Here are the list of tags that I've seen people using:

[Job]
[Commercial]
[OT] - Off-topic
[X-POST] - Cross posted to multiple groups

Anand

From lawgon at gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 13:51:59 2012
From: lawgon at gmail.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 17:21:59 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Job list
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFyyJ=htCR-QZ_sg=mb-oB+2RpU31SO0c0CL53a4GsOTAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOrnCiKie5Cpt0eUvRT-1vQG+eW1-VNPm4sS0DUdfiDhyY8OPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<87hatpyb02.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
	<CAByQ+9-h1pPRM8YmG-XVaN1NLvZH9nF56rGc=bw7RwrwqATroA@mail.gmail.com>
	<87d34dxpp8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
	<CAHQkf6Q2pm-s6+XUKNjydHYGRUkgvaXPckn0O+bXjkin9=+=iQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAP915yVg5j3GCiXZrzian4HB2Vpj-mhKZ4G6gvribpd5tkEWKg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAByQ+9_GXM31LfueDTpEUbnBfD9fcy1swE-jkc3Zspew7f5Vpw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC7wXFyyJ=htCR-QZ_sg=mb-oB+2RpU31SO0c0CL53a4GsOTAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1341316319.18526.150.camel@xlquest.web>

On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 17:01 +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> > Not everyone (including me) knows about all the tags or the right
> tag for
> > the purpose.
> 
> I don't think there was any formal list.
> Here are the list of tags that I've seen people using:
> 
> [Job]
> [Commercial]
> [OT] - Off-topic
> [X-POST] - Cross posted to multiple groups 

the last one to be used *solely* for announcements of general importance
to all the lists it is posted to. 
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From vid at svaksha.com  Tue Jul  3 14:04:11 2012
From: vid at svaksha.com (vid)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 12:04:11 +0000
Subject: [BangPypers] Job list
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFyyJ=htCR-QZ_sg=mb-oB+2RpU31SO0c0CL53a4GsOTAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOrnCiKie5Cpt0eUvRT-1vQG+eW1-VNPm4sS0DUdfiDhyY8OPQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<87hatpyb02.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
	<CAByQ+9-h1pPRM8YmG-XVaN1NLvZH9nF56rGc=bw7RwrwqATroA@mail.gmail.com>
	<87d34dxpp8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
	<CAHQkf6Q2pm-s6+XUKNjydHYGRUkgvaXPckn0O+bXjkin9=+=iQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAP915yVg5j3GCiXZrzian4HB2Vpj-mhKZ4G6gvribpd5tkEWKg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAByQ+9_GXM31LfueDTpEUbnBfD9fcy1swE-jkc3Zspew7f5Vpw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAC7wXFyyJ=htCR-QZ_sg=mb-oB+2RpU31SO0c0CL53a4GsOTAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN9ztG-9FS8gY5zqq2PMERCWKqbL2GK+q5g6wc7_Q=Exe02hGg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [Job]
> [Commercial]
> [OT] - Off-topic
> [X-POST] - Cross posted to multiple groups

Here are some more:
[ANN] = Announcement(s)
[RFC] = Request for comments

IME, few folks read the "welcome email" and fewer still follow
etiquette. Despite the biggest faux pas** I've seen, most people learn
quickly with a polite off-list nudge with a few links to read.

** Sometimes people may (accidentally?) hit reply and use the "welcome
message" as their introduction email to the list, revealing their
password to everyone on the list.

-- 
Regards,
Vid
? http://svaksha.com ?

From siddharta.lists at gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 21:39:40 2012
From: siddharta.lists at gmail.com (siddharta.lists)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 01:09:40 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [ANN][Ask] Please provide feedback on my new product
	Tour My App
Message-ID: <CABDL5CFPmb-AqhKMWZGFrkPyXPA_qxn6XRBL_zFSySqUMtp+9A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

We just launched our new product Tour My App & we're looking for feedback
on it (especially from startups / web app developers)

The product uses Django + MongoDB on the backend and jQuery on the client.

The pitch: A big challenge for web app developers is quickly engaging their
users. Tour My App allows you to add guided in-application tours and
messages to your web apps. You can use it to orient new users, highlight
new or advanced features, guide users through specific tasks, show guided
demos of your app, and more.

Link: http://bit.ly/LNGOzM
Would love to hear your thoughts.

Cheers,

Siddharta Govindaraj
siddharta at silverstripesoftware.com

Tour My App
http://tourmyapp.com

From chinny143charan at gmail.com  Wed Jul  4 13:53:03 2012
From: chinny143charan at gmail.com (charantej.S)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 17:23:03 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [OT][Commercial] Python Training Course
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFxF9Z1Gb++CoRF6FyyysKv8RSqap4M+M3zd6A12+WgywA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC7wXFxF9Z1Gb++CoRF6FyyysKv8RSqap4M+M3zd6A12+WgywA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGSY0H-_5WrfUEZx5=cuYx0SojMSuicskN-PE27k8iDH4V=Fng@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Anand,

       Where we need to register and is it limited seats.

Thanks,
Charantej

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm conducting a two day Python training course in Bangalore on 4th
> and 5th August.
>
> For more information, please visit the course page at:
> http://anandology.com/trainings/python.html
>
> Thanks,
> Anand
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
Thanks & Regards,
CharanTej.S

From anandology at gmail.com  Wed Jul  4 13:58:29 2012
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 17:28:29 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [OT][Commercial] Python Training Course
In-Reply-To: <CAGSY0H-_5WrfUEZx5=cuYx0SojMSuicskN-PE27k8iDH4V=Fng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC7wXFxF9Z1Gb++CoRF6FyyysKv8RSqap4M+M3zd6A12+WgywA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGSY0H-_5WrfUEZx5=cuYx0SojMSuicskN-PE27k8iDH4V=Fng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC7wXFyuB2uMSz7e5tXxdTGA3kNmkZQH7NDBW-5oVCo=HDcUFA@mail.gmail.com>

Replied offline.

Please mail me offline, if you have any questions about the training course.

Thanks,
Anand

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 5:23 PM, charantej.S <chinny143charan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Anand,
>
>        Where we need to register and is it limited seats.
>
> Thanks,
> Charantej
>
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm conducting a two day Python training course in Bangalore on 4th
>> and 5th August.
>>
>> For more information, please visit the course page at:
>> http://anandology.com/trainings/python.html
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anand
>> _______________________________________________
>> BangPypers mailing list
>> BangPypers at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks & Regards,
> CharanTej.S
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

From kushaldas at gmail.com  Wed Jul  4 18:45:40 2012
From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 22:15:40 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Retask,
	a Task Queue implementation for human beings
Message-ID: <CAAzeMbycD0xgcFRQqupBpUf4_6Fv7182ftRyOgmQ=HB1wyHUfg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I am happy to announce Retask [1], a Task Queue implementation for
human beings. It uses Redis [2] it the backend.

User can enqueue and dequeue tasks in the queues they manage. Each
task can contain any serializable python objects. We use JSON
internally to store the tasks in the queues.

[1] http://retask.readthedocs.org
[2] http://redis.io

Kushal
-- 
http://fedoraproject.org
http://kushaldas.in

From rahul8590 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  4 19:05:29 2012
From: rahul8590 at gmail.com (Rahul R)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 22:35:29 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Retask,
 a Task Queue implementation for human beings
In-Reply-To: <CAAzeMbycD0xgcFRQqupBpUf4_6Fv7182ftRyOgmQ=HB1wyHUfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAzeMbycD0xgcFRQqupBpUf4_6Fv7182ftRyOgmQ=HB1wyHUfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+ixes449O4OSYJCX7859Yg3V96aeVKRVxe2UyQ2j_wDB8RGpw@mail.gmail.com>

hey ,

i was checking out ReTask , its a nice tool to have. But i am just curious
how is it different from using Redis with its python client. If i am not
wrong , redis natively supports pub-sub model.

Thanks,
Rahul



On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Kushal Das <kushaldas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am happy to announce Retask [1], a Task Queue implementation for
> human beings. It uses Redis [2] it the backend.
>
> User can enqueue and dequeue tasks in the queues they manage. Each
> task can contain any serializable python objects. We use JSON
> internally to store the tasks in the queues.
>
> [1] http://retask.readthedocs.org
> [2] http://redis.io
>
> Kushal
> --
> http://fedoraproject.org
> http://kushaldas.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From kushaldas at gmail.com  Wed Jul  4 19:09:41 2012
From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 22:39:41 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Retask,
 a Task Queue implementation for human beings
In-Reply-To: <CA+ixes449O4OSYJCX7859Yg3V96aeVKRVxe2UyQ2j_wDB8RGpw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAzeMbycD0xgcFRQqupBpUf4_6Fv7182ftRyOgmQ=HB1wyHUfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+ixes449O4OSYJCX7859Yg3V96aeVKRVxe2UyQ2j_wDB8RGpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAzeMbz43hw5V02hi=JCacCTcuTWt-LBSLgT93u6_JZ3q9FUEQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Rahul R <rahul8590 at gmail.com> wrote:
> hey ,
>
> i was checking out ReTask , its a nice tool to have. But i am just curious
> how is it different from using Redis with its python client. If i am not
> wrong , redis natively supports pub-sub model.
This is a library implementation where the user does not have to worry
about implementing the Queue and Task manually.

Kushal

From kracekumar at hasgeek.in  Sat Jul  7 09:57:53 2012
From: kracekumar at hasgeek.in (kracekumar)
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:27:53 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [HasGeek][Commerical] Fifth elephant data hacknight on
 July 14 & 15
Message-ID: <4FF7EC01.4030208@hasgeek.in>

Bangpypers,

    HasGeek is organizing  data hacknight on July 14, 2012 & July 15, 
2012 in Bangalore & Pune.

What is hacknight ?

    Hacknight is intensive hacking on code where hackers form team and 
work on idea whole night. Data hacknight focuses on hacking data related 
projects. You can have look into HasGeek hacknights, 
http://www.youtube.com/user/hasgeek/videos?query=hacknight .

Who can join hacknight ?

    Data enthusiasts, geeks, designers, mathematicians and 
statisticians. Ofcourse any body who is passionate on hacking.

What can we do with data ?

  *      Finding patterns in datasets and coming up with interesting
    analytical models.
  *      Working on visualization challenges - how you would like to
    represent your data.
  *      Working with a new tool, such as R, Excel, Pig, Hive, Hadoop,
    Pydata, Numpy/Scipy.
  *      Building a cluster overnight, if you have set your eyes on the sky!
  *      Scraping data from sources and creating a repository.
  *      Other ideas that you may have!
  *      Or, take up one of our challenges and work with the datasets!


Propose your project ideas on http://beta.hacknight.in . Form teams, and 
hack your way to the glory of geekness!

If you have datasets that you would like to share with others, ... ... ...

This hacknight is part of a larger conference on big data, analytics and 
cross-industry applications called The Fifth Elephant. The Fifth 
Elephant takes place on 27 and 28 July, 2012, at the Nimhans Convention 
Centre in Bangalore. The hacknight is free if you have purchased your 
ticket to the event. If not, the entry fee is Rs. 500.

HasGeek will provide you with food, beverages and a cool hacknight 
t-shirt during the 16 hours of hacking. The t-shirt is free for anyone 
who stays the night, but only if they stay the night. You get it at the 
demo in the morning.

So what are you waiting for???


* Details *

Dates: 14 and 15 July, 2012

Time: 2 PM to 8 AM

Venues: CIS, Bangalore and AmiWorks, Pune


For queries, write to us on info at hasgeek.com <mailto:info at hasgeek.com>

Kracekumar.R
http://hasgeek.com
+91-8553029521


From dheepan at hashcube.com  Mon Jul  9 13:29:25 2012
From: dheepan at hashcube.com (Dheepan Chakravarthi)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 16:59:25 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] - Hash cube technologies - 6 Months Internship,
	2012.
Message-ID: <CAF6ACQdEcPxq9Mai-vF+2Z+SZ7yj7Rh+=CM7fPpBpqAkeiW2vQ@mail.gmail.com>

 6 Months Internship, 2012

Location: Bangalore, Karnataka, India

HashCube is a social gaming company based out of Bangalore. We want to
become the biggest casual game developer in the industry. We want to
develop a deep engineering driven culture in the company to the likes of
facebook. We focus on metrics and most of decisions in the company are
metrics driven

HashCube's games have more than 1.5 million users. HashCube owns the most
popular Sudoku app on Facebook.

We are looking for smart and passionate people that would help us achieve
this vision.

*What we look for*

   - Good problem solving skills
   - knowledge about algorithms and data structures
   - Experience in php/python
   - Portfolio of self started projects
   - Passion for puzzles
   - Familiarity with Linux
   - Knowledge about web technology and servers, mysql, shell scripts,
   version control systems (git prefered) is an advantage.
   - Be a Quick learner

*What we offer*

   - Work on interesting problems that affect millions of users
   - Exposure to technical challenges as well as the business challenges of
   a startup

To make your application stand out please include

   - source code or links to source code of projects you have worked on
   - link to your websites, blogs

If you are interested, Please reply to this mail your resume with subject
as [INTERN2012].

-- 
Best Regards,
Dheepan.
http://www.hashcube.com

From ppc.lists at gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 13:44:16 2012
From: ppc.lists at gmail.com (Pradip Caulagi)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 17:14:16 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django developer for a startup
Message-ID: <CAJ-amnc+o=4x2PehFDbz+bp0GnjSJ=jRrR7_375GAo-r7+t+oQ@mail.gmail.com>

Wwstay is a funded, profitable startup in the travel domain.  The team
has several years of industry experience and has started other
companies in the past.  We are looking to add the first couple of
developers to our team.  They will be extremely passionate and highly
motivated individuals who want to make a difference.  The job will
primarily involve development in Python using Django.  At the same
time, it will expose you to all aspects of web development, from
setting up a server and looking at the logs to writing JavaScript and
then some tests for that JavaScript as well.

Pre-requisites -

 * Send us a github/bitbucket url with any code you have written.  If
you haven't come across any interesting problem, create a simple web
app where people can submit recipes and view what others have posted.
 * You should have used an Unix environment for a couple of years.

A couple of years of work experience is good but not mandatory.  We
will consider exceptional fresh graduates.  Salary will depend on how
many parameters you satisfied at the end (do you write unit tests?).
<small>8 laks</small>

To apply, send a mail to careers at wwstay.com with your github/bitbucket
url.  *Don't send resumes*.

--
Pradip P Caulagi

From lawgon at gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 13:46:14 2012
From: lawgon at gmail.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 17:16:14 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django developer for a startup
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-amnc+o=4x2PehFDbz+bp0GnjSJ=jRrR7_375GAo-r7+t+oQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ-amnc+o=4x2PehFDbz+bp0GnjSJ=jRrR7_375GAo-r7+t+oQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1341834374.1425.7.camel@xlquest.net>

On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 17:14 +0530, Pradip Caulagi wrote:
> To apply, send a mail to careers at wwstay.com with your github/bitbucket
> url.  *Don't send resumes*. 

I wish more people would make this condition.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From dce3062 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 14:13:04 2012
From: dce3062 at gmail.com (Syed Armani)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 17:43:04 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django developer for a startup
In-Reply-To: <1341834374.1425.7.camel@xlquest.net>
References: <CAJ-amnc+o=4x2PehFDbz+bp0GnjSJ=jRrR7_375GAo-r7+t+oQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1341834374.1425.7.camel@xlquest.net>
Message-ID: <CAOGpe+F6g50QXpM_NLYsibjVf-+gWub45OiBYwzjaneytkKEXQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 17:14 +0530, Pradip Caulagi wrote:
> To apply, send a mail to careers at wwstay.com with your github/bitbucket
> url.  *Don't send resumes*.

Glad to see this, A very sensible approach :)

Cheers!
Syed

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 17:14 +0530, Pradip Caulagi wrote:
> > To apply, send a mail to careers at wwstay.com with your github/bitbucket
> > url.  *Don't send resumes*.
>
> I wish more people would make this condition.
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 18:20:31 2012
From: deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com (Deepak Garg)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 21:50:31 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] July meetup
Message-ID: <CAByQ+9_Pu0K_wkry-UBZweent4eGtN2+aR9Oh506giO0iZgMtA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

The July meetup is scheduled on Saturday July 21,  3:30 pm.
Please let know:

a. Suggestions for the meetup location.
b. If you would like to present something.
c. If any change in Date/time is reqd. because of some other event clashing
etc.



Cheers,
-- 

Deepak Garg,
Data Center and Cloud Div.
Citrix R&D, India

Github: https://github.com/gargdeepak
LinkedIn: http://in.linkedin.com/in/deepakgargiit
Slideshare:   http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/presentations
Skype-id: deepakgarg.iit

From anandagar at gmail.com  Wed Jul 11 21:19:59 2012
From: anandagar at gmail.com (Anand Agarwal)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 00:49:59 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django connection pooling using sqlalchemy connection
	pool
Message-ID: <CAE+Xr_+2Z08e8Q3A=Cb+UjLrv1PXu90B7z2Y5TyYf7RU37wx+g@mail.gmail.com>

As you know, Django  <https://www.djangoproject.com/>uses new database
connection for each request. This works well initially. However as the load
on the server increases, creating/destroying connections to database starts
taking significant amount of time.  You will find many questions about
using some kind of connection pooling for Django on sites like
StackOverflow   <http://stackoverflow.com/>For example, Django persistent
database connection.
<http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1125504/django-persistent-database-connection>

At BootStrapToday <http://bootstraptoday.com/> we use
sqlalchemy<http://www.sqlalchemy.org/>?s
connection pooling mechanism with Django for pooling the database
connections. We use variation of approach by Igor
Katson<http://stackoverflow.com/users/37511/igor-katson> described
in http://dumpz.org/67550/.  Igor?s approach requires patching Django which
we wanted to avoid. Hence we created a small function that we import in one
of __init__.py (or models.py) (i.e. some file which gets imported early in
the application startup).

Here is more detail on how we do it at
BootStrapToday<http://blog.bootstraptoday.com/2012/07/11/django-connection-pooling-using-sqlalchemy-connection-pool/>


Regards
Anand
http://bootstraptoday.com

From look4puneet at gmail.com  Thu Jul 12 19:23:49 2012
From: look4puneet at gmail.com (Puneet Aggarwal)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:53:49 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django Internship position
Message-ID: <CAEj4Y5vJBJP6Knn+N-QtSRugbTHg9fbafQSdrDhMrzf8mVkwWw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Looking for Fresh college graduates for Internship position at Noida. We
are a internet based startup started by IIT, BITS alumnus.
This is a full time opportunity and candidates will be paid stipend. Based
on the performance might be converted to full time employment opportunity.

Requirements for the internship:
? Strong passion for learning.
? Strong background in any of these languages C++/Python.
? Knowledge of Data-Structures and Algorithms.
? Experience using Linux/Unix.
* Knowledge of Django/web framework will be a plus.

Awards:
- Informal and entrepreneurial environment.
- Great learning opportunity
- Stipend will be paid

If any one interested please mail us at er.punit at gmail.com.

Thanks,
Puneet

From munichlinux at gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 06:40:44 2012
From: munichlinux at gmail.com (Prashanth)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:10:44 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django Internship position
In-Reply-To: <CAEj4Y5vJBJP6Knn+N-QtSRugbTHg9fbafQSdrDhMrzf8mVkwWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEj4Y5vJBJP6Knn+N-QtSRugbTHg9fbafQSdrDhMrzf8mVkwWw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALFjc12E_VTy2e+ZOB8+_zo7dt7u6nz5M25+QiXqtrpXoz1CLQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Puneet Aggarwal <look4puneet at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Looking for Fresh college graduates for Internship position at Noida. We
> are a internet based startup started by IIT, BITS alumnus.

*sigh* one more of a <IIT BITS IIM> keyword job posting. Do you think
you can get investor on board just by saying those keywords? If no,
how do you expect programmers to join you? How does your keywords
matter more than your idea and business model?

-- 
regards,
Prashanth

From b.ghose at gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 06:44:40 2012
From: b.ghose at gmail.com (Baishampayan Ghose)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:14:40 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django Internship position
In-Reply-To: <CALFjc12E_VTy2e+ZOB8+_zo7dt7u6nz5M25+QiXqtrpXoz1CLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEj4Y5vJBJP6Knn+N-QtSRugbTHg9fbafQSdrDhMrzf8mVkwWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALFjc12E_VTy2e+ZOB8+_zo7dt7u6nz5M25+QiXqtrpXoz1CLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ3UTYJ18k+7PogOGe-SatiADBzSuExVm6jBAVJ=M5AGpxGw8g@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Prashanth <munichlinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Looking for Fresh college graduates for Internship position at Noida. We
>> are a internet based startup started by IIT, BITS alumnus.
>
> *sigh* one more of a <IIT BITS IIM> keyword job posting. Do you think
> you can get investor on board just by saying those keywords? If no,
> how do you expect programmers to join you? How does your keywords
> matter more than your idea and business model?

It's not a business model, it's a way of life... :)

Regards,
BG

-- 
Baishampayan Ghose
b.ghose at gmail.com

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Fri Jul 13 07:21:24 2012
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:51:24 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django Internship position
In-Reply-To: <CALFjc12E_VTy2e+ZOB8+_zo7dt7u6nz5M25+QiXqtrpXoz1CLQ@mail.gmail.com>
	(Prashanth's message of "Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:10:44 +0530")
References: <CAEj4Y5vJBJP6Knn+N-QtSRugbTHg9fbafQSdrDhMrzf8mVkwWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALFjc12E_VTy2e+ZOB8+_zo7dt7u6nz5M25+QiXqtrpXoz1CLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87fw8wi6cr.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>

Prashanth <munichlinux at gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Puneet Aggarwal <look4puneet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Looking for Fresh college graduates for Internship position at Noida. We
>> are a internet based startup started by IIT, BITS alumnus.
>
> *sigh* one more of a <IIT BITS IIM> keyword job posting. Do you think
> you can get investor on board just by saying those keywords? If no,
> how do you expect programmers to join you? How does your keywords
> matter more than your idea and business model?

I wouldn't do it myself if I started a company, although that's probably
because I've not studied in any of those places, but this is similar in
intention to saying started by "a team of ex googlers" or "a team of ex
Amazon hackers" etc. 

The idea is to convey that the founding team is talented and has good
credentials. 

It is probably instructive to look at the extreme opposite. 

"We are an internet based startup founded by 3 guys who don't have a
formal education, are hardly literate and can't write a line of code to
save their lives but badly want to jump onto the startup bandwagon
because it's th3 aw3s0me!"

-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com  Fri Jul 13 11:49:52 2012
From: deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com (Deepak Garg)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:19:52 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django Internship position
In-Reply-To: <CAEj4Y5vJBJP6Knn+N-QtSRugbTHg9fbafQSdrDhMrzf8mVkwWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEj4Y5vJBJP6Knn+N-QtSRugbTHg9fbafQSdrDhMrzf8mVkwWw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAByQ+9_tfa0sPUqg-yygQFoW4aZ6jbZp05aL=N_tGKHbFi1B_Q@mail.gmail.com>

HI Puneet,

Please dont mind any of the comments and take all the critics
constructively.

"We are a internet based startup started by IIT, BITS alumnus."

You have not mentioned the name of the company and more than that 'the work
you do'. This line gives a feeling that your background matters more than
your work and what you believe. I am not sure how will this attract serious
candidates.



Deepak



On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Puneet Aggarwal <look4puneet at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Looking for Fresh college graduates for Internship position at Noida. We
> are a internet based startup started by IIT, BITS alumnus.
> This is a full time opportunity and candidates will be paid stipend. Based
> on the performance might be converted to full time employment opportunity.
>
> Requirements for the internship:
> ? Strong passion for learning.
> ? Strong background in any of these languages C++/Python.
> ? Knowledge of Data-Structures and Algorithms.
> ? Experience using Linux/Unix.
> * Knowledge of Django/web framework will be a plus.
>
> Awards:
> - Informal and entrepreneurial environment.
> - Great learning opportunity
> - Stipend will be paid
>
> If any one interested please mail us at er.punit at gmail.com.
>
> Thanks,
> Puneet
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 

Deepak Garg,
Data Center and Cloud Div.
Citrix R&D, India

Github: https://github.com/gargdeepak
LinkedIn: http://in.linkedin.com/in/deepakgargiit
Slideshare:   http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/presentations
Skype-id: deepakgarg.iit

From vsapre80 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 10:02:43 2012
From: vsapre80 at gmail.com (Vishal)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 13:32:43 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] reload modules at the start of an app..
Message-ID: <CACPguY-v-bOHk6jz4anA+fjTfXhi1k1CLbM8RGLuJQj94gH0JA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Wanted to find what you think about reloading modules just before app
start. This is to take care of repeated debugging sessions inside IDEs,
where changed 'py' files are not imported automatically by the IDE.

One simple way of having everything reloaded is to do:

import sys
for mod in sys.modules.keys():
    try:
        result = reload(__import__(mod))
    except:
        pass

the 'result' is string that gets returned from reload(). so we simply
consume it and dont allow it to be sent to stdout, otherwise you will get a
long print out of reloaded modules.
reload() will throw exceptions when it cannot reload a module, but these
are again silenced above.
This snippet will allow reloading of all modules that have been loaded till
this point. So it should be at the end of all module imports in your
application...ideally just before the 'main' function is called in your app.

Any views on this approach? Pros/Cons/Better Approaches... etc

Best regards,
Vishal Sapre

---
Please DONT print this email, unless you really need to. Save Energy &
Paper. Save the Earth.

From vsapre80 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 10:40:34 2012
From: vsapre80 at gmail.com (Vishal)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:10:34 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] reload modules at the start of an app..
In-Reply-To: <CACPguY-v-bOHk6jz4anA+fjTfXhi1k1CLbM8RGLuJQj94gH0JA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACPguY-v-bOHk6jz4anA+fjTfXhi1k1CLbM8RGLuJQj94gH0JA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACPguY8Os0pPFk_E3EMj8Hjr9dZBDKe26=NfhF9GEGYybjjvag@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Vishal <vsapre80 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Wanted to find what you think about reloading modules just before app
> start. This is to take care of repeated debugging sessions inside IDEs,
> where changed 'py' files are not imported automatically by the IDE.
>
> One simple way of having everything reloaded is to do:
>
> import sys
> for mod in sys.modules.keys():
>     try:
>         result = reload(__import__(mod))
>     except:
>         pass
>
> the 'result' is string that gets returned from reload(). so we simply
> consume it and dont allow it to be sent to stdout, otherwise you will get a
> long print out of reloaded modules.
> reload() will throw exceptions when it cannot reload a module, but these
> are again silenced above.
> This snippet will allow reloading of all modules that have been loaded
> till this point. So it should be at the end of all module imports in your
> application...ideally just before the 'main' function is called in your app.
>
> Any views on this approach? Pros/Cons/Better Approaches... etc
>
> Best regards,
> Vishal Sapre
>
> ---
> Please DONT print this email, unless you really need to. Save Energy &
> Paper. Save the Earth.
>
>
One of the biggest cons is that, this approach has to potential to almost
'double' your app start up time. However for small (say upto 10 modules of
each not more than 50K), this approach works out fine.

-- 
Thanks and best regards,
Vishal Sapre

---
Please DONT print this email, unless you really need to. Save Energy &
Paper. Save the Earth.

From deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 14:40:26 2012
From: deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com (Deepak Garg)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 18:10:26 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] July meetup
In-Reply-To: <CAByQ+9_Pu0K_wkry-UBZweent4eGtN2+aR9Oh506giO0iZgMtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAByQ+9_Pu0K_wkry-UBZweent4eGtN2+aR9Oh506giO0iZgMtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAByQ+9-vpWrJDMqp4pzOikuHEgfuOqg=B9eSVFtQSns8WaONkA@mail.gmail.com>

The meetup is scheduled for next Saturday. Please suggest a Venue and if
anyone would like to present anything.



Thanks,
Deepak




On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Deepak Garg <deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> Hi All,
>
> The July meetup is scheduled on Saturday July 21,  3:30 pm.
> Please let know:
>
> a. Suggestions for the meetup location.
> b. If you would like to present something.
> c. If any change in Date/time is reqd. because of some other event
> clashing etc.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> --
>
> Deepak Garg,
> Data Center and Cloud Div.
> Citrix R&D, India
>
> Github: https://github.com/gargdeepak
> LinkedIn: http://in.linkedin.com/in/deepakgargiit
> Slideshare:   http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/presentations
> Skype-id: deepakgarg.iit
>
>
>


-- 

Deepak Garg,
Data Center and Cloud Div.
Citrix R&D, India

Github: https://github.com/gargdeepak
LinkedIn: http://in.linkedin.com/in/deepakgargiit
Slideshare:   http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/presentations
Skype-id: deepakgarg.iit

From shabda at agiliq.com  Sat Jul 14 17:34:43 2012
From: shabda at agiliq.com (Shabda Raaj)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:04:43 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Summary of the July Python Hyderabad Meetup.
Message-ID: <CALTVfMEJw8Hv36dUx7+ipSGwZquQ+g9CEiY2rN5bdN4x6novBA@mail.gmail.com>

We had the Python July Hyderabad Meetup at Lamakaan.

5 people Turned up.

Mohsin from Bank of America
Rakesh from Mutual Mobile
Uday from Mutual Mobile
Akshar from Agiliq
Shabda from Agiliq

We had an interesting discussion about SL4A.
I demoed the Python for IOS app.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/python-for-ios/id485729872?mt=8.
Akshar gave a talk on Python Object creation lifecycle.

See you next month.

[Copying BangPypers mailing list, as we probably have a lot of people who
move between Hyd and Bengaluru, and we could do with a larger Python
community in Hyderabad.]



-- 
Thanks,
Shabda

Agiliq.com - Building Amazing Apps
agiliq.com/blog/ | github.com/agiliq
US: +13152854388 | IN: +919949997612 | Skype: shabda.raaj


Read our books on Amazon:
Django Design Patterns<http://www.amazon.com/Django-Design-Patterns-ebook/dp/B006OYO9SK/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1>
|
Djen of Django<http://www.amazon.com/The-Djen-of-Django-ebook/dp/B006P1K0YY/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2>

From deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com  Sat Jul 14 18:55:28 2012
From: deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com (Deepak Garg)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:25:28 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Summary of the July Python Hyderabad Meetup.
In-Reply-To: <CALTVfMEJw8Hv36dUx7+ipSGwZquQ+g9CEiY2rN5bdN4x6novBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALTVfMEJw8Hv36dUx7+ipSGwZquQ+g9CEiY2rN5bdN4x6novBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAByQ+9927wBYGKrY+zPZBp-fE7F0DV_tjaZih4gp7YzbpmNNDA@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, SL4A..

Are people using it in production ?

I had heard that the performance and power consumption are issues with it
as compared to Java.

Please let me know the use case you have for using SL4A (besides that it is
fun :) ) .



Deepak


On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Shabda Raaj <shabda at agiliq.com> wrote:

> We had the Python July Hyderabad Meetup at Lamakaan.
>
> 5 people Turned up.
>
> Mohsin from Bank of America
> Rakesh from Mutual Mobile
> Uday from Mutual Mobile
> Akshar from Agiliq
> Shabda from Agiliq
>
> We had an interesting discussion about SL4A.
> I demoed the Python for IOS app.
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/python-for-ios/id485729872?mt=8.
> Akshar gave a talk on Python Object creation lifecycle.
>
> See you next month.
>
> [Copying BangPypers mailing list, as we probably have a lot of people who
> move between Hyd and Bengaluru, and we could do with a larger Python
> community in Hyderabad.]
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Shabda
>
> Agiliq.com - Building Amazing Apps
> agiliq.com/blog/ | github.com/agiliq
> US: +13152854388 | IN: +919949997612 | Skype: shabda.raaj
>
>
> Read our books on Amazon:
> Django Design Patterns<
> http://www.amazon.com/Django-Design-Patterns-ebook/dp/B006OYO9SK/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1
> >
> |
> Djen of Django<
> http://www.amazon.com/The-Djen-of-Django-ebook/dp/B006P1K0YY/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2
> >
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 

Deepak Garg,
Data Center and Cloud Div.
Citrix R&D, India

Github: https://github.com/gargdeepak
LinkedIn: http://in.linkedin.com/in/deepakgargiit
Slideshare:   http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/presentations
Skype-id: deepakgarg.iit

From anandology at gmail.com  Mon Jul 16 15:46:36 2012
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:16:36 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] July meetup
In-Reply-To: <CAByQ+9-vpWrJDMqp4pzOikuHEgfuOqg=B9eSVFtQSns8WaONkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAByQ+9_Pu0K_wkry-UBZweent4eGtN2+aR9Oh506giO0iZgMtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAByQ+9-vpWrJDMqp4pzOikuHEgfuOqg=B9eSVFtQSns8WaONkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC7wXFwLeRUxzxZ3Rmrh2NzbNiBOYzg=x031B6Ntftm62ZjXTA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Deepak Garg <deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com> wrote:
> The meetup is scheduled for next Saturday. Please suggest a Venue and if
> anyone would like to present anything.

Just got confirmation that we can have the meeting at CIS, Bangalore.

Venue:

    Center of Internet and Society, Bangalore
    No. 194, Second 'C' Cross, Domlur,
    2nd Stage, Bangalore - 560071,
    Karnataka, India

Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=CIS+Domlur+Bangalore

Date: Saturday, July 21
Time: 3PM to 6PM

Deepak, can you please update the meetup page?

Anand

From skksundar at yahoo.co.in  Fri Jul 20 08:26:53 2012
From: skksundar at yahoo.co.in (Senthil)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:26:53 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
Message-ID: <1342765613.55218.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I have setup web2py, mod_wsgi on a centos5.8 machine to run on apache. 


But i keep getting the 403 forbidden error. Am not sure what am doing wrong here .

Pasting the file that i have included as additional conf, below.

Please help me/ provide some pointers on the same\

<VirtualHost *:80>
? ServerName web2py.example.com
? WSGIDaemonProcess web2py user=apache group=apache \
?????????????????????????? display-name=%{GROUP}
? WSGIProcessGroup web2py
? WSGIScriptAlias /wpy /root/web2py/web2py/wsgihandler.py

? <Directory /root/web2py/web2py>
??? AllowOverride None
??? Order Allow,Deny
??? Deny from all
??? <Files wsgihandler.py>
????? Allow from all
??? </Files>
? </Directory>

? AliasMatch ^/([^/]+)/static/(.*) \
?????????? /root/web2py/web2py/applications/$1/static/$2
? <Directory /root/web2py/web2py/applications/*/static/>
??? Order Allow,Deny
??? Allow from all
? </Directory>

? <Location /admin>
? Deny from all
? </Location>

? <LocationMatch ^/([^/]+)/appadmin>
? Deny from all
? </LocationMatch>

? CustomLog /usr/apache/logs/access.log common
? ErrorLog /usr/apache/logs/error.log
</VirtualHost>


Awaiting your valuable response.

Thanks.
Regards,
Senthilkumaran Sundaramurthi.

From lawgon at gmail.com  Fri Jul 20 08:48:07 2012
From: lawgon at gmail.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:18:07 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
In-Reply-To: <1342765613.55218.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
References: <1342765613.55218.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1342766887.1444.33.camel@xlquest.net>

On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 14:26 +0800, Senthil wrote:
> But i keep getting the 403 forbidden error. Am not sure what am doing
> wrong here .

chmod -R 755 /path_to_static/
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From vid at svaksha.com  Fri Jul 20 11:18:18 2012
From: vid at svaksha.com (vid)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:48:18 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] missing dependency while installing virtualenvwrapper
	on ubuntu-12.04
Message-ID: <CAN9ztG_0UO5PgSt-BmqtoC+koGv1jOxPYA0TTa-RV2TAA8HkOQ@mail.gmail.com>

An upgrade to ubuntu 12.04 gives this error:

$ sudo pip install virtualenvwrapper
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/pip", line 5, in <module>
    from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 2711,
in <module>
    parse_requirements(__requires__), Environment()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 584, in resolve
    raise DistributionNotFound(req)
pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: pip==1.1

Is it a missing (or just not versioned) dependency or packaging error?

TIA.

Regards,
Vid
? http://svaksha.com ?

From skksundar at yahoo.co.in  Fri Jul 20 11:18:50 2012
From: skksundar at yahoo.co.in (Senthil)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:18:50 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
In-Reply-To: <1342766887.1444.33.camel@xlquest.net>
References: <1342765613.55218.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342766887.1444.33.camel@xlquest.net>
Message-ID: <1342775930.28397.YahooMailNeo@web193506.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>

But i have already set that. The only difference is i have given all permissions to all, meaning

chmod -R 777 /path_to_static/

Thanks.
Senthilkumaran Sundaramurthi.



________________________________
 From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at gmail.com>
To: Senthil <skksundar at yahoo.co.in>; Bangalore Python Users Group - India <bangpypers at python.org> 
Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
 
On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 14:26 +0800, Senthil wrote:
> But i keep getting the 403 forbidden error. Am not sure what am doing
> wrong here .

chmod -R 755 /path_to_static/
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Fri Jul 20 11:18:34 2012
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:48:34 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] missing dependency while installing
	virtualenvwrapper on ubuntu-12.04
In-Reply-To: <CAN9ztG_0UO5PgSt-BmqtoC+koGv1jOxPYA0TTa-RV2TAA8HkOQ@mail.gmail.com>
	(vid@svaksha.com's message of "Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:48:18 +0530")
References: <CAN9ztG_0UO5PgSt-BmqtoC+koGv1jOxPYA0TTa-RV2TAA8HkOQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87eho6x02d.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>



vid <vid at svaksha.com> writes:

> An upgrade to ubuntu 12.04 gives this error:
>
> $ sudo pip install virtualenvwrapper
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/local/bin/pip", line 5, in <module>
>     from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 2711,
> in <module>
>     parse_requirements(__requires__), Environment()
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 584, in resolve
>     raise DistributionNotFound(req)
> pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: pip==1.1
>
> Is it a missing (or just not versioned) dependency or packaging error?

Looks like the package metadata is getting messed up because of a non Ubuntu pip
(/usr/local/bin) and an Ubuntu Python.

I'd recommend that you either `apt-get install virtualenvwrapper` and
use that to manage your venvs or `apt-get install python-virtualenv`,
use that to create a virtualenv and install virtualenvwrapper inside
that venv and use that. 

Using `sudo` to install something that touches system directories
(thereby bypassing the native package management framework) is usually
the first step to a broken system.

[...]


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From kracethekingmaker at gmail.com  Fri Jul 20 11:34:44 2012
From: kracethekingmaker at gmail.com (kracethekingmaker)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:04:44 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] missing dependency while installing
 virtualenvwrapper on ubuntu-12.04
In-Reply-To: <87eho6x02d.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
References: <CAN9ztG_0UO5PgSt-BmqtoC+koGv1jOxPYA0TTa-RV2TAA8HkOQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<87eho6x02d.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
Message-ID: <50092634.3010602@gmail.com>

I had similar issue when I upgraded, Update virtualenvwrapper, and try 
to create new venv it works but older ones fail. This bug is reported in 
launchpad. I tweeted about this in beginning of april but I couldn't get 
hold of it now.
>
> vid<vid at svaksha.com>  writes:
>
>> An upgrade to ubuntu 12.04 gives this error:
>>
>> $ sudo pip install virtualenvwrapper
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>    File "/usr/local/bin/pip", line 5, in<module>
>>      from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
>>    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 2711,
>> in<module>
>>      parse_requirements(__requires__), Environment()
>>    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 584, in resolve
>>      raise DistributionNotFound(req)
>> pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: pip==1.1
>>
>> Is it a missing (or just not versioned) dependency or packaging error?
> Looks like the package metadata is getting messed up because of a non Ubuntu pip
> (/usr/local/bin) and an Ubuntu Python.
>
> I'd recommend that you either `apt-get install virtualenvwrapper` and
> use that to manage your venvs or `apt-get install python-virtualenv`,
> use that to create a virtualenv and install virtualenvwrapper inside
> that venv and use that.
>
> Using `sudo` to install something that touches system directories
> (thereby bypassing the native package management framework) is usually
> the first step to a broken system.
>
> [...]
>
>


-- 
"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus Torvalds
Regards
Kracekumar.R
www.kracekumar.com


From vid at svaksha.com  Fri Jul 20 11:45:13 2012
From: vid at svaksha.com (vid)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:15:13 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] missing dependency while installing
 virtualenvwrapper on ubuntu-12.04
In-Reply-To: <87eho6x02d.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
References: <CAN9ztG_0UO5PgSt-BmqtoC+koGv1jOxPYA0TTa-RV2TAA8HkOQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<87eho6x02d.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
Message-ID: <CAN9ztG8QvoFv4SOsg-SzvVkPQJdn4NgZ4kDn62dWLty5PwxJFw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>
> Looks like the package metadata is getting messed up because of a non Ubuntu pip
> (/usr/local/bin) and an Ubuntu Python.

Yup, back then (10.04 lts, which is what I stick to for dev stuff) I
had installed virtualenvwrapper using pip, which is why the upgrade
broke the old virtualenvwrapper -- lucid and precise use different
python versions(?).

> I'd recommend that you either `apt-get install virtualenvwrapper` and

Never used the OS sandbox package. With pip the virtualenvwrapper is
restricted to a single directory (say, Env) in /home. I'm guessing
this wont change?

-- 
Regards,
Vid
? http://svaksha.com ?

From vid at svaksha.com  Fri Jul 20 11:51:27 2012
From: vid at svaksha.com (vid)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:21:27 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] missing dependency while installing
 virtualenvwrapper on ubuntu-12.04
In-Reply-To: <50092634.3010602@gmail.com>
References: <CAN9ztG_0UO5PgSt-BmqtoC+koGv1jOxPYA0TTa-RV2TAA8HkOQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<87eho6x02d.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
	<50092634.3010602@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN9ztG9k7nhcEcSCABwxTMb5Dhg-cR3Mxis+VJFWuhYzKyNSkw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:04 PM, kracethekingmaker
<kracethekingmaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> I had similar issue when I upgraded, Update virtualenvwrapper, and try to
> create new venv it works but older ones fail.

I think it breaks because lucid and precise are packaged for different
python versions.
I am not sure how to tweak the env to use the older python versions
(say 2.6 on precise pangolin) within virtualenvwrapper -- will try and
let you know.

-- 
Regards,
Vid
? http://svaksha.com ?

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Fri Jul 20 11:46:52 2012
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:16:52 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] missing dependency while installing
	virtualenvwrapper on ubuntu-12.04
In-Reply-To: <CAN9ztG8QvoFv4SOsg-SzvVkPQJdn4NgZ4kDn62dWLty5PwxJFw@mail.gmail.com>
	(vid@svaksha.com's message of "Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:15:13 +0530")
References: <CAN9ztG_0UO5PgSt-BmqtoC+koGv1jOxPYA0TTa-RV2TAA8HkOQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<87eho6x02d.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
	<CAN9ztG8QvoFv4SOsg-SzvVkPQJdn4NgZ4kDn62dWLty5PwxJFw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <878veewyr7.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>

vid <vid at svaksha.com> writes:

> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>>
>> Looks like the package metadata is getting messed up because of a non Ubuntu pip
>> (/usr/local/bin) and an Ubuntu Python.
>
> Yup, back then (10.04 lts, which is what I stick to for dev stuff) I
> had installed virtualenvwrapper using pip, which is why the upgrade
> broke the old virtualenvwrapper -- lucid and precise use different
> python versions(?).

I don't use Ubuntu but you're probably correct. Any modifications you
make to the installed system package outside of apt need to be manually
fixed during an upgrade. This usually, as I hinted to earlier, becomes a
road block.


>> I'd recommend that you either `apt-get install virtualenvwrapper` and
>
> Never used the OS sandbox package. With pip the virtualenvwrapper is
> restricted to a single directory (say, Env) in /home. I'm guessing
> this wont change?

I don't understand your question but virtualenvwrapper installed from
apt and from PyPI will be the same except for the possibility that the
ubuntu packaged version will be slightly older than what you get from
PyPI.

-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From kracethekingmaker at gmail.com  Fri Jul 20 11:55:02 2012
From: kracethekingmaker at gmail.com (kracethekingmaker)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:25:02 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] missing dependency while installing
 virtualenvwrapper on ubuntu-12.04
In-Reply-To: <CAN9ztG9k7nhcEcSCABwxTMb5Dhg-cR3Mxis+VJFWuhYzKyNSkw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN9ztG_0UO5PgSt-BmqtoC+koGv1jOxPYA0TTa-RV2TAA8HkOQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<87eho6x02d.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
	<50092634.3010602@gmail.com>
	<CAN9ztG9k7nhcEcSCABwxTMb5Dhg-cR3Mxis+VJFWuhYzKyNSkw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50092AF6.8010201@gmail.com>

On 07/20/2012 03:21 PM, vid wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:04 PM, kracethekingmaker
> <kracethekingmaker at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> I had similar issue when I upgraded, Update virtualenvwrapper, and try to
>> create new venv it works but older ones fail.
> I think it breaks because lucid and precise are packaged for different
> python versions.
> I am not sure how to tweak the env to use the older python versions
> (say 2.6 on precise pangolin) within virtualenvwrapper -- will try and
> let you know.
oh, best bet to sudo pip install virtualenvwrapper and try :)


-- 
"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus Torvalds
Regards
Kracekumar.R
www.kracekumar.com


From lawgon at gmail.com  Fri Jul 20 12:44:46 2012
From: lawgon at gmail.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:14:46 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
In-Reply-To: <1342775930.28397.YahooMailNeo@web193506.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
References: <1342765613.55218.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342766887.1444.33.camel@xlquest.net>
	<1342775930.28397.YahooMailNeo@web193506.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1342781086.1444.56.camel@xlquest.net>

On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 17:18 +0800, Senthil wrote:
> But i have already set that. The only difference is i have given all
> permissions to all, meaning 
> 
> chmod -R 777 /path_to_static/ 

there *are* easier ways to commit suicide! Disable selinux and see if it
helps.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From lawgon at gmail.com  Fri Jul 20 12:49:38 2012
From: lawgon at gmail.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:19:38 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] missing dependency while installing
 virtualenvwrapper on ubuntu-12.04
In-Reply-To: <50092AF6.8010201@gmail.com>
References: <CAN9ztG_0UO5PgSt-BmqtoC+koGv1jOxPYA0TTa-RV2TAA8HkOQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<87eho6x02d.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <50092634.3010602@gmail.com>
	<CAN9ztG9k7nhcEcSCABwxTMb5Dhg-cR3Mxis+VJFWuhYzKyNSkw@mail.gmail.com>
	<50092AF6.8010201@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1342781378.1444.58.camel@xlquest.net>

On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 15:25 +0530, kracethekingmaker wrote:
> "Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus Torvalds

this quote taken out of context has caused enough trouble in the open
source community, please read the whole thread to understand the
context. Start here:

https://lkml.org/lkml/2000/8/26/52

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From skksundar at yahoo.co.in  Fri Jul 20 14:09:06 2012
From: skksundar at yahoo.co.in (Senthil)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:09:06 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
In-Reply-To: <1342781086.1444.56.camel@xlquest.net>
References: <1342765613.55218.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342766887.1444.33.camel@xlquest.net>
	<1342775930.28397.YahooMailNeo@web193506.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342781086.1444.56.camel@xlquest.net>
Message-ID: <1342786146.73681.YahooMailNeo@web193503.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>

Hi Kenneth,

I have changed the permissions to 755 and have disabled the selinux already  Still no luck...


Thanks.
Senthilkumaran Sundaramurthi.



________________________________
 From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at gmail.com>
To: Senthil <skksundar at yahoo.co.in> 
Cc: Bangalore Python Users Group - India <bangpypers at python.org> 
Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
 
On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 17:18 +0800, Senthil wrote:
> But i have already set that. The only difference is i have given all
> permissions to all, meaning 
> 
> chmod -R 777 /path_to_static/ 

there *are* easier ways to commit suicide! Disable selinux and see if it
helps.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves

From lawgon at gmail.com  Fri Jul 20 14:25:11 2012
From: lawgon at gmail.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:55:11 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
In-Reply-To: <1342786146.73681.YahooMailNeo@web193503.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
References: <1342765613.55218.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342766887.1444.33.camel@xlquest.net>
	<1342775930.28397.YahooMailNeo@web193506.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342781086.1444.56.camel@xlquest.net>
	<1342786146.73681.YahooMailNeo@web193503.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1342787111.1444.88.camel@xlquest.net>

On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 20:09 +0800, Senthil wrote:
> I have changed the permissions to 755 and have disabled the selinux
> already :( sad Still no luck... 

are you by any chance using firefox - I find that very often firefox
cache is the culprit - even clearing the cache does not help. Sometimes
it takes hours to work. Can you give the output of apache error logs -
maybe you have a typo somewhere.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From skksundar at yahoo.co.in  Fri Jul 20 14:43:15 2012
From: skksundar at yahoo.co.in (Senthil)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:43:15 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
In-Reply-To: <1342787111.1444.88.camel@xlquest.net>
References: <1342765613.55218.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342766887.1444.33.camel@xlquest.net>
	<1342775930.28397.YahooMailNeo@web193506.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342781086.1444.56.camel@xlquest.net>
	<1342786146.73681.YahooMailNeo@web193503.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342787111.1444.88.camel@xlquest.net>
Message-ID: <1342788195.36202.YahooMailNeo@web193506.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>

Kenneth,

I tried it over IE, Firefox and Chrome. All had the same result.

This is the last line of error i got when i typed in http://server/
[Fri Jul 20 15:37:51 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied
[Fri Jul 20 15:37:51 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to /favicon.ico denied
[Fri Jul 20 15:38:06 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied
[Fri Jul 20 15:38:06 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to /favicon.ico denied
[Fri Jul 20 15:38:29 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to /wpy denied
[Fri Jul 20 15:39:06 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to /wpy denied
[Fri Jul 20 15:54:15 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to /~ssenthil denied
[Fri Jul 20 15:54:20 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied
[Fri Jul 20 15:54:23 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied
[Fri Jul 20 15:54:33 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to /~ssenthil denied
[Fri Jul 20 15:57:50 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to /~ssenthil denied
[Fri Jul 20 15:58:00 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to /~ssenthil/ denied
[Fri Jul 20 15:58:01 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to /favicon.ico denied
[Fri Jul 20 15:58:03 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied
[Fri Jul 20 15:58:03 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to /favicon.ico denied
[Fri Jul 20 16:01:45 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied
[Fri Jul 20 16:01:45 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to /favicon.ico denied
[Fri Jul 20 16:01:52 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied
[Fri Jul 20 16:01:52 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to /favicon.ico denied
[Fri Jul 20 17:26:35 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied
[Fri Jul 20 17:27:37 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to /~ssenthil denied
[Fri Jul 20 17:28:10 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied
[Fri Jul 20 17:54:33 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied
[Fri Jul 20 17:54:33 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to /favicon.ico denied
[Fri Jul 20 18:02:21 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied
[Fri Jul 20 18:02:39 2012] [error] [client 10.16.14.254] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied

Thanks.
Senthilkumaran Sundaramurthi.



________________________________
 From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at gmail.com>
To: Senthil <skksundar at yahoo.co.in> 
Cc: Bangalore Python Users Group - India <bangpypers at python.org> 
Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
 
On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 20:09 +0800, Senthil wrote:
> I have changed the permissions to 755 and have disabled the selinux
> already :( sad Still no luck... 

are you by any chance using firefox - I find that very often firefox
cache is the culprit - even clearing the cache does not help. Sometimes
it takes hours to work. Can you give the output of apache error logs -
maybe you have a typo somewhere.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves

From gora at mimirtech.com  Fri Jul 20 15:03:58 2012
From: gora at mimirtech.com (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 18:33:58 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
In-Reply-To: <1342788195.36202.YahooMailNeo@web193506.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
References: <1342765613.55218.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342766887.1444.33.camel@xlquest.net>
	<1342775930.28397.YahooMailNeo@web193506.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342781086.1444.56.camel@xlquest.net>
	<1342786146.73681.YahooMailNeo@web193503.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342787111.1444.88.camel@xlquest.net>
	<1342788195.36202.YahooMailNeo@web193506.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CACiMRGL0jjH7Eft9osbei5h8NiYbfkhmpGFdfTE+CCKTP+=JSg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

While I am far from being an expert in setting up Apache,
there seem to be several things wrong with your Apache
config.
1. Your ServerName is wrong unless you have aliased it
    locally, or are hosting on example.com :-)
2. Your WSGIScriptAlias is at /wpy , but in some cases
    you are accessing /
3. The Order parameter for <Directory /root/web2py/web2py>
    should be Order Deny,Allow so as to match the rest of
    the steps:
    http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_access.html#order

4. This is off-topic for the list :-)

Regards,
Gora

From skksundar at yahoo.co.in  Fri Jul 20 15:07:34 2012
From: skksundar at yahoo.co.in (Senthil)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:07:34 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
In-Reply-To: <CACiMRGL0jjH7Eft9osbei5h8NiYbfkhmpGFdfTE+CCKTP+=JSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1342765613.55218.YahooMailNeo@web193502.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342766887.1444.33.camel@xlquest.net>
	<1342775930.28397.YahooMailNeo@web193506.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342781086.1444.56.camel@xlquest.net>
	<1342786146.73681.YahooMailNeo@web193503.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1342787111.1444.88.camel@xlquest.net>
	<1342788195.36202.YahooMailNeo@web193506.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<CACiMRGL0jjH7Eft9osbei5h8NiYbfkhmpGFdfTE+CCKTP+=JSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1342789654.67728.YahooMailNeo@web193505.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>

Hey Gora,

Thanks for this piece of advice. Will try these out and will let you know.

Senthilkumaran Sundaramurthi.



________________________________
 From: Gora Mohanty <gora at mimirtech.com>
To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India <bangpypers at python.org> 
Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
 
Hi,

While I am far from being an expert in setting up Apache,
there seem to be several things wrong with your Apache
config.
1. Your ServerName is wrong unless you have aliased it
? ? locally, or are hosting on example.com :-)
2. Your WSGIScriptAlias is at /wpy , but in some cases
? ? you are accessing /
3. The Order parameter for <Directory /root/web2py/web2py>
? ? should be Order Deny,Allow so as to match the rest of
? ? the steps:
? ? http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_access.html#order

4. This is off-topic for the list :-)

Regards,
Gora
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From skksundar at yahoo.co.in  Fri Jul 20 15:26:00 2012
From: skksundar at yahoo.co.in (Senthil)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:26:00 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
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Gora,

After making those changes, am still facing the same issue.

thanks.
Senthilkumaran Sundaramurthi.



________________________________
 From: Gora Mohanty <gora at mimirtech.com>
To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India <bangpypers at python.org> 
Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
 
Hi,

While I am far from being an expert in setting up Apache,
there seem to be several things wrong with your Apache
config.
1. Your ServerName is wrong unless you have aliased it
? ? locally, or are hosting on example.com :-)
2. Your WSGIScriptAlias is at /wpy , but in some cases
? ? you are accessing /
3. The Order parameter for <Directory /root/web2py/web2py>
? ? should be Order Deny,Allow so as to match the rest of
? ? the steps:
? ? http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_access.html#order

4. This is off-topic for the list :-)

Regards,
Gora
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From lawgon at gmail.com  Sat Jul 21 07:53:13 2012
From: lawgon at gmail.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:23:13 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
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On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 20:43 +0800, Senthil wrote:
> I tried it over IE, Firefox and Chrome. All had the same result.

cd to /, do ls -al and paste the output here
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From karra.etc at gmail.com  Mon Jul 23 14:16:00 2012
From: karra.etc at gmail.com (Sriram Karra)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:46:00 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [X-POST] Introducing PRS: a web-app in
 Python+SQLAlchemy+Tornado for clinic patient record maintenance
Message-ID: <CAFkt3UP2Wp3N=BDpL-p=ZFi9cbw8sXvnFUKung47kzrwav2Ejg@mail.gmail.com>

I am associated with a charity clinic in Delhi through a relative who is a
consulting doctor there. On his request I have developed a very simple
patient history and record management system on a full python stack and
released under the GNU Affero GPL. PRS is written as a web application, and
comes bundled with the Tornado webserver. As such it is intended to run on
a desktop (Linux, Windows or Mac) without internet connectivity but can
also be deployed on a server and accessed through the network (see below).

The clinic staff are currently evaluating the software, and I expect this
to go "into production" in the next month or two. So it is somewhat stable
- in beta status, and there will be many opportunities for small features
and enhancements. It could also be extended to support work flows in other
clinics as well. As such it is a good opportunity for college students or
others interested in playing with a fully functional Python based web
application, while contributing to open source.

I invite you to browse the source code
at:https://github.com/skarra/PRSand/or give the application a spin
here:
http://ec2-107-21-172-206.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8765/ (This is hosted on
a free AWS instance and will be very very slow. Only meant for a very quick
peek; it is definitely recommended that you clone the git repo and give it
a try beyond a few preliminary clicks)

I am happy to mentor any students interested in playing with PRS and
improving it in the process. If you know of any other organization who can
use a software like this, please go ahead and fork it.

NOTE: It only runs on Chrome for now.

-Karra

From lawgon at gmail.com  Mon Jul 23 14:27:18 2012
From: lawgon at gmail.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:57:18 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [X-POST] Introducing PRS: a web-app in
 Python+SQLAlchemy+Tornado for clinic patient record maintenance
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On Mon, 2012-07-23 at 17:46 +0530, Sriram Karra wrote:
> I invite you to browse the source code
> at:https://github.com/skarra/PRSand/or give the application a spin
> here: 

am getting a 404
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From benignbala at gmail.com  Mon Jul 23 14:29:41 2012
From: benignbala at gmail.com (Balachandran Sivakumar)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:59:41 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [X-POST] Introducing PRS: a web-app in
 Python+SQLAlchemy+Tornado for clinic patient record maintenance
In-Reply-To: <1343046438.1594.64.camel@xlquest.net>
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Hi,

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-07-23 at 17:46 +0530, Sriram Karra wrote:
>> I invite you to browse the source code
>> at:https://github.com/skarra/PRSand/or give the application a spin
>> here:
>
> am getting a 404

      I guess he meant https://github.com/skarra/PRS Thanks

-- 
Thank you
Balachandran Sivakumar

Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached.
                                                             - Swami Vivekananda

Mail: benignbala at gmail.com
Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/

From lawgon at gmail.com  Mon Jul 23 14:40:02 2012
From: lawgon at gmail.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:10:02 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [X-POST] Introducing PRS: a web-app in
 Python+SQLAlchemy+Tornado for clinic patient record maintenance
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On Mon, 2012-07-23 at 17:59 +0530, Balachandran Sivakumar wrote:
> > am getting a 404
> 
>       I guess he meant https://github.com/skarra/PRS Thanks 

figured it out - sorry for the noise.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From lawgon at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 13:26:31 2012
From: lawgon at gmail.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:56:31 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
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On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 18:43 +0800, Senthil wrote:
> My app is under the directory /root/web2py/web2py. Sorry about the
> late reply.

and if you notice, that does not have 755 permissions - and it is not a
very healthy thing to put apps under /root - but it is your funeral!
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From amit.pureenergy at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 16:05:29 2012
From: amit.pureenergy at gmail.com (Amit Sethi)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:35:29 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Any standard way in which i can share contacts
Message-ID: <CAN+DPAC_kbYD7AAxCYjZ2HXTq535cFfpz325MpkFVhWmPjWiSA@mail.gmail.com>

Has anybody here worked with phonebook contacts.

Is there a standard which major number of phone manufacturers support
for electronic business card . Vcard seems to be not supported by
Android/blackberry etc ..

-- 
A-M-I-T S|S

From karra.etc at gmail.com  Tue Jul 24 19:00:27 2012
From: karra.etc at gmail.com (Sriram Karra)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:30:27 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Any standard way in which i can share contacts
In-Reply-To: <CAN+DPAC_kbYD7AAxCYjZ2HXTq535cFfpz325MpkFVhWmPjWiSA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Amit Sethi <amit.pureenergy at gmail.com>wrote:

> Has anybody here worked with phonebook contacts.
>

Yes, I have.

Is there a standard which major number of phone manufacturers support
> for electronic business card . Vcard seems to be not supported by
> Android/blackberry etc ..


If you define a 'standard' as something that is well documented and
accessible through well defined APIs, and with decent availability of
bi-directional sync solutions, Google Contacts and Outlook Contacts would
both fit the bill. They are both well documented and you would be hard
pressed to find a phone which does not sync to one or both of them.

Can you state your problem or pain point precisely?

-Karra

From amit.pureenergy at gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 04:29:18 2012
From: amit.pureenergy at gmail.com (Amit Sethi)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:59:18 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Any standard way in which i can share contacts
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On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Sriram Karra <karra.etc at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Amit Sethi <amit.pureenergy at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Has anybody here worked with phonebook contacts.
>>
>
> Yes, I have.
>
> Is there a standard which major number of phone manufacturers support
>> for electronic business card . Vcard seems to be not supported by
>> Android/blackberry etc ..
>
>
> If you define a 'standard' as something that is well documented and
> accessible through well defined APIs, and with decent availability of
> bi-directional sync solutions, Google Contacts and Outlook Contacts would
Well I am actually not looking for a sync solution but
programmatically send sms containing vcard . However the message does
not seem to be received as a business card on the phone but as text .
What could be the reason for that?




> both fit the bill. They are both well documented and you would be hard
> pressed to find a phone which does not sync to one or both of them.
>
> Can you state your problem or pain point precisely?
>
> -Karra
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From karra.etc at gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 08:47:31 2012
From: karra.etc at gmail.com (Sriram Karra)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:17:31 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Any standard way in which i can share contacts
In-Reply-To: <CAN+DPACh0wM580kA7RJcDKt6vhzUrwtMW-p6HN6T+qwJ0q1btA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN+DPAC_kbYD7AAxCYjZ2HXTq535cFfpz325MpkFVhWmPjWiSA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAN+DPACh0wM580kA7RJcDKt6vhzUrwtMW-p6HN6T+qwJ0q1btA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFkt3UNNFSt3nkHEPP1rXb0Dxa0VAmLrD07nAKSixaHVVKhuhA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Amit Sethi <amit.pureenergy at gmail.com>wrote:


> Well I am actually not looking for a sync solution but
> programmatically send sms containing vcard . However the message does
> not seem to be received as a business card on the phone but as text .
> What could be the reason for that?


So what you really want is standard handling of SMS "attachments". Hm. no
idea. good luck...

From skksundar at yahoo.co.in  Wed Jul 25 12:25:21 2012
From: skksundar at yahoo.co.in (Senthil)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:25:21 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
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Hi Kenneth,

Really appreciate your help. I was able to configure the web2py to run on apache successfully. Thanks to everyone for the support. 


Thanks again.
Senthilkumaran Sundaramurthi.



________________________________
 From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at gmail.com>
To: Senthil <skksundar at yahoo.co.in> 
Cc: bangpypers <bangpypers at python.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
 
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 18:43 +0800, Senthil wrote:
> My app is under the directory /root/web2py/web2py. Sorry about the
> late reply.

and if you notice, that does not have 755 permissions - and it is not a
very healthy thing to put apps under /root - but it is your funeral!
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves

From lgp171188 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 12:40:19 2012
From: lgp171188 at gmail.com (Guruprasad)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:10:19 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
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On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Senthil <skksundar at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Hi Kenneth,
>
> Really appreciate your help. I was able to configure the web2py to run on apache successfully. Thanks to everyone for the support.

What was the issue and how did you solve it? It'd be great if you
could post a short writeup.

Thanks & Regards,
Guruprasad

From lawgon at gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 13:21:33 2012
From: lawgon at gmail.com (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:51:33 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
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On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 16:10 +0530, Guruprasad wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Senthil <skksundar at yahoo.co.in>
> wrote:
> > Hi Kenneth,
> >
> > Really appreciate your help. I was able to configure the web2py to
> run on apache successfully. Thanks to everyone for the support.
> 
> What was the issue and how did you solve it? It'd be great if you
> could post a short writeup.
> 
> 

the issue was that apache was giving forbidden error when trying to
access his app and the solution was to give apache the permissions. This
is a very common issue in fedora/redhat/centos/ where the default for
most directories under / is not to give execute permission to all. This
error was further compounded by him putting his app under /root which is
usually more heavily protected than most directories. 
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From skksundar at yahoo.co.in  Thu Jul 26 11:34:03 2012
From: skksundar at yahoo.co.in (Senthil)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:34:03 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
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Hi All,

Sorry couldn't make it,?yesterday since had to leave early.?Well, as kenneth said, the permissions was the issue. And what i didn't realize was, while i was checking the permissions inside my work-space, i failed to check the permissions of my workspace directory and it turned out to be the culprit;?So added the permissions then. After that. there was another error from error log which am pasting below.

?Directory index forbidden by Options directive: /root/web2py/web2py/


So, i added the wsgihandler.py script to the DirectoryIndex directive.?The next error was?

Options ExecCGI is off in this directory: /root/web2py/web2py/wsgihandler.py.?

Inspecting further i found this in httpd.conf

AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .pl .py


Looked like .py was being handled as cgi. Hence, removed .py from the list of extensions.

AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .pl


Then, voila!! ?I had a ?working version of web2py on my server. Without banbpypers, i would've been left with no choice but to move on!! Thanks to Kenneth and the team!!?

Thanks
Senthilkumaran Sundaramurthi.


________________________________
 From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at gmail.com>
To: bangpypers at python.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Configuring web2py to run on apache with Centos5.8
 
On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 16:10 +0530, Guruprasad wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Senthil <skksundar at yahoo.co.in>
> wrote:
> > Hi Kenneth,
> >
> > Really appreciate your help. I was able to configure the web2py to
> run on apache successfully. Thanks to everyone for the support.
> 
> What was the issue and how did you solve it? It'd be great if you
> could post a short writeup.
> 
> 

the issue was that apache was giving forbidden error when trying to
access his app and the solution was to give apache the permissions. This
is a very common issue in fedora/redhat/centos/ where the default for
most directories under / is not to give execute permission to all. This
error was further compounded by him putting his app under /root which is
usually more heavily protected than most directories. 
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves

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BangPypers mailing list
BangPypers at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

From mishralok at gmail.com  Sun Jul 29 07:39:09 2012
From: mishralok at gmail.com (Alok Mishra)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:09:09 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Python job in a well funded growing startup
Message-ID: <1520C5A2-30BB-4D4D-8C21-C1C16124363F@gmail.com>

Hi Guys,

We are looking to hire few Python developers in our startup - a smartphone notification based ad network. We are looking for both fresh graduates with proven programming and python skills as well as experienced folks with active programming experience.


The key requirements of an ideal candidate would be

* Must be a Python geek. Should be demonstrated from prior code snippets, open source projects etc. 
* Ability to adapt and play with new libraries and languages.
* Good Django understanding
* Any experience with high volume data processing using NOSQL or SQL is a big plus.
* Some experience and understanding of crawling pages and parsing structured information from them (preferably Scrapy).
* Good understanding of XPath.
* Experience with svn/git/mercurial.
* Experience with Mysql, Mongodb

Good to have
* SOLR or in general principles of search (inverted index, clustering etc)
* Some machine learning principles.
* Javscript/JQuery experience.
* Experience with Scrapy. 
 

Please email me if you think this job would be a good fit for you,

Best regards,
Alok 
Co-founder, Notikum Pvt Ltd
9886275326

From look4puneet at gmail.com  Sun Jul 29 13:25:48 2012
From: look4puneet at gmail.com (Puneet Aggarwal)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:55:48 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django Internship position
In-Reply-To: <CAByQ+9_tfa0sPUqg-yygQFoW4aZ6jbZp05aL=N_tGKHbFi1B_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEj4Y5vJBJP6Knn+N-QtSRugbTHg9fbafQSdrDhMrzf8mVkwWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAByQ+9_tfa0sPUqg-yygQFoW4aZ6jbZp05aL=N_tGKHbFi1B_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEj4Y5tnXUK-NSfXMg3F-bHq8=cLN41PLzdA2Mme_ZhCPmuc8g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Guys,

Sorry for the delay response. In a startup we dont have brand name and we
dont have any funding *yet*.
We dont have office in a fancy building yet.

What is left ? Only the people who are working on that idea.

Is it a bad idea to tell people who are we and what we did in past years of
our life.
How do a new comer feel confident about joining in a new startup.

If everyone in this group things it was a mistake I am very sorry for that.

Thanks Deepak for encouragement. We are in stealth mode and working on
implementing our idea.
The idea is small and so we are not comfortable discussing this in open
form yet.

I know we will get some good feedback from the veterans. But the time has
not yet come to get feedback from open forum.

We got quite a few resumes from the group. We called candidates and
explained them what we are doing. And what we are up to and how much we
have done.
And what we can offer.

Is that not the right way to communicate ?

I did what I felt write. I can be wrong.

Thanks,
Puneet

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Deepak Garg <deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com>wrote:

> HI Puneet,
>
> Please dont mind any of the comments and take all the critics
> constructively.
>
> "We are a internet based startup started by IIT, BITS alumnus."
>
> You have not mentioned the name of the company and more than that 'the work
> you do'. This line gives a feeling that your background matters more than
> your work and what you believe. I am not sure how will this attract serious
> candidates.
>
>
>
> Deepak
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Puneet Aggarwal <look4puneet at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Looking for Fresh college graduates for Internship position at Noida. We
> > are a internet based startup started by IIT, BITS alumnus.
> > This is a full time opportunity and candidates will be paid stipend.
> Based
> > on the performance might be converted to full time employment
> opportunity.
> >
> > Requirements for the internship:
> > ? Strong passion for learning.
> > ? Strong background in any of these languages C++/Python.
> > ? Knowledge of Data-Structures and Algorithms.
> > ? Experience using Linux/Unix.
> > * Knowledge of Django/web framework will be a plus.
> >
> > Awards:
> > - Informal and entrepreneurial environment.
> > - Great learning opportunity
> > - Stipend will be paid
> >
> > If any one interested please mail us at er.punit at gmail.com.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Puneet
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Deepak Garg,
> Data Center and Cloud Div.
> Citrix R&D, India
>
> Github: https://github.com/gargdeepak
> LinkedIn: http://in.linkedin.com/in/deepakgargiit
> Slideshare:   http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/presentations
> Skype-id: deepakgarg.iit
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com  Sun Jul 29 13:53:59 2012
From: deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com (Deepak Garg)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:23:59 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django Internship position
In-Reply-To: <CAEj4Y5tnXUK-NSfXMg3F-bHq8=cLN41PLzdA2Mme_ZhCPmuc8g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEj4Y5vJBJP6Knn+N-QtSRugbTHg9fbafQSdrDhMrzf8mVkwWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAByQ+9_tfa0sPUqg-yygQFoW4aZ6jbZp05aL=N_tGKHbFi1B_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEj4Y5tnXUK-NSfXMg3F-bHq8=cLN41PLzdA2Mme_ZhCPmuc8g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAByQ+98GQXGEA8CyRLJfYFkRAduhmviwZ7B_+VJXOOjczNKEDw@mail.gmail.com>

Puneet,

You have made your case well. Maybe I misinterpreted the email and judged
you.


Good Luck with stealth mode !

Wish you success !



-- 

Deepak Garg,
Data Center and Cloud Div.
Citrix R&D, India

Github: https://github.com/gargdeepak
LinkedIn: http://in.linkedin.com/in/deepakgargiit
Slideshare:   http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/presentations
Skype-id: deepakgarg.iit





On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Puneet Aggarwal <look4puneet at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> Sorry for the delay response. In a startup we dont have brand name and we
> dont have any funding *yet*.
> We dont have office in a fancy building yet.
>
> What is left ? Only the people who are working on that idea.
>
> Is it a bad idea to tell people who are we and what we did in past years of
> our life.
> How do a new comer feel confident about joining in a new startup.
>
> If everyone in this group things it was a mistake I am very sorry for that.
>
> Thanks Deepak for encouragement. We are in stealth mode and working on
> implementing our idea.
> The idea is small and so we are not comfortable discussing this in open
> form yet.
>
> I know we will get some good feedback from the veterans. But the time has
> not yet come to get feedback from open forum.
>
> We got quite a few resumes from the group. We called candidates and
> explained them what we are doing. And what we are up to and how much we
> have done.
> And what we can offer.
>
> Is that not the right way to communicate ?
>
> I did what I felt write. I can be wrong.
>
> Thanks,
> Puneet
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Deepak Garg <deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > HI Puneet,
> >
> > Please dont mind any of the comments and take all the critics
> > constructively.
> >
> > "We are a internet based startup started by IIT, BITS alumnus."
> >
> > You have not mentioned the name of the company and more than that 'the
> work
> > you do'. This line gives a feeling that your background matters more than
> > your work and what you believe. I am not sure how will this attract
> serious
> > candidates.
> >
> >
> >
> > Deepak
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Puneet Aggarwal <look4puneet at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Looking for Fresh college graduates for Internship position at Noida.
> We
> > > are a internet based startup started by IIT, BITS alumnus.
> > > This is a full time opportunity and candidates will be paid stipend.
> > Based
> > > on the performance might be converted to full time employment
> > opportunity.
> > >
> > > Requirements for the internship:
> > > ? Strong passion for learning.
> > > ? Strong background in any of these languages C++/Python.
> > > ? Knowledge of Data-Structures and Algorithms.
> > > ? Experience using Linux/Unix.
> > > * Knowledge of Django/web framework will be a plus.
> > >
> > > Awards:
> > > - Informal and entrepreneurial environment.
> > > - Great learning opportunity
> > > - Stipend will be paid
> > >
> > > If any one interested please mail us at er.punit at gmail.com.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Puneet
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > BangPypers mailing list
> > > BangPypers at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Deepak Garg,
> > Data Center and Cloud Div.
> > Citrix R&D, India
> >
> > Github: https://github.com/gargdeepak
> > LinkedIn: http://in.linkedin.com/in/deepakgargiit
> > Slideshare:   http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/presentations
> > Skype-id: deepakgarg.iit
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 

Deepak Garg,
Data Center and Cloud Div.
Citrix R&D, India

Github: https://github.com/gargdeepak
LinkedIn: http://in.linkedin.com/in/deepakgargiit
Slideshare:   http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/presentations
Skype-id: deepakgarg.iit

From vijaya.kala at credativ.com  Mon Jul 30 06:55:09 2012
From: vijaya.kala at credativ.com (Vijaya kala)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:25:09 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Commercial] Python Course - 3rd and 4th August
Message-ID: <1343624109.1743.20.camel@DT-01-0043>

Dear All,

credativ India specialized in open source, conducting a two days
course on Python Programming on 3rd and 4th August 2012.

  Interested candidates can contact: training at credativ.in

-- 
Regards,
Vijayakala




From lorddaemon at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 08:42:20 2012
From: lorddaemon at gmail.com (Sidu Ponnappa)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:12:20 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django Internship position
In-Reply-To: <CAEj4Y5tnXUK-NSfXMg3F-bHq8=cLN41PLzdA2Mme_ZhCPmuc8g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEj4Y5vJBJP6Knn+N-QtSRugbTHg9fbafQSdrDhMrzf8mVkwWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAByQ+9_tfa0sPUqg-yygQFoW4aZ6jbZp05aL=N_tGKHbFi1B_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEj4Y5tnXUK-NSfXMg3F-bHq8=cLN41PLzdA2Mme_ZhCPmuc8g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHQkf6REc==w8p7k2dNPVYeT8ivKSkbyasCkxS_uRWk5D=D=OA@mail.gmail.com>

Puneet,

I feel strongly enough about this that I'm going to go slightly OT,
but I'll limit myself to this one email so I'm not annoying the rest
of the list.

> The idea is small and so we are not comfortable discussing this in open
> form yet.
I've been hiring long enough to know that unless the people you're
trying to engage with are kicked about the idea, they will never
apply. You are likely missing on the best devs by worrying about your
idea being hijacked.

I've consciously avoided the "stealth mode" comfort zone quite happily
for many years now. There are more reasons why you should talk about
your idea in public, but someone beat me to blogging about it:
http://www.humbledmba.com/startups-in-stealth-mode-need-one-piece-of-ad

Best,
Sidu.



On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Puneet Aggarwal <look4puneet at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Sorry for the delay response. In a startup we dont have brand name and we
> dont have any funding *yet*.
> We dont have office in a fancy building yet.
>
> What is left ? Only the people who are working on that idea.
>
> Is it a bad idea to tell people who are we and what we did in past years of
> our life.
> How do a new comer feel confident about joining in a new startup.
>
> If everyone in this group things it was a mistake I am very sorry for that.
>
> Thanks Deepak for encouragement. We are in stealth mode and working on
> implementing our idea.
> The idea is small and so we are not comfortable discussing this in open
> form yet.
>
> I know we will get some good feedback from the veterans. But the time has
> not yet come to get feedback from open forum.
>
> We got quite a few resumes from the group. We called candidates and
> explained them what we are doing. And what we are up to and how much we
> have done.
> And what we can offer.
>
> Is that not the right way to communicate ?
>
> I did what I felt write. I can be wrong.
>
> Thanks,
> Puneet
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Deepak Garg <deepakgarg.iitg at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> HI Puneet,
>>
>> Please dont mind any of the comments and take all the critics
>> constructively.
>>
>> "We are a internet based startup started by IIT, BITS alumnus."
>>
>> You have not mentioned the name of the company and more than that 'the work
>> you do'. This line gives a feeling that your background matters more than
>> your work and what you believe. I am not sure how will this attract serious
>> candidates.
>>
>>
>>
>> Deepak
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Puneet Aggarwal <look4puneet at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Looking for Fresh college graduates for Internship position at Noida. We
>> > are a internet based startup started by IIT, BITS alumnus.
>> > This is a full time opportunity and candidates will be paid stipend.
>> Based
>> > on the performance might be converted to full time employment
>> opportunity.
>> >
>> > Requirements for the internship:
>> > ? Strong passion for learning.
>> > ? Strong background in any of these languages C++/Python.
>> > ? Knowledge of Data-Structures and Algorithms.
>> > ? Experience using Linux/Unix.
>> > * Knowledge of Django/web framework will be a plus.
>> >
>> > Awards:
>> > - Informal and entrepreneurial environment.
>> > - Great learning opportunity
>> > - Stipend will be paid
>> >
>> > If any one interested please mail us at er.punit at gmail.com.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Puneet
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > BangPypers mailing list
>> > BangPypers at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Deepak Garg,
>> Data Center and Cloud Div.
>> Citrix R&D, India
>>
>> Github: https://github.com/gargdeepak
>> LinkedIn: http://in.linkedin.com/in/deepakgargiit
>> Slideshare:   http://www.slideshare.net/khinnu4u/presentations
>> Skype-id: deepakgarg.iit
>> _______________________________________________
>> BangPypers mailing list
>> BangPypers at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

From b.ghose at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 08:50:38 2012
From: b.ghose at gmail.com (Baishampayan Ghose)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:20:38 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django Internship position
In-Reply-To: <CAHQkf6REc==w8p7k2dNPVYeT8ivKSkbyasCkxS_uRWk5D=D=OA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEj4Y5vJBJP6Knn+N-QtSRugbTHg9fbafQSdrDhMrzf8mVkwWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAByQ+9_tfa0sPUqg-yygQFoW4aZ6jbZp05aL=N_tGKHbFi1B_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEj4Y5tnXUK-NSfXMg3F-bHq8=cLN41PLzdA2Mme_ZhCPmuc8g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHQkf6REc==w8p7k2dNPVYeT8ivKSkbyasCkxS_uRWk5D=D=OA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ3UTYKw3BSjTM=5D_ByJopOzEi1mQubkGWd1zVW4Kh=vEnsog@mail.gmail.com>

TL;DR -

Ideas are dime a dozen (aka cheap), it's execution that matters.

If an idea is ground-breaking yet indefensible, it's probably not
worth guarding it closely in the first place because people will copy
it the day you launch anyway.

Paul Graham touched upon the topic briefly here
http://www.paulgraham.com/start.html

Regards,
BG

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Sidu Ponnappa <lorddaemon at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The idea is small and so we are not comfortable discussing this in open
>> form yet.
> I've been hiring long enough to know that unless the people you're
> trying to engage with are kicked about the idea, they will never
> apply. You are likely missing on the best devs by worrying about your
> idea being hijacked.
>
> I've consciously avoided the "stealth mode" comfort zone quite happily
> for many years now. There are more reasons why you should talk about
> your idea in public, but someone beat me to blogging about it:
> http://www.humbledmba.com/startups-in-stealth-mode-need-one-piece-of-ad



-- 
Baishampayan Ghose
b.ghose at gmail.com

From vid at svaksha.com  Mon Jul 30 08:54:38 2012
From: vid at svaksha.com (vid)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 06:54:38 +0000
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django Internship position
In-Reply-To: <CAHQkf6REc==w8p7k2dNPVYeT8ivKSkbyasCkxS_uRWk5D=D=OA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEj4Y5vJBJP6Knn+N-QtSRugbTHg9fbafQSdrDhMrzf8mVkwWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAByQ+9_tfa0sPUqg-yygQFoW4aZ6jbZp05aL=N_tGKHbFi1B_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEj4Y5tnXUK-NSfXMg3F-bHq8=cLN41PLzdA2Mme_ZhCPmuc8g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHQkf6REc==w8p7k2dNPVYeT8ivKSkbyasCkxS_uRWk5D=D=OA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN9ztG-SXsu2mpi+wO2PPzn4ObdV_W0qXUnqD7XS8xQ4Oi8v6A@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Sidu Ponnappa <lorddaemon at gmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
> your idea in public, but someone beat me to blogging about it:
> http://www.humbledmba.com/startups-in-stealth-mode-need-one-piece-of-ad

Jace on the IT/startup scene in India:
http://jace.zaiki.in/2006/11/01/talent-shortage

Regards,
Vid
? http://svaksha.com ?

From jace at pobox.com  Mon Jul 30 09:28:02 2012
From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:58:02 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django Internship position
In-Reply-To: <CAN9ztG-SXsu2mpi+wO2PPzn4ObdV_W0qXUnqD7XS8xQ4Oi8v6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEj4Y5vJBJP6Knn+N-QtSRugbTHg9fbafQSdrDhMrzf8mVkwWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAByQ+9_tfa0sPUqg-yygQFoW4aZ6jbZp05aL=N_tGKHbFi1B_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEj4Y5tnXUK-NSfXMg3F-bHq8=cLN41PLzdA2Mme_ZhCPmuc8g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHQkf6REc==w8p7k2dNPVYeT8ivKSkbyasCkxS_uRWk5D=D=OA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN9ztG-SXsu2mpi+wO2PPzn4ObdV_W0qXUnqD7XS8xQ4Oi8v6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFhXvyE1Zxjy5PY4XGGPYDXL0jm-TKX7E_4CLOBsiytWDYcFXQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:24 PM, vid <vid at svaksha.com> wrote:

> Jace on the IT/startup scene in India:
> http://jace.zaiki.in/2006/11/01/talent-shortage


As the adage goes:

Q: How do you know someone is from IIT or IIM?
A: They tell you.

When I hear someone is from IIT or IIM, I instinctively ignore that person
because repeat experience has taught me to do so. These people tend to
believe that they are superior to everyone else because of where they
studied. Some of the most ruinous corporate decisions I've seen come from
IIT/IIM graduates who keep reminding everyone that they are IIT/IIM
graduates.

This is of course not true for everyone, but there are enough of these
jokers going around that if you are serious about your startup, please do
not advertise your IIT/IIM background -- you will be ignored by the people
you really need to talk to.

Best,
Kiran

From b.ghose at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 09:31:11 2012
From: b.ghose at gmail.com (Baishampayan Ghose)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:01:11 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django Internship position
In-Reply-To: <CAFhXvyE1Zxjy5PY4XGGPYDXL0jm-TKX7E_4CLOBsiytWDYcFXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEj4Y5vJBJP6Knn+N-QtSRugbTHg9fbafQSdrDhMrzf8mVkwWw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAByQ+9_tfa0sPUqg-yygQFoW4aZ6jbZp05aL=N_tGKHbFi1B_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEj4Y5tnXUK-NSfXMg3F-bHq8=cLN41PLzdA2Mme_ZhCPmuc8g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHQkf6REc==w8p7k2dNPVYeT8ivKSkbyasCkxS_uRWk5D=D=OA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda <jace at pobox.com> wrote:
> As the adage goes:
>
> Q: How do you know someone is from IIT or IIM?
> A: They tell you.
>
> When I hear someone is from IIT or IIM, I instinctively ignore that person
> because repeat experience has taught me to do so. These people tend to
> believe that they are superior to everyone else because of where they
> studied. Some of the most ruinous corporate decisions I've seen come from
> IIT/IIM graduates who keep reminding everyone that they are IIT/IIM
> graduates.
>
> This is of course not true for everyone, but there are enough of these
> jokers going around that if you are serious about your startup, please do
> not advertise your IIT/IIM background -- you will be ignored by the people
> you really need to talk to.

Couldn't agree more.

Regards,
BG

-- 
Baishampayan Ghose
b.ghose at gmail.com

From me at gnuyoga.in  Mon Jul 30 10:02:32 2012
From: me at gnuyoga.in (Sreekandh B)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:32:32 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django Internship position
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>
>
> When I hear someone is from IIT or IIM, I instinctively ignore that person
> because repeat experience has taught me to do so. These people tend to
> believe that they are superior to everyone else because of where they
> studied. Some of the most ruinous corporate decisions I've seen come from
> IIT/IIM graduates who keep reminding everyone that they are IIT/IIM
> graduates.
>
>
Glad am not alone doing this ;)


> This is of course not true for everyone, but there are enough of these
> jokers going around that if you are serious about your startup, please do
> not advertise your IIT/IIM background -- you will be ignored by the people
> you really need to talk to.
>
>
+1

From look4puneet at gmail.com  Tue Jul 31 05:48:08 2012
From: look4puneet at gmail.com (Puneet Aggarwal)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:18:08 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python/Django Internship position
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Thanks Guys, Got a good feedback :)

I can probably keep this conversation live but there is no point in that.
But lesson learned, I will be careful next time and will try to include
most of the feedback in my communication.

Thanks,
Puneet

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Sreekandh B <me at gnuyoga.in> wrote:

> >
> >
> > When I hear someone is from IIT or IIM, I instinctively ignore that
> person
> > because repeat experience has taught me to do so. These people tend to
> > believe that they are superior to everyone else because of where they
> > studied. Some of the most ruinous corporate decisions I've seen come from
> > IIT/IIM graduates who keep reminding everyone that they are IIT/IIM
> > graduates.
> >
> >
> Glad am not alone doing this ;)
>
>
> > This is of course not true for everyone, but there are enough of these
> > jokers going around that if you are serious about your startup, please do
> > not advertise your IIT/IIM background -- you will be ignored by the
> people
> > you really need to talk to.
> >
> >
> +1
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From brian at python.org  Tue Jul 31 17:26:14 2012
From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:26:14 -0500
Subject: [BangPypers] PyCon 2013 is under way! Now accepting proposals
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwqPvAVsK+_10e1RESAfVmxTxg8MiqqbkAhPqDucWoVyMA@mail.gmail.com>

It was only a few months ago when we wrapped up the hugely successful
PyCon 2012, and we started working on the 2013 conference right away.
PyCon 2013 will again be in Santa Clara, California, with tutorials
kicking off March 13, the conference March 15, and sprints beginning
March 18. Along with our site release at https://us.pycon.org/2013/,
we opened our Call for Proposals a month earlier than last year at
https://us.pycon.org/2013/speaking/cfp/.

We're looking to you, the community, to help us make PyCon 2013 even
better. We're accepting proposals through September 28, hoping to
break last year's record of 519 talk, tutorial, and poster proposals.
We're looking for all types of presentations from all types of people.
If you've got a topic to share, we hope you'll submit a proposal.
Create an account at https://us.pycon.org/2013/account/signup/, and
fill in your speaker profile and submit away!

With another record submission period expected, we're also rounding up
volunteers for our Program Committee, the team tasked with evaluating
the proposals and coming up with the conference schedule. If you're
interested in volunteering, join the PyCon Program Committee mailing
list and introduce yourself at
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pycon-pc.

Without sponsors, PyCon wouldn't be possible. They're what keep the
conference prices low and values high, and we share the same deal with
our sponsorship packages. Especially after you factor in the price of
tickets that all packages include, we think our sponsorship packages
are second to none. We even have a 50% discount for small businesses!
Check out https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/whysponsor/ for more
info.

We've also made changes in how we're doing ticketing, specifically for
early bird rates. We even cut our student ticket prices in half,
starting at $100! We'll announce more details as we get closer, but
know that ticket sales will be opening up in the fall. Be sure to plan
accordingly because we anticipate another quick sell out!

Be sure to follow us at http://pycon.blogspot.com/ and
https://twitter.com/pycon!

Jesse Noller - Chairman - jnoller at python.org
Brian Curtin - Publicity Coordinator - brian at python.org