[BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore

Annapoornima Koppad a.koppad at gmail.com
Sat Aug 24 08:20:53 CEST 2013

hey Svaksha,

Finally a lady on the list.

Thanks to that, your comments are great. I totally agree with most of your

Regarding surveys, I would have one request though. I dont want multiple
entries from one person. We should have some weening out process to remove
duplicate entries. It also ensures that miscreants are not adding up their
names to thwart the data or show misleading numbers. The other details, we
should not really be worried at all. We need to brainstorm more on this.

Let us discuss this on the Pyladies Bangalore list.

Thanks all for the support.

Warm regards,

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:27 PM, svaksha <svaksha at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Annapoornima Koppad
> <a.koppad at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I recently started the Pyladies Bangalore chapter. I wanted to know how
> Thank you. Its been a long wait :)
> > many lady python programmers are on Bangalore python users group. I will
> be
> > really interested in the numbers in terms of,
> >
> > 1. How many lady python programmers are on Bangalore python users group?
> /me waves. I've had brief trysts with other languages, but I prefer
> Python since the last few years.
> > 2. How many are active in attending the Bangalore meetups?
> I never have attended, either because the topic was not what I was
> interested in, or because the meetup time/location is inconvenient
> (read, too much travel time). That said, I try to avoid talks (unless
> the talk is about something I absolutely want to learn); much
> preferring the practical form - workshops.
> > 3. How much is the participation of these women for any of Bangalore
> Python
> > outreach activities.
> I tried replicating the Python dojos concept from a talk I heard at
> Pycon. I got a lot of support online, but then realised the ground
> realities in India are different, and the effort died as quietly as it
> began, http://svaksha.com/post/2010/Weekly-Python-Dojo-at-Bangalore
> > 4. Of the active members, how many have been active in producing good
> > quality talks, workshops, etc.
> Never spoken locally as I dont know if there is any interest in
> scientific topics. IIRC, most of the list posting are web-related
> topics.
> I've spoken at PyconCA and for two years in a row my Pycon talk
> submissions were converted into poster sessions; but I had to withdraw
> due to insufficient travel funding. (yes, I'm aware of the FA, applied
> and was granted partial funding). Last year, I organized a Pandas
> workshop (this while I've never used it, but later worked with it)
> which was funded by the PSF, and the day-long event was covered by the
> CoC too. Had fun :)
> > I did a little bit of research before deciding to email the group here.
> > There are 570 members on the Bangalore Python user groups. Of which 20
> are
> > ladies. Of the 20 number, 3 are recruiters. This number is really
> > disconcerting to me. Am I missing out some people here? This is leading
> me
> > to ask these questions.
> >
> > 1. How many women really attend workshops/meetups?
> > 2. Are there any efforts to understand the problems associated with the
> > poor attendance of women?
> > 3. Aren't there any women who want to learn Python but are too afraid to
> > ask questions. What is being done to address these problems?
> A survey would be nice as it would help the Bangpypers and meetup
> organizers understand the other half. I have two suggestions:
> 0. Please keep the survey results open so that everyone can view it.
> 1. Respecting user privacy and choice:  Surveys (or forms) that insist
> on collecting irrelevant personal information are incredibly annoying.
> For privacy reasons, many people dislike being profiled and mandatory
> fields that insist on real name, location, where you work/study,
> designation, etc.. are a huge turn off. I'm ok with these questions so
> long as they are not mandatory (read, asterisk) fields.
> > That said, I am attaching the links to Pyladies Bangalore.
> Fwiw, the way Pyladies is run internationally is that women interested
> in opening a local chapter can easily start one in their own city.
> Please keep in mind that 'men' starting a group for the women is quite
> strange - yes, there was a student who would frequent the irc channel
> for weeks, insisting that he wanted to start a Pyladies chapter to
> encourage the women in his college to contribute the Foss.
> > While I want to keep this community pro-woman, I am not restricting it to
> > women alone. I would really appreciate if there are men willing to come
> It would be nice if any upstream developer would like to hold
> workshops and encourage newbies to contribute. Contributions could be
> in any form, not just coding, as most projects require good technical
> documentation <-- this is a great way to start out as you will learn
> how to use the software and create documentation while learning other
> skills, like DVCS, collaborating via lists and irc with the core
> community, etc..
> -svaksha ॥ स्वक्ष
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