[BangPypers] Raising issue WRT Bangpypers mailing list

[Jeffrey Jose]

​At the risk of giving a non-issue more visibility, we’re being extremely
silly here. I went through the emails here and I dont find anything
offensive or sarcastic or twisted in any of the replies. I do however find
2 things odd though.

   - Senthil’s original reply of *I looked and found it* was kinda
   pointless. It was not required, and totally not helpful; Then again you
   tend to ignore noise from signal pretty fast if you’re on internet often.
   - There’s no reason why we’re moderating messages this aggressively.
   Voices of dissent, however bad it might be, need not be curtailed.



On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV
<noufal at nibrahim.net.in>wrote:

>
> Just for context, here's the email where Danny says that he was not
> offended by the first email and didn't interpret it in the way that
> Pratham did
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2014-May/010161.html
>
> and my follow up reply saying that I didn't mean it that way either.
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2014-May/010163.html
>
> Also, I'm not managing or policing the list so please don't CC me
> directly in any replies. The list owner is mentioned on the listinfo
> page is probably the right person to contact for this kind of thing.
>
>
> On Thu, May 22 2014, Pratham Gadre wrote:
>
> > Hello Brian & Jesse,
> > I am an incognito member of the BangPypers mailing list. Reason for being
> > incognito is
> > simple, the people who run the list are very sensitive to criticism and
> > react in a harsh and non-professional manner.
> >
> > I was looking to see, who I could raise this issue to, via the Python.org
> > website, I saw Brian was the communications officer and Jesse is the
> > Vice-Chairman of the PSF.
> >
> > This time, I write to you with links to the content of the emails, which
> > can be found at
> > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2014-May/010156.html
> >
> > My replies are available here -> http://pastebin.com/7kWWcMvF
> >
> > Both my emails were rejected with the response:
> > "Your message was deemed inappropriate by the moderator."
> >
> > Screenshot of replied from the moderator.
> >
> http://www.anonimg.com/uploaded-510571c65c8efdb3970761d95f85f5a8.png.html
> >
> > At the risk of sounding like a 5 year old complaining about a bully
> hitting
> > him in school, may I request you to kindly warn the moderators of the
> > mailing list.
> >
> > I guess as member of the community, if I feel something is not right, I
> > have the right to voice my opinion. A few months back Anand Pillai, a PSF
> > member.
> > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2013-September/thread.html
> >
> > It would really help, if there is some intervention.
> >
> > I would have ideally written to the list owners, but I have real bad
> > experience in dealing with them earlier.
> >
> > Regards
> > Pratham
>
> --
> Cordially,
> Noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
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