From rmehta at gmail.com  Wed Jul  1 06:58:21 2015
From: rmehta at gmail.com (Rushabh Mehta)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 10:28:21 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] [X-POST] Help ERPNext build the next generation
	open source platform for SMBs
Message-ID: <A6D84CF4-33ED-4E86-82EE-73109109F715@gmail.com>

Dear all,

We have an opening for a software developer to work on the Frappe + ERPNext project in our office in Mumbai. Remote is also okay.

ERPNext (https://erpnext.com <https://erpnext.com/>) is one of the biggest open source projects to originate out of India and is now backed by a robust user (https://discuss.frappe.io <https://discuss.frappe.io/>) and developer community (https://github.com/frappe/erpnext <https://github.com/frappe/erpnext>) and is financially sustainable. We are now looking to expand our team to take the platform + product to the next level.

We work on a home grown stack (https://github.com/frappe/frappe <https://github.com/frappe/frappe>) built on Python, JS and HTML/CSS. If you think this is something you want to work on, please help us know you by filling out a form at: https://about.frappe.io/join-us <https://about.frappe.io/join-us>

best,
Rushabh




--
@rushabh_mehta
https://erpnext.com


From kracethekingmaker at gmail.com  Sun Jul 12 09:39:49 2015
From: kracethekingmaker at gmail.com (kracekumar ramaraju)
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 13:09:49 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] July Meetup
Message-ID: <CAO5c=mk+ZmA_H3hHoY2UZqHXO0Md4WRbofDN1GP_syuJd57c9Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

  We have our July meetup happening this Saturday. 4 talks are scheduled.
Here is the list

   - Scaling LinkedIn Infrastructure Management with Python Eco-System by
   Bhupendra Singh and Veerabahu Subramanian
   - Avoiding common pitfalls of datetime from a webapp's perspective by
   Indradhanush
   - Python, Salt, BitTorrent : Cross?colo data transfer at 10GB/s by Akhil
   Malik
   - Explore Big Data using Simple Python Code and Cloud Environment by
   Hari


Date: 18 July, 2015
Time: 10.00 AM to 1.30 PM.

RSVP [1] is open. We have limited seats RSVP only if you will turn up.

[1]: http://www.meetup.com/BangPypers/events/197867222/

See you on Saturday!


*Thanks & Regardskracekumar"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus
Torvaldshttp://kracekumar.com <http://kracekumar.com>*

From vbnetmithun at gmail.com  Tue Jul 14 10:00:11 2015
From: vbnetmithun at gmail.com (mithun chackravarthy)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:30:11 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Changing Time Zone dynamically in Django
Message-ID: <CA+ywqO+JmTpGr+8ow9DkGibVfMm8RzBBgM33ZxtpOc7qVvwjCw@mail.gmail.com>

Is it possible to change TIME_ZONE variable dynamically in Django?
The use case is  when a user from IST comes the TIME_ZONE should
Asia/Kolkata and if some one from GMT comes it should be set to UTC.

Thanks,
Mithun

From gora at mimirtech.com  Tue Jul 14 10:50:33 2015
From: gora at mimirtech.com (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 14:20:33 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Changing Time Zone dynamically in Django
In-Reply-To: <CA+ywqO+JmTpGr+8ow9DkGibVfMm8RzBBgM33ZxtpOc7qVvwjCw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+ywqO+JmTpGr+8ow9DkGibVfMm8RzBBgM33ZxtpOc7qVvwjCw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACiMRGJMVqZMQBubykgmex+3wCP8YjEUQDstz=tojR1Z_maCaw@mail.gmail.com>

On 14 July 2015 at 13:30, mithun chackravarthy <vbnetmithun at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is it possible to change TIME_ZONE variable dynamically in Django?
> The use case is  when a user from IST comes the TIME_ZONE should
> Asia/Kolkata and if some one from GMT comes it should be set to UTC.

https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.8/topics/i18n/timezones/#selecting-the-current-time-zone

Regards,
Gora

From bpatel666 at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Jul 15 15:09:42 2015
From: bpatel666 at yahoo.co.uk (Bhavin Patel)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:09:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [BangPypers] Fw: Freelance worker Required
In-Reply-To: <1421072188.3848375.1436965117837.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1421072188.3848375.1436965117837.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <297610011.3828712.1436965782066.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

  
 Hello Bangpypers,
How is it going ?? I am looking for someone to develop a?second phase of my project in python.? If you are looking for work please mail me at bpatel666 at yahoo.co.uk.
I am looking for someone who can?ideally work with SQL, twitter and EC2.?

Many Thanks
Bhavin Patel



  

From mail2.rameshr at gmail.com  Thu Jul 16 12:19:19 2015
From: mail2.rameshr at gmail.com (Ramesh Rajagopal)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:49:19 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
In-Reply-To: <CAG7eOLNM5yP871759tkLtcXLoDpYpmkf552LPtxm3eSU5fRHYg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG7eOLN4Q=_ghLpApJiuu73r6Zs_S_B1wqfSKqUZuBXyUU_tsw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAG7eOLNM5yP871759tkLtcXLoDpYpmkf552LPtxm3eSU5fRHYg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG7eOLNU5fxVx-ZWiBn99cZk9hVzy5WrqnmVT4mxsSZVybuvUg@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Ramesh Rajagopal" <mail2.rameshr at gmail.com>
Date: Jul 16, 2015 3:30 PM
Subject: Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
To: <bangpypers at python.org>
Cc:


Hello All,

It would be very helpful, if you can review a small code which I had
written in python. It is purely for my personal development perspective.

I had a got an assignment from a company, they rejected my assignment
without exactly stating what is the problem with my code. They just
conveyed that it doesn't look like a pythonic way. I would like to
understand my mistakes and improve on this. It would be good if you can
help me on this.

I am attaching the problem.txt(which has the assignment details, we need to
make assumptions), then solution as alignment.tar.gz file.

Looking forward you reply.

Regards,
Ramesh
-------------- next part --------------
Create a command line application to print out planets that are aligned.

The application should work for an arbitrary solar system. The planets in the
solar system will be define in a configuration file with the following format,

  system:
    - name: planet-A
      theta: 0
      radius: 1
      period: 20
    - name: planet-B
      theta: 0
      radius: 5
      period: 30
    - name: planet-C
      theta: 2
      radius: 10
      period: 60

So each planet has a name, an initial angle (theta) given in radians, a radius
from the sun that it orbits, and length of time it takes to orbit the sun
(period). Assume that the orbit of each planet is a circle centered on the sun.

The position of each planet can be described by a radius and an angle. The
radius is constant, but the angle varies with time, i.e. at time 't' the angle
of a planet is given by,

  theta + 2 pi t / period

The application will not determine the alignments itself. Instead, the
application must be able to load a set of plugins at runtime that will determine
whether a particular configuration of planets is 'aligned' according to whatever
definition the plugin uses for alignment.

The application must take arguments for the configuration file, a list of
plugins to load, and the time to calculate the alignment for. For example,

  ./alignment.py --config system.yaml --plugins ~/foo.py ~/bar.py ~/baz.py --time 10

and the output will have the format,

  foo: planet-A, planet-B
  bar: planet-B, planet-C
  bar: planet-A, planet-B
  baz: planet-A, planet-B, planet-C

where the application prints out the aligned planets on a new line with the name
of the plugin that return the alignment.

The application is expected to well documented and clear. Provide explanations
for the design decisions (e.g. provide rationale for why you did or did not use
a particular package). Where there is ambiguity in the problem, state the
assumptions you used to solve it. The application should support versions 2.7.x
and 3.3.x (or greater) of python. The application should come with a simple
setup.py for installation, and an example plugin that treats planets as aligned
if they are within 5 degrees of one another relative to the sun
-------------- next part --------------
A small commandline application which sets up arbitory solar system based on
the config file provided. It also prints the alignment of the planets based on
plugins provided.

Installing the application:
--------------------------

a) tar xjvf alignment-0.1.tar.gz
b) cd alignment
c) python setup.py install

How to run the application:
--------------------------

python alignment.py --config <sample_config_file> --plugins <plugin1> <plugin2> <plugin3> --time 10
e.g:
python alignment.py --config plugins/sample.yaml --plugins plugins/five_degree_alignment.py --time 10

               Command Line Alignment Application
               ----------------------------------
This is simple command line application which sets up arbitory solar system
based on the provided configuration files. It also allows to run the plugin 
during runtime to decide the alignment of planets based on the decision made 
by plugins.

Design Decisions: 

1) Arbitory Solar System is setup based on the given system config file. It
also exposes APIs for dynamically adding planet and removing planet from the 
solar system. Hence in order to add/search/remove quickly, the planet
information has been kept under dictionary. 

2) Current Arbitory Solar System planet's doesn't orbit the sun. It just gives 
information from the initial position where it will be after the 'time' ticks. 
This can be extended by having start() method to orbit the sun. 

3) It is assumed that the period and 'time' ticks comes from the command line, has been
considered having some units of measurement. This assumption makes the
calculation easy without need to conversion.

4) InputParser class has been created to handle multiple file formats. Current
one just supports yaml parser, since we are dealing with only yaml files as of
now. This class can be extended to parse different file format as well. 

5) It is assumed the plugin's file will make all the decision about whether
two planets are aligned with respect to the sun. Only desired property from
the plugin that it has to expose, print_alignment() function which prints the
alignment of planets at the point. It is with respect to plugin to decide and
print the alignment of the planets based on the input provided by alignment
application. This gives the flexiblity for the plugin developer to change
their decision as an when required.  

6) Module "pyyaml" is used for parsing *.yaml file

7) Module "argparse" is used for command line parsing.





From anuvrat at anuvrat.in  Thu Jul 16 12:40:23 2015
From: anuvrat at anuvrat.in (Anuvrat Parashar)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 16:10:23 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
In-Reply-To: <CAG7eOLNU5fxVx-ZWiBn99cZk9hVzy5WrqnmVT4mxsSZVybuvUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG7eOLN4Q=_ghLpApJiuu73r6Zs_S_B1wqfSKqUZuBXyUU_tsw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAG7eOLNM5yP871759tkLtcXLoDpYpmkf552LPtxm3eSU5fRHYg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAG7eOLNU5fxVx-ZWiBn99cZk9hVzy5WrqnmVT4mxsSZVybuvUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+YFjT753O=vf+THjyUut9ojAuMZAbv-JsUeNM8khPnh9HO2JQ@mail.gmail.com>

1. alignment.tar.gs is missing.
2. please consider hosting the code on github / bitbucket instead of
attaching heavy files.


On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Ramesh Rajagopal <mail2.rameshr at gmail.com>
wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Ramesh Rajagopal" <mail2.rameshr at gmail.com>
> Date: Jul 16, 2015 3:30 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
> To: <bangpypers at python.org>
> Cc:
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> It would be very helpful, if you can review a small code which I had
> written in python. It is purely for my personal development perspective.
>
> I had a got an assignment from a company, they rejected my assignment
> without exactly stating what is the problem with my code. They just
> conveyed that it doesn't look like a pythonic way. I would like to
> understand my mistakes and improve on this. It would be good if you can
> help me on this.
>
> I am attaching the problem.txt(which has the assignment details, we need to
> make assumptions), then solution as alignment.tar.gz file.
>
> Looking forward you reply.
>
> Regards,
> Ramesh
>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>
>


-- 
Anuvrat Parashar <http://anuvrat.in>
http://anuvrat.in

From sunil at planmytour.in  Thu Jul 16 19:51:19 2015
From: sunil at planmytour.in (Sunil Gupta)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 23:21:19 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] How to iterate through columns in Model
Message-ID: <CAEB9zJq6UonK5DcQcf6-7EnoEfGuNoi_woRPf_N2+Btp8Win+A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All

how can I iterate through the columns for an object in model

example
for an given object of a model I want to print the verbose name and its
value when the help_text in the model is not NULL.

class Client(models.Model):
    cli_clientid = models.CharField(primary_key=True, verbose_name =
"Client Id", help_text= "This is help")
    cli_client_type = models.CharField(max_length=4, verbose_name = "Client
Type", help_text= "")

Assume Test_Client_Id is the value of cli_clientid os respective object

for each column in Obj
     if column.help_text != "" :
              print "The column ", column.verbose_name, " has value ",
column.value

expected output

The column Client Id has value Test_Client_Id

Thanks
Sunil
9008524726

From senthil at uthcode.com  Thu Jul 16 21:28:48 2015
From: senthil at uthcode.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 12:28:48 -0700
Subject: [BangPypers] How to iterate through columns in Model
In-Reply-To: <CAEB9zJq6UonK5DcQcf6-7EnoEfGuNoi_woRPf_N2+Btp8Win+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEB9zJq6UonK5DcQcf6-7EnoEfGuNoi_woRPf_N2+Btp8Win+A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPOVWOSY1xsDKcOqPr-2ohA8tkH-+W6yHeO-ZLmcu70bjO0M4A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Sunil Gupta <sunil at planmytour.in> wrote:

> for each column in Obj
>      if column.help_text != "" :
>               print "The column ", column.verbose_name, " has value ",
> column.value
>
> expected output
>
> The column Client Id has value Test_Client_Id
>


Look at the attributes / methods of Obj. Does it have something like
.values() ? Check the help of your ORM to find out.
then, it will be similar to what you have done.

for column in Obj.values():
   if column.help_text is not None:
      print column.verbose_name


What ORM are you using?

-- 
Senthil

From senthil at uthcode.com  Thu Jul 16 21:24:41 2015
From: senthil at uthcode.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 12:24:41 -0700
Subject: [BangPypers] Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
In-Reply-To: <CA+YFjT753O=vf+THjyUut9ojAuMZAbv-JsUeNM8khPnh9HO2JQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG7eOLN4Q=_ghLpApJiuu73r6Zs_S_B1wqfSKqUZuBXyUU_tsw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAG7eOLNM5yP871759tkLtcXLoDpYpmkf552LPtxm3eSU5fRHYg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAG7eOLNU5fxVx-ZWiBn99cZk9hVzy5WrqnmVT4mxsSZVybuvUg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+YFjT753O=vf+THjyUut9ojAuMZAbv-JsUeNM8khPnh9HO2JQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPOVWOTVbvbJUtjRD2RsWp+W_8mdDuBJ6JSQHZRmK5=bmHY3GA@mail.gmail.com>

Agree with Anuvrat.

Paste your code in https://gist.github.com/ or upload it github/bitcket and
share it again. I will help with the review.

Thanks,
Senthil



On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Anuvrat Parashar <anuvrat at anuvrat.in>
wrote:

> 1. alignment.tar.gs is missing.
> 2. please consider hosting the code on github / bitbucket instead of
> attaching heavy files.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Ramesh Rajagopal <mail2.rameshr at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "Ramesh Rajagopal" <mail2.rameshr at gmail.com>
> > Date: Jul 16, 2015 3:30 PM
> > Subject: Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
> > To: <bangpypers at python.org>
> > Cc:
> >
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > It would be very helpful, if you can review a small code which I had
> > written in python. It is purely for my personal development perspective.
> >
> > I had a got an assignment from a company, they rejected my assignment
> > without exactly stating what is the problem with my code. They just
> > conveyed that it doesn't look like a pythonic way. I would like to
> > understand my mistakes and improve on this. It would be good if you can
> > help me on this.
> >
> > I am attaching the problem.txt(which has the assignment details, we need
> to
> > make assumptions), then solution as alignment.tar.gz file.
> >
> > Looking forward you reply.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ramesh
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Anuvrat Parashar <http://anuvrat.in>
> http://anuvrat.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From gora at mimirtech.com  Thu Jul 16 21:43:13 2015
From: gora at mimirtech.com (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 01:13:13 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
In-Reply-To: <CAPOVWOTVbvbJUtjRD2RsWp+W_8mdDuBJ6JSQHZRmK5=bmHY3GA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG7eOLN4Q=_ghLpApJiuu73r6Zs_S_B1wqfSKqUZuBXyUU_tsw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAG7eOLNM5yP871759tkLtcXLoDpYpmkf552LPtxm3eSU5fRHYg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAG7eOLNU5fxVx-ZWiBn99cZk9hVzy5WrqnmVT4mxsSZVybuvUg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+YFjT753O=vf+THjyUut9ojAuMZAbv-JsUeNM8khPnh9HO2JQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPOVWOTVbvbJUtjRD2RsWp+W_8mdDuBJ6JSQHZRmK5=bmHY3GA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACiMRGLh7BHaroAs710OFOjd8g2i_LiYNbywkA1640DVK5r3VQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Just forget it. The problem statement itself is so badly broken that
it is unfixable, IMHO. To quote from problem.txt:
"The application will not determine the alignments itself. Instead, the
application must be able to load a set of plugins at runtime that will determine
whether a particular configuration of planets is 'aligned' according to whatever
definition the plugin uses for alignment."

Yes, and without the specification of an interface, I suppose Moses
will come down from the mountain to tell us how a  particular plugin
decides how a planet is <aligned>Oh my God</aligned>. IMHO, it is just
not worth even applying to such companies as their basic recruitment
process seems not to work.

Regards,
Gora


On 17 July 2015 at 00:54, Senthil Kumaran <senthil at uthcode.com> wrote:
> Agree with Anuvrat.
>
> Paste your code in https://gist.github.com/ or upload it github/bitcket and
> share it again. I will help with the review.
>
> Thanks,
> Senthil
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Anuvrat Parashar <anuvrat at anuvrat.in>
> wrote:
>
>> 1. alignment.tar.gs is missing.
>> 2. please consider hosting the code on github / bitbucket instead of
>> attaching heavy files.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Ramesh Rajagopal <mail2.rameshr at gmail.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: "Ramesh Rajagopal" <mail2.rameshr at gmail.com>
>> > Date: Jul 16, 2015 3:30 PM
>> > Subject: Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
>> > To: <bangpypers at python.org>
>> > Cc:
>> >
>> >
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > It would be very helpful, if you can review a small code which I had
>> > written in python. It is purely for my personal development perspective.
>> >
>> > I had a got an assignment from a company, they rejected my assignment
>> > without exactly stating what is the problem with my code. They just
>> > conveyed that it doesn't look like a pythonic way. I would like to
>> > understand my mistakes and improve on this. It would be good if you can
>> > help me on this.
>> >
>> > I am attaching the problem.txt(which has the assignment details, we need
>> to
>> > make assumptions), then solution as alignment.tar.gz file.
>> >
>> > Looking forward you reply.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Ramesh
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > BangPypers mailing list
>> > BangPypers at python.org
>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Anuvrat Parashar <http://anuvrat.in>
>> http://anuvrat.in
>> _______________________________________________
>> BangPypers mailing list
>> BangPypers at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

From kracethekingmaker at gmail.com  Thu Jul 16 22:23:56 2015
From: kracethekingmaker at gmail.com (kracekumar ramaraju)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 01:53:56 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] How to iterate through columns in Model
In-Reply-To: <CAPOVWOSY1xsDKcOqPr-2ohA8tkH-+W6yHeO-ZLmcu70bjO0M4A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEB9zJq6UonK5DcQcf6-7EnoEfGuNoi_woRPf_N2+Btp8Win+A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPOVWOSY1xsDKcOqPr-2ohA8tkH-+W6yHeO-ZLmcu70bjO0M4A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO5c=m=Ai4YwQfMUGxXLqW3Yso5XaDeb66BFWdGRgP5dc2ZXAg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Sunil

 Looks like you're using Django Here is an example

```
In [38]: user = User.objects.all()[0]

In [39]: fields = user._meta.local_fields

In [40]: for field in fields:
    if field.help_text:
        print(field.name, unicode(field.help_text), getattr(user, field.name
))
   ....:
('is_superuser', u'Designates that this user has all permissions without
explicitly assigning them.', True)
('username', u'Required. 30 characters or fewer. Letters, digits and
@/./+/-/_ only.', u'krace')
('is_staff', u'Designates whether the user can log into this admin site.',
True)
('is_active', u'Designates whether this user should be treated as active.
Unselect this instead of deleting accounts.', True)
```

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:58 AM, Senthil Kumaran <senthil at uthcode.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Sunil Gupta <sunil at planmytour.in> wrote:
>
> > for each column in Obj
> >      if column.help_text != "" :
> >               print "The column ", column.verbose_name, " has value ",
> > column.value
> >
> > expected output
> >
> > The column Client Id has value Test_Client_Id
> >
>
>
> Look at the attributes / methods of Obj. Does it have something like
> .values() ? Check the help of your ORM to find out.
> then, it will be similar to what you have done.
>
> for column in Obj.values():
>    if column.help_text is not None:
>       print column.verbose_name
>
>
> What ORM are you using?
>
> --
> Senthil
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 

*Thanks & Regardskracekumar"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus
Torvaldshttp://kracekumar.com <http://kracekumar.com>*

From senthil at uthcode.com  Thu Jul 16 22:24:16 2015
From: senthil at uthcode.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:24:16 -0700
Subject: [BangPypers] Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
In-Reply-To: <CACiMRGLh7BHaroAs710OFOjd8g2i_LiYNbywkA1640DVK5r3VQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG7eOLN4Q=_ghLpApJiuu73r6Zs_S_B1wqfSKqUZuBXyUU_tsw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAPOVWOTVbvbJUtjRD2RsWp+W_8mdDuBJ6JSQHZRmK5=bmHY3GA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Gora Mohanty <gora at mimirtech.com> wrote:

> IMHO, it is just
> not worth even applying to such companies as their basic recruitment
> process seems not to work.
>

Agree. Irrespective of that, this list 'bangpypers' focusses on python
language ecosystem.
So, I thought, we could help with the idiomaticity of the code, if provided
and be helpful to the learner.

-- 
Senthil

From mail2.rameshr at gmail.com  Fri Jul 17 12:55:25 2015
From: mail2.rameshr at gmail.com (Ramesh Rajagopal)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 16:25:25 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
	Message-ID:
	<CACiMRGLh7BHaroAs710OFOjd8g2i_LiYNbywkA1640DVK5r3VQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG7eOLM5OdsGR0hSmZx7CZ+FPWSRptt0vmV=AFhS-zb01xGhPA@mail.gmail.com>

With regards to the below thread-id, I have posted my code into github
account. Please have a look at and review it.

https://github.com/rameshrajagopal/alignment

Regards,
Ramesh


Message: 1
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 01:13:13 +0530
From: Gora Mohanty <gora at mimirtech.com>
To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India <bangpypers at python.org>
Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
Message-ID:
        <CACiMRGLh7BHaroAs710OFOjd8g2i_LiYNbywkA1640DVK5r3VQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi,

Just forget it. The problem statement itself is so badly broken that
it is unfixable, IMHO. To quote from problem.txt:
"The application will not determine the alignments itself. Instead, the
application must be able to load a set of plugins at runtime that will
determine
whether a particular configuration of planets is 'aligned' according to
whatever
definition the plugin uses for alignment."

Yes, and without the specification of an interface, I suppose Moses
will come down from the mountain to tell us how a  particular plugin
decides how a planet is <aligned>Oh my God</aligned>. IMHO, it is just
not worth even applying to such companies as their basic recruitment
process seems not to work.

Regards,
Gora


On 17 July 2015 at 00:54, Senthil Kumaran <senthil at uthcode.com> wrote:
> Agree with Anuvrat.
>
> Paste your code in https://gist.github.com/ or upload it github/bitcket
and
> share it again. I will help with the review.
>
> Thanks,
> Senthil
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Anuvrat Parashar <anuvrat at anuvrat.in>
> wrote:
>
>> 1. alignment.tar.gs is missing.
>> 2. please consider hosting the code on github / bitbucket instead of
>> attaching heavy files.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Ramesh Rajagopal <
mail2.rameshr at gmail.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: "Ramesh Rajagopal" <mail2.rameshr at gmail.com>
>> > Date: Jul 16, 2015 3:30 PM
>> > Subject: Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
>> > To: <bangpypers at python.org>
>> > Cc:
>> >
>> >
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > It would be very helpful, if you can review a small code which I had
>> > written in python. It is purely for my personal development
perspective.
>> >
>> > I had a got an assignment from a company, they rejected my assignment
>> > without exactly stating what is the problem with my code. They just
>> > conveyed that it doesn't look like a pythonic way. I would like to
>> > understand my mistakes and improve on this. It would be good if you can
>> > help me on this.
>> >
>> > I am attaching the problem.txt(which has the assignment details, we
need
>> to
>> > make assumptions), then solution as alignment.tar.gz file.
>> >
>> > Looking forward you reply.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Ramesh
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > BangPypers mailing list
>> > BangPypers at python.org
>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Anuvrat Parashar <http://anuvrat.in>
>> http://anuvrat.in
>> _______________________________________________
>> BangPypers mailing list
>> BangPypers at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

From senthil at uthcode.com  Fri Jul 17 17:20:29 2015
From: senthil at uthcode.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 08:20:29 -0700
Subject: [BangPypers] Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
 Message-ID:
 <CACiMRGLh7BHaroAs710OFOjd8g2i_LiYNbywkA1640DVK5r3VQ@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAG7eOLM5OdsGR0hSmZx7CZ+FPWSRptt0vmV=AFhS-zb01xGhPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG7eOLM5OdsGR0hSmZx7CZ+FPWSRptt0vmV=AFhS-zb01xGhPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPOVWORajnAm8oQMd5kn9z+Yp0X_9z-JdCBiEnv8yySnR7XeUA@mail.gmail.com>

Very minor comments.

1. planet.py: from math import pi as PI

Unless there is a name conflict with the identifier being used. You could
avoid using "as" in the import. Here I guess, you wanted constants in
capitals (perhaps a linter tool required). In that case, you could write it
as import math; and use it is math.pi

2.input_parser.py

Keep the import yaml at the top along with other imports. There is no
reason to have it hidden in the methods.

3. cmdline_parser.py : You don't need a trailing blackslash here.

self.parser.add_argument("--config", dest='config_file', \

Since the break is happening within "(", the implicit line joiners will
take care of having all the arguments within ().

4. arbitory_solar_system.py:
ab_solar_system = ArbitarySolarSystem(config='system.yaml')

You could assign CONSTANTS to various .yaml files.


That said, everything else looks good to me and code was pythonic too.
I believe, you used some tools like pep8, flake8 to do automatic style
fixes.

Thank you,
Senthil



On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:55 AM, Ramesh Rajagopal <mail2.rameshr at gmail.com>
wrote:

> With regards to the below thread-id, I have posted my code into github
> account. Please have a look at and review it.
>
> https://github.com/rameshrajagopal/alignment
>
> Regards,
> Ramesh
>
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 01:13:13 +0530
> From: Gora Mohanty <gora at mimirtech.com>
> To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India <bangpypers at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CACiMRGLh7BHaroAs710OFOjd8g2i_LiYNbywkA1640DVK5r3VQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi,
>
> Just forget it. The problem statement itself is so badly broken that
> it is unfixable, IMHO. To quote from problem.txt:
> "The application will not determine the alignments itself. Instead, the
> application must be able to load a set of plugins at runtime that will
> determine
> whether a particular configuration of planets is 'aligned' according to
> whatever
> definition the plugin uses for alignment."
>
> Yes, and without the specification of an interface, I suppose Moses
> will come down from the mountain to tell us how a  particular plugin
> decides how a planet is <aligned>Oh my God</aligned>. IMHO, it is just
> not worth even applying to such companies as their basic recruitment
> process seems not to work.
>
> Regards,
> Gora
>
>
> On 17 July 2015 at 00:54, Senthil Kumaran <senthil at uthcode.com> wrote:
> > Agree with Anuvrat.
> >
> > Paste your code in https://gist.github.com/ or upload it github/bitcket
> and
> > share it again. I will help with the review.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Senthil
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Anuvrat Parashar <anuvrat at anuvrat.in>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> 1. alignment.tar.gs is missing.
> >> 2. please consider hosting the code on github / bitbucket instead of
> >> attaching heavy files.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Ramesh Rajagopal <
> mail2.rameshr at gmail.com
> >> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> > From: "Ramesh Rajagopal" <mail2.rameshr at gmail.com>
> >> > Date: Jul 16, 2015 3:30 PM
> >> > Subject: Fwd: Need a help on reviewing a python code.
> >> > To: <bangpypers at python.org>
> >> > Cc:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hello All,
> >> >
> >> > It would be very helpful, if you can review a small code which I had
> >> > written in python. It is purely for my personal development
> perspective.
> >> >
> >> > I had a got an assignment from a company, they rejected my assignment
> >> > without exactly stating what is the problem with my code. They just
> >> > conveyed that it doesn't look like a pythonic way. I would like to
> >> > understand my mistakes and improve on this. It would be good if you
> can
> >> > help me on this.
> >> >
> >> > I am attaching the problem.txt(which has the assignment details, we
> need
> >> to
> >> > make assumptions), then solution as alignment.tar.gz file.
> >> >
> >> > Looking forward you reply.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Ramesh
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > BangPypers mailing list
> >> > BangPypers at python.org
> >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Anuvrat Parashar <http://anuvrat.in>
> >> http://anuvrat.in
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> BangPypers mailing list
> >> BangPypers at python.org
> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From deepsukhwani at gmail.com  Sat Jul 18 14:02:15 2015
From: deepsukhwani at gmail.com (Deep Sukhwani)
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 17:32:15 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Nominations for Kenneth Gonsalves Award
Message-ID: <CAEMqiPcLAdhkN=mLaeHtXvs2y31nkEW-Ds5oWX7zzs8dGJ7BbA@mail.gmail.com>

Its time of the year to nominate for the prestigious Kenneth Gonsalves
award.

This award is instituted by PSSI and PSF in the name of our late friend and
mentor, Kenneth Gonsalves who passed away in August 2012. KG, as he is
fondly known in the community, was the founder of the Indian Python
Software Society. This award is for the ones who are doing exemplary work
in Python programming language, its development/adoption/advocacy in India.

You can read more about it on PyConIndia blog:
https://in.pycon.org/blog/2015/kenneth-gonsalves-2015.html

We Pythonistas, strongly encourage you, to come forward and nominate a
worthy candidate for this year's Kenneth Gonsalves award. The nominations
are open now.

If you know someone who has played a key role in the Indian Python
community's development, please nominate their name through the link below:
https://pssi.org.in/nomination/KG2015/

Do your part to help us find a deserving personality to accept the award
this year.

--
Regards
Deep L Sukhwani
?

From kracethekingmaker at gmail.com  Sat Jul 18 22:05:57 2015
From: kracethekingmaker at gmail.com (kracekumar ramaraju)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 01:35:57 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] July Meetup
In-Reply-To: <CAO5c=mk+ZmA_H3hHoY2UZqHXO0Md4WRbofDN1GP_syuJd57c9Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mk+ZmA_H3hHoY2UZqHXO0Md4WRbofDN1GP_syuJd57c9Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO5c=mmG_TyayzLNjzF2iPMdPRyY3_gftJNaw0gqpUDwXS3x8A@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks everyone for attending the event. We had 4 talks attended by 82
participants!
You can read more about the meetup here
http://bangalore.python.org.in/blog/2015/07/18/july-meetup/.

On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 1:09 PM, kracekumar ramaraju <
kracethekingmaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
>   We have our July meetup happening this Saturday. 4 talks are scheduled.
> Here is the list
>
>    - Scaling LinkedIn Infrastructure Management with Python Eco-System by
>    Bhupendra Singh and Veerabahu Subramanian
>    - Avoiding common pitfalls of datetime from a webapp's perspective by
>    Indradhanush
>    - Python, Salt, BitTorrent : Cross?colo data transfer at 10GB/s by
>    Akhil Malik
>    - Explore Big Data using Simple Python Code and Cloud Environment by
>    Hari
>
>
> Date: 18 July, 2015
> Time: 10.00 AM to 1.30 PM.
>
> RSVP [1] is open. We have limited seats RSVP only if you will turn up.
>
> [1]: http://www.meetup.com/BangPypers/events/197867222/
>
> See you on Saturday!
>
>
> *Thanks & Regardskracekumar"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus
> Torvaldshttp://kracekumar.com <http://kracekumar.com>*
>



-- 

*Thanks & Regardskracekumar"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus
Torvaldshttp://kracekumar.com <http://kracekumar.com>*

From kracethekingmaker at gmail.com  Sat Jul 18 22:34:59 2015
From: kracethekingmaker at gmail.com (kracekumar ramaraju)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 02:04:59 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
Message-ID: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

 We have come long way with BangPypers meetup [1]. In last two years, we
conducted regular workshops and talks. We have seen people travelling from
different cities to attend our meetups. 82 people attended our last meetup!

There are lot of companies use Python in Bangalore. Most of these companies
approach the organizing team for leads to hire developers. We don't share
any participant info and don't want to. We redirect them to ML and other
job boards.

There was a suggestion of having 10 minutes slot at the end of the meetup
where companies can speak about them and openings for 2 minutes.

Thoughts ? Any other ways to facilitate this ?

[1]: https://meetup.com/bangpypers

-- 

*Thanks & Regardskracekumar"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus
Torvaldshttp://kracekumar.com <http://kracekumar.com>*

From anand21nanda at gmail.com  Sun Jul 19 07:50:01 2015
From: anand21nanda at gmail.com (Anand Reddy Pandikunta)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:20:01 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALCtiO4wZpXNAaOhwX+nP=fhSsciqvhQ+BG9uN5cL1YGbD85+A@mail.gmail.com>

It is a good initiative & BangPypers should facilitate this.

However it is better to keep it aside instead of bringing this into
mainstream.

* We can have a simple job board site where companies can send pull
requests.
* We can have a separate meetup once in a while only for this.


Regards,

Anand Reddy Pandikunta (@ChillarAnand)
www.avilpage.com


On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 2:04 AM, kracekumar ramaraju <
kracethekingmaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
>  We have come long way with BangPypers meetup [1]. In last two years, we
> conducted regular workshops and talks. We have seen people travelling from
> different cities to attend our meetups. 82 people attended our last meetup!
>
> There are lot of companies use Python in Bangalore. Most of these companies
> approach the organizing team for leads to hire developers. We don't share
> any participant info and don't want to. We redirect them to ML and other
> job boards.
>
> There was a suggestion of having 10 minutes slot at the end of the meetup
> where companies can speak about them and openings for 2 minutes.
>
> Thoughts ? Any other ways to facilitate this ?
>
> [1]: https://meetup.com/bangpypers
>
> --
>
> *Thanks & Regardskracekumar"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus
> Torvaldshttp://kracekumar.com <http://kracekumar.com>*
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From vnbang2003 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 19 09:46:23 2015
From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 13:16:23 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHX9ajRGFtRQj5g0c73P8ESDAbJKk+5-7G105Q0Qcyo2nuZ9Tw@mail.gmail.com>

>
>
> There was a suggestion of having 10 minutes slot at the end of the meetup
> where companies can speak about them and openings for 2 minutes.
>
> -1
Today lot of participants come as it's a place to gain and share knowledge.
We should not be changing the intention of meetup by providing space for
hiring, it might turn out being a commercial space.

Am afraid allowing companies to talk about themselves and their job
opportunities might create conflict of interest with the company providing
space for our meetup which may not be good for us.

I would say lets stick to knowledge sharing and discussion about python for
meetup

We already have job page on python India website (
http://python.org.in/jobs/). We should plan to work on that page instead.
Otherwise we can have Bangpypers newsletter where we send meetup details
along with job opportunities as well.

But my question is
 What does Bangpypers get in return for publishing about X company job
requirement?

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Sun Jul 19 16:48:33 2015
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:18:33 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 (kracekumar ramaraju's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2015 02:04:59 +0530")
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87lhecursu.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>

On Sun, Jul 19 2015, kracekumar ramaraju wrote:

[...]

> There was a suggestion of having 10 minutes slot at the end of the meetup
> where companies can speak about them and openings for 2 minutes.

+1 atleast as an experiment. Companies are part of the "community".
[...]


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From anandology at gmail.com  Sun Jul 19 17:24:07 2015
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:54:07 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC7wXFxOba4Owt0JgDxv=QEJrsJMOX9jGms4zuxcLi+AO6K-Qg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 2:04 AM, kracekumar ramaraju <
kracethekingmaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
>  We have come long way with BangPypers meetup [1]. In last two years, we
> conducted regular workshops and talks. We have seen people travelling from
> different cities to attend our meetups. 82 people attended our last meetup!
>

Kudos to Krace and all volunteers and speakers for great work! Thats almost
like a mini conference every month.


> There are lot of companies use Python in Bangalore. Most of these companies
> approach the organizing team for leads to hire developers. We don't share
> any participant info and don't want to. We redirect them to ML and other
> job boards.
>
> There was a suggestion of having 10 minutes slot at the end of the meetup
> where companies can speak about them and openings for 2 minutes.
>
> Thoughts ? Any other ways to facilitate this ?
>

I think that is very good idea. Companies are also part of the ecosystem
and it is fair give them a place to present about themselves. As long that
they take just 10 minutes of time and don't dominate the whole meetup, I
think should do it.

Anand

From anusree.a04 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 19 17:57:04 2015
From: anusree.a04 at gmail.com (anu sree)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 21:27:04 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFxOba4Owt0JgDxv=QEJrsJMOX9jGms4zuxcLi+AO6K-Qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAC7wXFxOba4Owt0JgDxv=QEJrsJMOX9jGms4zuxcLi+AO6K-Qg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM3n56xD4FyBZGaWXURny7OoW+pjPuq6Nmcc1wCG1qiunCzQ0g@mail.gmail.com>

+1. It will be helpful for beginner like me to get job.

From deepsukhwani at gmail.com  Sun Jul 19 18:11:30 2015
From: deepsukhwani at gmail.com (Deep Sukhwani)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 21:41:30 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFxOba4Owt0JgDxv=QEJrsJMOX9jGms4zuxcLi+AO6K-Qg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAC7wXFxOba4Owt0JgDxv=QEJrsJMOX9jGms4zuxcLi+AO6K-Qg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMqiPfNHV3YYanf8J+a4aW_z68WGOhTM6+Z3+n9DsdooCKDAA@mail.gmail.com>

One major concern of all is that people showing up on meetups ONLY
with an agenda of getting a chance to speak with employers.

That said, I agree with Noufal Ibrahim KV to at least experiment with
it once before making a decision to stick with it or not.

On Jul 19, 2015 8:54 PM, "Anand Chitipothu" <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 2:04 AM, kracekumar ramaraju <
> kracethekingmaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> >  We have come long way with BangPypers meetup [1]. In last two years, we
> > conducted regular workshops and talks. We have seen people travelling from
> > different cities to attend our meetups. 82 people attended our last meetup!
> >
>
> Kudos to Krace and all volunteers and speakers for great work! Thats almost
> like a mini conference every month.
>
>
> > There are lot of companies use Python in Bangalore. Most of these companies
> > approach the organizing team for leads to hire developers. We don't share
> > any participant info and don't want to. We redirect them to ML and other
> > job boards.
> >
> > There was a suggestion of having 10 minutes slot at the end of the meetup
> > where companies can speak about them and openings for 2 minutes.
> >
> > Thoughts ? Any other ways to facilitate this ?
> >
>
> I think that is very good idea. Companies are also part of the ecosystem
> and it is fair give them a place to present about themselves. As long that
> they take just 10 minutes of time and don't dominate the whole meetup, I
> think should do it.
>
> Anand
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
?

From anandology at gmail.com  Sun Jul 19 18:45:49 2015
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 22:15:49 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAEMqiPfNHV3YYanf8J+a4aW_z68WGOhTM6+Z3+n9DsdooCKDAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAC7wXFxOba4Owt0JgDxv=QEJrsJMOX9jGms4zuxcLi+AO6K-Qg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAEMqiPfNHV3YYanf8J+a4aW_z68WGOhTM6+Z3+n9DsdooCKDAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAC7wXFyLHmioGZi5+jOYwLMhSMcWmkFzOhjva=3-HJMRu_c9-A@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Deep Sukhwani <deepsukhwani at gmail.com>
wrote:

> One major concern of all is that people showing up on meetups ONLY
> with an agenda of getting a chance to speak with employers.
>

IMHO, creating a venue for people to talk to potential employers is a good
thing. As long as that doesn't takeover the user group meeting, we should
encourage it. As Krace suggested, keeping it for last 10 minutes is a good
idea.

That said, I agree with Noufal Ibrahim KV to at least experiment with
> it once before making a decision to stick with it or not.
>

+1

Anand

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Sun Jul 19 18:48:11 2015
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 22:18:11 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAEMqiPfNHV3YYanf8J+a4aW_z68WGOhTM6+Z3+n9DsdooCKDAA@mail.gmail.com>
 (Deep Sukhwani's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2015 21:41:30 +0530")
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAC7wXFxOba4Owt0JgDxv=QEJrsJMOX9jGms4zuxcLi+AO6K-Qg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAEMqiPfNHV3YYanf8J+a4aW_z68WGOhTM6+Z3+n9DsdooCKDAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <871tg4um9g.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>

On Sun, Jul 19 2015, Deep Sukhwani wrote:

> One major concern of all is that people showing up on meetups ONLY
> with an agenda of getting a chance to speak with employers.

True but I think this distinction between "community" and "companies" is
not as clear cut as it's made out to be. Companies do donate things like
office space etc. and they get publicity and possibly, hires. To
formalise that a little and to get them more involved sounds, to me,
like a good thing. 

And, as a general rule, it's good to assume that the companies are
"good" community players and design the meeting for good people. If we
find someone trying to take advantage of the whole thing and poisoning
the ecosystem, we can always do something then.


[...]


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From kracethekingmaker at gmail.com  Sun Jul 19 19:51:40 2015
From: kracethekingmaker at gmail.com (kracekumar ramaraju)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 23:21:40 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CALCtiO4wZpXNAaOhwX+nP=fhSsciqvhQ+BG9uN5cL1YGbD85+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALCtiO4wZpXNAaOhwX+nP=fhSsciqvhQ+BG9uN5cL1YGbD85+A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO5c=mmJRVSs3qpdBXEeWL2r9cCckbhMinLKtRe1yzjLJVZ7xQ@mail.gmail.com>

>
> [...]
> * We can have a simple job board site where companies can send pull
> requests.
> * We can have a separate meetup once in a while only for this.
>
>
Logistics and operations is going to be hard.


>
> Regards,
>
>

-- 

*Thanks & Regardskracekumar"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus
Torvaldshttp://kracekumar.com <http://kracekumar.com>*

From kracethekingmaker at gmail.com  Sun Jul 19 20:02:45 2015
From: kracethekingmaker at gmail.com (kracekumar ramaraju)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 23:32:45 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAHX9ajRGFtRQj5g0c73P8ESDAbJKk+5-7G105Q0Qcyo2nuZ9Tw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHX9ajRGFtRQj5g0c73P8ESDAbJKk+5-7G105Q0Qcyo2nuZ9Tw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO5c=m==K85iGwrSB=F1amSVvZ7FvAGB90XmJZFP2mXMjeyMAg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 1:16 PM, vijay kumar <vnbang2003 at gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> >
> > There was a suggestion of having 10 minutes slot at the end of the meetup
> > where companies can speak about them and openings for 2 minutes.
> >
> > -1
> Today lot of participants come as it's a place to gain and share knowledge.
> We should not be changing the intention of meetup by providing space for
> hiring, it might turn out being a commercial space.
>
Am afraid allowing companies to talk about themselves and their job
> opportunities might create conflict of interest with the company providing
> space for our meetup which may not be good for us.
>

Good point. We need to communicate this to host.


>
> I would say lets stick to knowledge sharing and discussion about python for
> meetup
>
> We already have job page on python India website (
> http://python.org.in/jobs/). We should plan to work on that page instead.
> Otherwise we can have Bangpypers newsletter where we send meetup details
> along with job opportunities as well.
>

+1 for job board and newsletter. If there are any volunteers to take this
up, we can think of bigger collaboration.


> But my question is
>  What does Bangpypers get in return for publishing about X company job
> requirement?
>

Probably too early to predict. Boston Python User group does take
sponsorship [1] and [2].

[1]: http://www.meetup.com/bostonpython/pages/How_sponsorship_works/
[2]: http://www.meetup.com/bostonpython/pages/Job_Posting_requirements/

If companies can find developers and learn from other developers,
BangPypers meetups will be relevant.

_______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 

*Thanks & Regardskracekumar"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus
Torvaldshttp://kracekumar.com <http://kracekumar.com>*

From kracethekingmaker at gmail.com  Sun Jul 19 20:08:52 2015
From: kracethekingmaker at gmail.com (kracekumar ramaraju)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 23:38:52 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <871tg4um9g.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAC7wXFxOba4Owt0JgDxv=QEJrsJMOX9jGms4zuxcLi+AO6K-Qg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAEMqiPfNHV3YYanf8J+a4aW_z68WGOhTM6+Z3+n9DsdooCKDAA@mail.gmail.com>
 <871tg4um9g.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
Message-ID: <CAO5c=mnrg7nBz-eH6UXwnEG7ePWtM=hMiN5vcJPrU=b-TZ7Aaw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 19 2015, Deep Sukhwani wrote:
>
> > One major concern of all is that people showing up on meetups ONLY
> > with an agenda of getting a chance to speak with employers.
>
> True but I think this distinction between "community" and "companies" is
> not as clear cut as it's made out to be. Companies do donate things like
> office space etc. and they get publicity and possibly, hires. To
> formalise that a little and to get them more involved sounds, to me,
> like a good thing.
>

Companies also sponsor lunch. This becomes extended space to catchup with
speakers and participants.


> And, as a general rule, it's good to assume that the companies are
> "good" community players and design the meeting for good people. If we
> find someone trying to take advantage of the whole thing and poisoning
> the ecosystem, we can always do something then.
>
>
> [...]
>
>
> --
> Cordially,
> Noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 

*Thanks & Regardskracekumar"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus
Torvaldshttp://kracekumar.com <http://kracekumar.com>*

From vnbang2003 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 06:48:52 2015
From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:18:52 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAO5c=m==K85iGwrSB=F1amSVvZ7FvAGB90XmJZFP2mXMjeyMAg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHX9ajRGFtRQj5g0c73P8ESDAbJKk+5-7G105Q0Qcyo2nuZ9Tw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAO5c=m==K85iGwrSB=F1amSVvZ7FvAGB90XmJZFP2mXMjeyMAg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHX9ajTwhCtVaih88+WbxXhTHfESkfZfhc0ntmFC_UPQxkH3Ag@mail.gmail.com>

>

> > We already have job page on python India website (
> > http://python.org.in/jobs/). We should plan to work on that page
> instead.
> > Otherwise we can have Bangpypers newsletter where we send meetup details
> > along with job opportunities as well.
> >
>
> +1 for job board and newsletter. If there are any volunteers to take this
> up, we can think of bigger collaboration.
>

I can volunteer for Job board and run for 1 years. Let me know if anyone
can join me.

From jaga at jagadesh.in  Mon Jul 20 07:00:28 2015
From: jaga at jagadesh.in (Jagadesh Babu T)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:30:28 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAHX9ajTwhCtVaih88+WbxXhTHfESkfZfhc0ntmFC_UPQxkH3Ag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHX9ajRGFtRQj5g0c73P8ESDAbJKk+5-7G105Q0Qcyo2nuZ9Tw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAO5c=m==K85iGwrSB=F1amSVvZ7FvAGB90XmJZFP2mXMjeyMAg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHX9ajTwhCtVaih88+WbxXhTHfESkfZfhc0ntmFC_UPQxkH3Ag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN9uPT7s7rpxg=wR3Y99cZExqLhc6TD1dLx_LgH8zUxG_vuu+Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Vijay,

I can help you with that.

Thanks
Jagadesh Babu T
9066375854
On Jul 20, 2015 10:19 AM, "vijay kumar" <vnbang2003 at gmail.com> wrote:

> >
>
> > > We already have job page on python India website (
> > > http://python.org.in/jobs/). We should plan to work on that page
> > instead.
> > > Otherwise we can have Bangpypers newsletter where we send meetup
> details
> > > along with job opportunities as well.
> > >
> >
> > +1 for job board and newsletter. If there are any volunteers to take this
> > up, we can think of bigger collaboration.
> >
>
> I can volunteer for Job board and run for 1 years. Let me know if anyone
> can join me.
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 07:12:21 2015
From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:42:21 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAHX9ajRGFtRQj5g0c73P8ESDAbJKk+5-7G105Q0Qcyo2nuZ9Tw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHX9ajRGFtRQj5g0c73P8ESDAbJKk+5-7G105Q0Qcyo2nuZ9Tw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKQ+-3zG7YdJO3Wai3GFDetP=hLQv2g8CsDdt_tZ6_5VW8y4Qw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 1:16 PM, vijay kumar <vnbang2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> There was a suggestion of having 10 minutes slot at the end of the meetup
>> where companies can speak about them and openings for 2 minutes.
>>
>> -1
> Today lot of participants come as it's a place to gain and share knowledge.
> We should not be changing the intention of meetup by providing space for
> hiring, it might turn out being a commercial space.
>
> Am afraid allowing companies to talk about themselves and their job
> opportunities might create conflict of interest with the company providing
> space for our meetup which may not be good for us.

As a thought exercise consider this. Company A offers the space for
the meetup. On the day of the meetup the host ensures that there is
adequate material/swag/branding available that provide a guidance to
"available opportunities", "how to apply" etc. And if you stop and
think about it, this is not too far fetched. For example, at my day
job, the external facing areas have branding material which make it
easy to identify with specific projects/products.

Asking companies to create anechoic chambers as a pre-condition for
hosting is somewhat untenable.

> I would say lets stick to knowledge sharing and discussion about python for
> meetup
>
> We already have job page on python India website (
> http://python.org.in/jobs/). We should plan to work on that page instead.

How often is that used to be a platform for opportunities within the
Python community?

> Otherwise we can have Bangpypers newsletter where we send meetup details
> along with job opportunities as well.
>
> But my question is
>  What does Bangpypers get in return for publishing about X company job
> requirement?

A question in turn (although it is poor form to respond to a question
with another) - why does Bangpyper want to get anything in return of
the stated objective is "sharing and discussing about Python"?

-- 
sankarshan mukhopadhyay
<https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan>

From sree at mahiti.org  Mon Jul 20 07:28:47 2015
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:58:47 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAHX9ajRGFtRQj5g0c73P8ESDAbJKk+5-7G105Q0Qcyo2nuZ9Tw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHX9ajRGFtRQj5g0c73P8ESDAbJKk+5-7G105Q0Qcyo2nuZ9Tw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD=RLAjY8hACcThOXuhotpME=TAF3gexoBTSiZu=0hF3FYHmYw@mail.gmail.com>

On 19 July 2015 at 13:16, vijay kumar <vnbang2003 at gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> >
> > There was a suggestion of having 10 minutes slot at the end of the meetup
> > where companies can speak about them and openings for 2 minutes.
> >
> > -1
> Today lot of participants come as it's a place to gain and share knowledge.
> We should not be changing the intention of meetup by providing space for
> hiring, it might turn out being a commercial space.


I agree with Vijay. Let those stuff happen informally. Let meet up be
places for learning and sharing. Commercialising them will take them in the
path of typical RoR conferences.
We should stay clear of that path.
- sree


-- 
Sreekanth S Rameshaiah
Executive Director
Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd.
An ISO 9001:2008 & ISO 27001:2013 Enterprise

Phone:  +91 80 4905 8444
Mobile:  +91 98455 12611
www.mahiti.org

From vnbang2003 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 07:59:15 2015
From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:29:15 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAKQ+-3zG7YdJO3Wai3GFDetP=hLQv2g8CsDdt_tZ6_5VW8y4Qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHX9ajRGFtRQj5g0c73P8ESDAbJKk+5-7G105Q0Qcyo2nuZ9Tw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAKQ+-3zG7YdJO3Wai3GFDetP=hLQv2g8CsDdt_tZ6_5VW8y4Qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHX9ajShN6MupcUuZ5==2j4CbBYuObQNvixW2OE7FJojhWQW=g@mail.gmail.com>

>
> > We already have job page on python India website (
> > http://python.org.in/jobs/). We should plan to work on that page
> instead.
>
> How often is that used to be a platform for opportunities within the
> Python community?
>
As of today "no one use it" as the page was place holder for idea to create
job posting page.
I plan to take it a project and develop so it can become place for creating
opportunities.
Hope to get few more help hand to drive it.
Here is github path(https://github.com/pythonindia/planet-python-india)


> > Otherwise we can have Bangpypers newsletter where we send meetup details
> > along with job opportunities as well.
> >
> > But my question is
> >  What does Bangpypers get in return for publishing about X company job
> > requirement?
>
> A question in turn (although it is poor form to respond to a question
> with another) - why does Bangpyper want to get anything in return of
> the stated objective is "sharing and discussing about Python"?
>

We expect companies to be alteast be active in community in share knowledge
rather than just coming for job posting announcement.

It might even endup becoming Job Fair where people(carry resumes) and
companies(Carry boxes) come for hiring not to discuss about python.

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Mon Jul 20 08:09:18 2015
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:39:18 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAHX9ajShN6MupcUuZ5==2j4CbBYuObQNvixW2OE7FJojhWQW=g@mail.gmail.com>
 (vijay kumar's message of "Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:29:15 +0530")
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHX9ajRGFtRQj5g0c73P8ESDAbJKk+5-7G105Q0Qcyo2nuZ9Tw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAKQ+-3zG7YdJO3Wai3GFDetP=hLQv2g8CsDdt_tZ6_5VW8y4Qw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHX9ajShN6MupcUuZ5==2j4CbBYuObQNvixW2OE7FJojhWQW=g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <878uabtl69.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>

On Mon, Jul 20 2015, vijay kumar wrote:


[...]

> We expect companies to be alteast be active in community in share knowledge
> rather than just coming for job posting announcement.

Companies are not interested in "sharing knowledge". They're interested
in hiring and making money as it should be. Employees from companies
share knowledge and do things like what you've said and they sometimes
move between organisations. A user group meetup is a fine place to do
this.

I just feel that we shouldn't get too "leftist" about the way we speak
to companies. There is some place for commercial interests in a healthy
community. A position where the "community" and the "companies" are
completely separate and even confrontational is not sustainable.

> It might even endup becoming Job Fair where people(carry resumes) and
> companies(Carry boxes) come for hiring not to discuss about python.

I don't see the point in shooting down an idea based on an extreme
doomsday scenario. If people start doing this, the organisers can stop
it. My expectation is that *most* of the companies get how the ecosystem
works and will respect it. There will be a few people, probably non tech
folks who just focus on hiring who might screw things up but we can
always tell them to stop rather than cancel the whole project up front.

In either case, it's really great that such a possibility is even being
discussed. The people working on bangpypers really deserve our
appreciation for bringing the whole thing upto this level and going
forward, I'm sure it'll only get better.

[...]


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From sree at mahiti.org  Mon Jul 20 08:13:00 2015
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:43:00 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <878uabtl69.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHX9ajRGFtRQj5g0c73P8ESDAbJKk+5-7G105Q0Qcyo2nuZ9Tw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAKQ+-3zG7YdJO3Wai3GFDetP=hLQv2g8CsDdt_tZ6_5VW8y4Qw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHX9ajShN6MupcUuZ5==2j4CbBYuObQNvixW2OE7FJojhWQW=g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAD=RLAjbMw-dwtN0tFGfh=hunuF7QD4D=whW_8khtqN51Wg4dg@mail.gmail.com>

On 20 July 2015 at 11:39, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:

> > We expect companies to be alteast be active in community in share
> knowledge
> > rather than just coming for job posting announcement.
>
> Companies are not interested in "sharing knowledge". They're interested
> in hiring and making money as it should be. Employees from companies
> share knowledge and do things like what you've said and they sometimes
> move between organisations. A user group meetup is a fine place to do
> this.


This is not correct. Many companies have sponsored space and snacks without
expecting any thing in return. If a company offers space to you to conduct
meeting and competing companies go there to make 10 minute presentation of
job offers, then companies will have a second thought to offer space. In my
opinion the meetups should remain neutral and be places for both businesses
and individuals to volunteer/ contribute.
- sree


-- 
Sreekanth S Rameshaiah
Executive Director
Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd.
An ISO 9001:2008 & ISO 27001:2013 Enterprise

Phone:  +91 80 4905 8444
Mobile:  +91 98455 12611
www.mahiti.org

From vnbang2003 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 08:16:55 2015
From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:46:55 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <878uabtl69.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHX9ajRGFtRQj5g0c73P8ESDAbJKk+5-7G105Q0Qcyo2nuZ9Tw@mail.gmail.com>
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>   There is some place for commercial interests in a healthy
> community.
>
It already there,  i have seen where people give interviews instead of
attending talks.
Is that the purpose of meetup?

The people working on bangpypers really deserve our
> appreciation for bringing the whole thing upto this level and going
> forward,
>

Am one among them hence i want to see it continue to be what it is today.

From vnbang2003 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 08:19:25 2015
From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:49:25 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAD=RLAjbMw-dwtN0tFGfh=hunuF7QD4D=whW_8khtqN51Wg4dg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree at mahiti.org>
wrote:

> On 20 July 2015 at 11:39, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
> wrote:
>
> > > We expect companies to be alteast be active in community in share
> > knowledge
> > > rather than just coming for job posting announcement.
> >
> > Companies are not interested in "sharing knowledge". They're interested
> > in hiring and making money as it should be. Employees from companies
> > share knowledge and do things like what you've said and they sometimes
> > move between organisations. A user group meetup is a fine place to do
> > this.
>
>
> This is not correct. Many companies have sponsored space and snacks without
> expecting any thing in return.
>
> +1 Lot of companies have provided us space and lot of facilities We are
thankful of it.
I didn't see they we interested in making money.
Krace,
    Please correct i am wrong.

From mandarvaze at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 08:21:20 2015
From: mandarvaze at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFuZGFyIFZhemUgLyDgpK7gpILgpKbgpL7gpLAg4KS14KSd4KWH?=)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:51:20 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAD=RLAjbMw-dwtN0tFGfh=hunuF7QD4D=whW_8khtqN51Wg4dg@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> This is not correct. Many companies have sponsored space and snacks without
> expecting any thing in return. If a company offers space to you to conduct
> meeting and competing companies go there to make 10 minute presentation of
> job offers, then companies will have a second thought to offer space.


How about "A company that sponsors a meetup, formally gets 10 minutes at
the end" ?
This alleviates the above concern, also more companies may come forward to
sponsor

-Mandar

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Mon Jul 20 08:25:22 2015
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:55:22 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAHX9ajSuvLwWRcG=9dddQZv856fOfvV25RQUq475ous8eRtUxw@mail.gmail.com>
 (vijay kumar's message of "Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:46:55 +0530")
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On Mon, Jul 20 2015, vijay kumar wrote:


[...]
> Am one among them hence i want to see it continue to be what it is
> today.
[...]

That's great and I'm sure it'll get better. My comments were just my own
thoughts. 


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From sree at mahiti.org  Mon Jul 20 08:24:00 2015
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:54:00 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CADDYdfs7XKWCgZteq7sue_LxB8qvJJj0jcfwUWKw9bHvczHeAw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 20 July 2015 at 11:51, Mandar Vaze / ????? ??? <mandarvaze at gmail.com>
wrote:

> How about "A company that sponsors a meetup, formally gets 10 minutes at
> the end" ?
> This alleviates the above concern, also more companies may come forward to
> sponsor
>

Why will volunteer speakers go and talk in a venue to enable host-company
run a jobfair?
- sree


-- 
Sreekanth S Rameshaiah
Executive Director
Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd.
An ISO 9001:2008 & ISO 27001:2013 Enterprise

Phone:  +91 80 4905 8444
Mobile:  +91 98455 12611
www.mahiti.org

From satyaakam at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 08:28:20 2015
From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyaakam goswami)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:58:20 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CALre89mx4PoNQ9yk4Cr_kb+nq-qPP-BY6+4jzfi+WupmG1FTXw@mail.gmail.com>

>
>
>
> Thoughts ? Any other ways to facilitate this ?
>
> [1]: https://meetup.com/bangpypers


?i think we are thinking too much into something which has been not an non
issue and the whole thread has construed into something which it was never
the intent of OP :-) this is how we handle these scenarios .

1. no direct pitches
2?. have meetup in neutral place as far as possible
3. let people who are there to hire identify themselves and work towards
selling whatever in the meetup in an informal way when networking.
4. Company people as individuals are encouraged  to talk about open source
contributions while giving a talk , and job offerings in a very subtle way .
5. bottom line offering jobs is good for ecosystem we are not living in
Utopian society and while the rules of engagement are agreed upon by both
parties , this should be encouraged to a level not to get overwhelmed by
 the whole concept .


?cheers?


-Satya
Satyaakam.net <http://satyaakam.net/> | fossevents.in |

From anandpillai at letterboxes.org  Mon Jul 20 08:28:50 2015
From: anandpillai at letterboxes.org (Anand B Pillai)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:58:50 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
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On Monday 20 July 2015 11:43 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote:

> 
> This is not correct. Many companies have sponsored space and snacks
> without expecting any thing in return. If a company offers space to
> you to conduct meeting and competing companies go there to make 10
> minute presentation of job offers, then companies will have a
> second thought to offer space. In my opinion the meetups should
> remain neutral and be places for both businesses and individuals to
> volunteer/ contribute.


BangPypers meetups are primarily to share knowledge. How the knowledge
is used then - to prepare for an interview or to do an open source
project or whatever - is up to the people who attend it.

It is not the right forum for a direct pitch by companies.

Imagine a scenario where startup X is hosting a BangPypers meetup.
Assume an employee of startup Y is pitching for his company at the end
of the meetup. Let us say Startup Y happens to be a direct competitor
of startup X.

How do you think that will work ?

It would be take a lot of effort to co-ordinate the logistics for this
I am afraid the focus will move away from the core - the talks and
meeting other like minded people.

A big -1.

> - sree
> 
> 


- -- 
Regards,

- --Anand

- ----------------------------
Software Architect/Consultant
anandpillai at letterboxes.org

Cell: +919880078014
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From mandarvaze at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 08:30:56 2015
From: mandarvaze at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFuZGFyIFZhemUgLyDgpK7gpILgpKbgpL7gpLAg4KS14KSd4KWH?=)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:00:56 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree at mahiti.org>
wrote:

>
> On 20 July 2015 at 11:51, Mandar Vaze / ????? ??? <mandarvaze at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How about "A company that sponsors a meetup, formally gets 10 minutes at
>> the end" ?
>> This alleviates the above concern, also more companies may come forward
>> to sponsor
>>
>
> Why will volunteer speakers go and talk in a venue to enable host-company
> run a jobfair?
> - sree
>

I was only trying to address issue where "company A provides space/lunch
and Companies b-z get all the hires"

-Mandar

From kracethekingmaker at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 09:35:22 2015
From: kracethekingmaker at gmail.com (kracekumar ramaraju)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:05:22 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
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On Jul 20, 2015 11:49 AM, "vijay kumar" <vnbang2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree at mahiti.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On 20 July 2015 at 11:39, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > We expect companies to be alteast be active in community in share
> > > knowledge
> > > > rather than just coming for job posting announcement.
> > >
> > > Companies are not interested in "sharing knowledge". They're
interested
> > > in hiring and making money as it should be. Employees from companies
> > > share knowledge and do things like what you've said and they sometimes
> > > move between organisations. A user group meetup is a fine place to do
> > > this.
> >
> >
> > This is not correct. Many companies have sponsored space and snacks
without
> > expecting any thing in return.
> >
> > +1 Lot of companies have provided us space and lot of facilities We are
> thankful of it.
> I didn't see they we interested in making money.
> Krace,
>     Please correct i am wrong.

Yes, all our hosts are very kind and we didn't have any issues.
_______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

From kracethekingmaker at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 09:50:04 2015
From: kracethekingmaker at gmail.com (kracekumar ramaraju)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:20:04 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
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>
>
>
> Imagine a scenario where startup X is hosting a BangPypers meetup.
> Assume an employee of startup Y is pitching for his company at the end
> of the meetup. Let us say Startup Y happens to be a direct competitor
> of startup X.
>
> How do you think that will work ?
>

Yes, this can get nasty.


>
> It would be take a lot of effort to co-ordinate the logistics for this
> I am afraid the focus will move away from the core - the talks and
> meeting other like minded people.
>
> A big -1.
>
> > - sree
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
-- 

*Thanks & Regardskracekumar"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus
Torvaldshttp://kracekumar.com <http://kracekumar.com>*

From nitin.nitp at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 10:12:45 2015
From: nitin.nitp at gmail.com (Nitin Kumar)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:42:45 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
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> > Many companies have sponsored space and snacks
without expecting any thing in return.

So in such case isn't it our responsibility to give a chance (to speak
about opportunity) to the company hosting the workshop.
Even I feel some of the audience would be quite interested in them (after
having a look to their infra, teams)

From sree at mahiti.org  Mon Jul 20 10:17:39 2015
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:47:39 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
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On 20 July 2015 at 13:42, Nitin Kumar <nitin.nitp at gmail.com> wrote:

> So in such case isn't it our responsibility to give a chance (to speak
> about opportunity) to the company hosting the workshop.
> Even I feel some of the audience would be quite interested in them (after
> having a look to their infra, teams)
>

No, its volunteering. Even speaks give their time and share knowledge. They
are not incentivised either.
Informal conversations between whoever are interested are not an issue.

- sree


-- 
Sreekanth S Rameshaiah
Executive Director
Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd.
An ISO 9001:2008 & ISO 27001:2013 Enterprise

Phone:  +91 80 4905 8444
Mobile:  +91 98455 12611
www.mahiti.org

From skb655952 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 10:51:05 2015
From: skb655952 at gmail.com (sayantan bhattacharya)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:21:05 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAD=RLAhwa7vWRoC0SzN0kX19YrMe6LbYCpufie_t2mp7+7qs7w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CA+Brzm9G87W4zV+XVtMZTTq2rgSuFqivDih-fXXeFZdHa9F2rw@mail.gmail.com>

Going through the mails, I think it would be better for us to maintain a
job posting site/place separately. Personally, I like the meet-ups for the
information they provide as well as chatting with other programmers.
Allowing companies/startups to present their content would not fit the
actual purpose of the meet ups. But, there's the portion of companies
allowing us to meet at their locations, to which we can allow the hosting
company to present their content as compared to allowing other companies to
come up too.

For example, Company A is hosting our meet-up, so by default Company A gets
the chance to place their content, availing this chance will be at the sole
disposal of Company A. But in case Company B wishes to present too, they
will have to get prior permission from Company A along with the organizers
of the meet-up.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree at mahiti.org>
wrote:

> On 20 July 2015 at 13:42, Nitin Kumar <nitin.nitp at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So in such case isn't it our responsibility to give a chance (to speak
> > about opportunity) to the company hosting the workshop.
> > Even I feel some of the audience would be quite interested in them (after
> > having a look to their infra, teams)
> >
>
> No, its volunteering. Even speaks give their time and share knowledge. They
> are not incentivised either.
> Informal conversations between whoever are interested are not an issue.
>
> - sree
>
>
> --
> Sreekanth S Rameshaiah
> Executive Director
> Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd.
> An ISO 9001:2008 & ISO 27001:2013 Enterprise
>
> Phone:  +91 80 4905 8444
> Mobile:  +91 98455 12611
> www.mahiti.org
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
Sayantan Bhattacharya

From mandarvaze at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 11:33:06 2015
From: mandarvaze at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?TWFuZGFyIFZhemUgLyDgpK7gpILgpKbgpL7gpLAg4KS14KSd4KWH?=)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:03:06 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
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Message-ID: <CADDYdfsYqxAFdUcQueRoe7_iYtYAG7QdgFj5HP+i5DNv_V47RQ@mail.gmail.com>

>
> But in case Company B wishes to present too, they
> will have to get prior permission from Company A along with the organizers
> of the meet-up.
>

Or Company B can just sponsor next meetup ;)

-Mandar

From skb655952 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 11:57:42 2015
From: skb655952 at gmail.com (sayantan bhattacharya)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:27:42 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CADDYdfsYqxAFdUcQueRoe7_iYtYAG7QdgFj5HP+i5DNv_V47RQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Exactly. So, in case the organizers are looking for sponsors for the next
meetup, the search time reduces too.
On Jul 20, 2015 3:03 PM, "Mandar Vaze / ????? ???" <mandarvaze at gmail.com>
wrote:

> >
> > But in case Company B wishes to present too, they
> > will have to get prior permission from Company A along with the
> organizers
> > of the meet-up.
> >
>
> Or Company B can just sponsor next meetup ;)
>
> -Mandar
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From duakapil at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 12:37:47 2015
From: duakapil at gmail.com (Kapsicum)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:07:47 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers]  [JOB] 3 open Positions for Python web development
Message-ID: <CAJcdkv-kGt-5_mPCBQF799Anbn9LmekQCBZ=j-dznNtNyK+gjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Location : whitefield, Bangalore

Skills:
OOPS
Basic Python
Web development is a plus

Contact me at duakapil at gmail.com or +919980999694

Thanks & Regards,

Kapil Dua
Skype: mitr2mitr
IRC: kaps
Mobile: +919980999694

Be confident, keep moving, and always improve.

From duakapil at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 12:46:32 2015
From: duakapil at gmail.com (Kapsicum)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:16:32 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] 3 open Positions for Python web development
In-Reply-To: <CAJcdkv-kGt-5_mPCBQF799Anbn9LmekQCBZ=j-dznNtNyK+gjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJcdkv-kGt-5_mPCBQF799Anbn9LmekQCBZ=j-dznNtNyK+gjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJcdkv-BZMadNEUSN21HFQbRNxC4JZ2C7zGmN0iTUWH5Yb3UiQ@mail.gmail.com>

Location : whitefield, Bangalore

Skills:
OOPS
Basic Python
Web development is a plus

Exp. 0-2 years

Contact me at duakapil at gmail.com or +919980999694


Thanks & Regards,

Kapil Dua
Skype: mitr2mitr
IRC: kaps
Mobile: +919980999694

Be confident, keep moving, and always improve.


On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Kapsicum <duakapil at gmail.com> wrote:

> Location : whitefield, Bangalore
>
> Skills:
> OOPS
> Basic Python
> Web development is a plus
>
> Contact me at duakapil at gmail.com or +919980999694
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> Kapil Dua
> Skype: mitr2mitr
> IRC: kaps
> Mobile: +919980999694
>
> Be confident, keep moving, and always improve.
>
>

From kracethekingmaker at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 21:05:54 2015
From: kracethekingmaker at gmail.com (kracekumar ramaraju)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 00:35:54 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CA+Brzm8DMX++AnKKD6C4OBrQ725sFFurNGZwGFvB-DLMe8pryA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAO5c=mngk2ZXUCf8iZtKhNtWDEunDw8xycbEsRz0_=S-Ss+Z5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks everyone for pitching in with suggestions. Every point is worth.
At this point we will focus what we're currently doing and pause this
initiative.

Thanks once again!

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:27 PM, sayantan bhattacharya <skb655952 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Exactly. So, in case the organizers are looking for sponsors for the next
> meetup, the search time reduces too.
> On Jul 20, 2015 3:03 PM, "Mandar Vaze / ????? ???" <mandarvaze at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > But in case Company B wishes to present too, they
> > > will have to get prior permission from Company A along with the
> > organizers
> > > of the meet-up.
> > >
> >
> > Or Company B can just sponsor next meetup ;)
> >
> > -Mandar
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 

*Thanks & Regardskracekumar"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus
Torvaldshttp://kracekumar.com <http://kracekumar.com>*

From sriramnrn at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 04:52:31 2015
From: sriramnrn at gmail.com (Sriram Narayanan)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:52:31 +0800
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAO5c=mngk2ZXUCf8iZtKhNtWDEunDw8xycbEsRz0_=S-Ss+Z5Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CANiY96bAbit83yEAWP6YiNB_jSr5n5z_rLp=JQTGOb52YHTM0A@mail.gmail.com>

Folks:

I'm an employee from one of the companies - ThoughtWorks - who have helped
make space available for meetups. I'm not around in Bangalore now-a-days,
so I ask one or the other colleague to help provide space.

Noufal has described at ThoughtWorks position on such meetups.

I've been chaperoning one tech meetup or the other at the ThoughtWorks
offices since 2006. I discuss with other folks who provide venues to such
meetups.

We techies at our organizations "get it" that other technies need space for
a meetup. We ask internally for space, and we then chaperone the meetup.
Once in a while, there are the odd non-techies who view the whole meetup as
a major marketing opportunity. Depending upon the community, this may or
may not be fine.

Once in a while - for other meetups like the Android user group hosted at
ThoughtWorks- some other company has even sponsored Pizzas. In return, they
were given a 10 minute slot to talk about their product. No one in the
audience ever felt that they were the product or felt offended in any way.
If anything, such sessions once in a while have even helped inspire
confidence that there are companies making products and offering services
using such technologies and in this space.

Fully aware that at the moment I'm inactive and am an arm-chair spectator
at best, I propose that the active community explore providing a 10 minute
slot for companies to speak about themselves and their products, and if
anyone feels that it's getting over commercialized, then discuss how to
address it.

Speaking from personal experience, slamming the door shut doesn't help
anyone.

-- Ram

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:05 AM, kracekumar ramaraju <
kracethekingmaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks everyone for pitching in with suggestions. Every point is worth.
> At this point we will focus what we're currently doing and pause this
> initiative.
>
> Thanks once again!
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:27 PM, sayantan bhattacharya <
> skb655952 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Exactly. So, in case the organizers are looking for sponsors for the next
> > meetup, the search time reduces too.
> > On Jul 20, 2015 3:03 PM, "Mandar Vaze / ????? ???" <mandarvaze at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > But in case Company B wishes to present too, they
> > > > will have to get prior permission from Company A along with the
> > > organizers
> > > > of the meet-up.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Or Company B can just sponsor next meetup ;)
> > >
> > > -Mandar
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > BangPypers mailing list
> > > BangPypers at python.org
> > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Thanks & Regardskracekumar"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus
> Torvaldshttp://kracekumar.com <http://kracekumar.com>*
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From balkrishnan.venkiteswaran at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 05:07:19 2015
From: balkrishnan.venkiteswaran at gmail.com (Balkrishnan V)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 08:37:19 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CANiY96bAbit83yEAWP6YiNB_jSr5n5z_rLp=JQTGOb52YHTM0A@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAO5c=mngk2ZXUCf8iZtKhNtWDEunDw8xycbEsRz0_=S-Ss+Z5Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAEOJR9CBTy9h2KkXx=-s9mmqvv-qG+6A90X2EfQVUVy5-6m5-A@mail.gmail.com>

Very well put Ram! I too share the same view that shutting the doors is not
a solution.

The dynamics of any committee-activities will be known only later and we
need to fine-tune the proceedings when a need arises.

We simply have to take small steps with the positive goal with which this
discussion had begun.

Best Wishes to this initiative!

Cheers
Balki

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Sriram Narayanan <sriramnrn at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Folks:
>
> I'm an employee from one of the companies - ThoughtWorks - who have helped
> make space available for meetups. I'm not around in Bangalore now-a-days,
> so I ask one or the other colleague to help provide space.
>
> Noufal has described at ThoughtWorks position on such meetups.
>
> I've been chaperoning one tech meetup or the other at the ThoughtWorks
> offices since 2006. I discuss with other folks who provide venues to such
> meetups.
>
> We techies at our organizations "get it" that other technies need space for
> a meetup. We ask internally for space, and we then chaperone the meetup.
> Once in a while, there are the odd non-techies who view the whole meetup as
> a major marketing opportunity. Depending upon the community, this may or
> may not be fine.
>
> Once in a while - for other meetups like the Android user group hosted at
> ThoughtWorks- some other company has even sponsored Pizzas. In return, they
> were given a 10 minute slot to talk about their product. No one in the
> audience ever felt that they were the product or felt offended in any way.
> If anything, such sessions once in a while have even helped inspire
> confidence that there are companies making products and offering services
> using such technologies and in this space.
>
> Fully aware that at the moment I'm inactive and am an arm-chair spectator
> at best, I propose that the active community explore providing a 10 minute
> slot for companies to speak about themselves and their products, and if
> anyone feels that it's getting over commercialized, then discuss how to
> address it.
>
> Speaking from personal experience, slamming the door shut doesn't help
> anyone.
>
> -- Ram
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:05 AM, kracekumar ramaraju <
> kracethekingmaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks everyone for pitching in with suggestions. Every point is worth.
> > At this point we will focus what we're currently doing and pause this
> > initiative.
> >
> > Thanks once again!
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:27 PM, sayantan bhattacharya <
> > skb655952 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Exactly. So, in case the organizers are looking for sponsors for the
> next
> > > meetup, the search time reduces too.
> > > On Jul 20, 2015 3:03 PM, "Mandar Vaze / ????? ???" <
> mandarvaze at gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But in case Company B wishes to present too, they
> > > > > will have to get prior permission from Company A along with the
> > > > organizers
> > > > > of the meet-up.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Or Company B can just sponsor next meetup ;)
> > > >
> > > > -Mandar
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > BangPypers mailing list
> > > > BangPypers at python.org
> > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > BangPypers mailing list
> > > BangPypers at python.org
> > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > *Thanks & Regardskracekumar"Talk is cheap, show me the code" -- Linus
> > Torvaldshttp://kracekumar.com <http://kracekumar.com>*
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Tue Jul 21 07:09:55 2015
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:39:55 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAEOJR9CBTy9h2KkXx=-s9mmqvv-qG+6A90X2EfQVUVy5-6m5-A@mail.gmail.com>
 (Balkrishnan V.'s message of "Tue, 21 Jul 2015 08:37:19 +0530")
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <87fv4irt98.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>


I still think it's a worthwhile experiment and should be tried. If
things go awry, it can be cancelled. 

-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From kracethekingmaker at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 13:14:08 2015
From: kracethekingmaker at gmail.com (kracekumar ramaraju)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:44:08 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CANiY96bAbit83yEAWP6YiNB_jSr5n5z_rLp=JQTGOb52YHTM0A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAO5c=mmTRYScGaSwd5DjqBXhdPAw1tr37a+8Szxxz2pz9cMkKQ@mail.gmail.com>

[...]
>
> Once in a while - for other meetups like the Android user group hosted at
> ThoughtWorks- some other company has even sponsored Pizzas. In return, they
> were given a 10 minute slot to talk about their product. No one in the
> audience ever felt that they were the product or felt offended in any way.
> If anything, such sessions once in a while have even helped inspire
> confidence that there are companies making products and offering services
> using such technologies and in this space.
> reduces too.
>
>
Actually we offer small 5 minutes slot for host. In the past companies have
used it.
Sometimes this info is lost in the communication/no tech member is present
during meetup.
There is no second thought about this.

From anand21nanda at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 16:13:29 2015
From: anand21nanda at gmail.com (Anand Reddy Pandikunta)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 19:43:29 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CAO5c=mmTRYScGaSwd5DjqBXhdPAw1tr37a+8Szxxz2pz9cMkKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAKQ+-3zG7YdJO3Wai3GFDetP=hLQv2g8CsDdt_tZ6_5VW8y4Qw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHX9ajShN6MupcUuZ5==2j4CbBYuObQNvixW2OE7FJojhWQW=g@mail.gmail.com>
 <878uabtl69.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
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Message-ID: <CALCtiO4gA4_rV_fJUV-6CdAyzEC8k3dVsNy14wq0K18A2UOx5A@mail.gmail.com>

Any thoughts about Python job board?

Regards,

Anand Reddy Pandikunta (@ChillarAnand)
www.avilpage.com


On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:44 PM, kracekumar ramaraju <
kracethekingmaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> [...]
> >
> > Once in a while - for other meetups like the Android user group hosted at
> > ThoughtWorks- some other company has even sponsored Pizzas. In return,
> they
> > were given a 10 minute slot to talk about their product. No one in the
> > audience ever felt that they were the product or felt offended in any
> way.
> > If anything, such sessions once in a while have even helped inspire
> > confidence that there are companies making products and offering services
> > using such technologies and in this space.
> > reduces too.
> >
> >
> Actually we offer small 5 minutes slot for host. In the past companies have
> used it.
> Sometimes this info is lost in the communication/no tech member is present
> during meetup.
> There is no second thought about this.
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From vnbang2003 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 16:23:06 2015
From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 19:53:06 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Connecting developers and companies
In-Reply-To: <CALCtiO4gA4_rV_fJUV-6CdAyzEC8k3dVsNy14wq0K18A2UOx5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5c=mni7U-0moWxes_imQCJptxE8n4f1RmXKwR9f63+q=FtVw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAHX9ajTV3ditdz40QGr6KFnO8FYBjZN91KFrSQ3egiaZN9+TdA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Anand Reddy Pandikunta <
anand21nanda at gmail.com> wrote:

> Any thoughts about Python job board?
>
> I have plan to work on it .
Let me know if you can join http://python.org.in/jobs/
Right now it's static page so we need to plan to see how to make it dynamic.

From m at pd.io  Thu Jul 23 13:53:35 2015
From: m at pd.io (Pratik Vyas)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:23:35 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [X-Post] ERPNext Conference 2015
Message-ID: <CALb5_JpsMewrua6HESnDPg42YtUiz55pg__9yav89h9X3ParLA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey!

We are excited to announce the ERPNext Conference 2015 on October 9th
in Mumbai. This is a great opportunity for ERPNext users, developers
and open source enthusiasts to meet, share ideas and network with the
community.

For this conference, we are delighted to have Jordan Hubbard, the
co-creator of the FreeBSD project, CTO at iX Systems and former
Director of Unix at Apple as our guest speaker.

Please reply to this thread or drop us an email to
conference at erpnext.com if you have any questions.

https://conf.erpnext.com/2015

The entry fee is Rs. 500 and it includes lunch.

--
The ERPNext Team

From gora at mimirtech.com  Thu Jul 23 19:42:40 2015
From: gora at mimirtech.com (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:12:40 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [X-Post] ERPNext Conference 2015
In-Reply-To: <CALb5_JpsMewrua6HESnDPg42YtUiz55pg__9yav89h9X3ParLA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALb5_JpsMewrua6HESnDPg42YtUiz55pg__9yav89h9X3ParLA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACiMRG+iJQeddJfPtKBNjLkZ1UnSO-v1pNzLJYDwfwZtnEAQMw@mail.gmail.com>

On 23 July 2015 at 17:23, Pratik Vyas <m at pd.io> wrote:
> Hey!
>
> We are excited to announce the ERPNext Conference 2015 on October 9th
> in Mumbai. This is a great opportunity for ERPNext users, developers
> and open source enthusiasts to meet, share ideas and network with the
> community.
>
> For this conference, we are delighted to have Jordan Hubbard, the
> co-creator of the FreeBSD project, CTO at iX Systems and former
> Director of Unix at Apple as our guest speaker.
>
> Please reply to this thread or drop us an email to
> conference at erpnext.com if you have any questions.
>
> https://conf.erpnext.com/2015
>
> The entry fee is Rs. 500 and it includes lunch.

And, maybe you would care to explain how this is relevant to this
group, or are you just spamming everyone willy-nilly?

Regards,
Gora

From mailme at hsps.in  Thu Jul 23 20:00:52 2015
From: mailme at hsps.in (Harisankar P S)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:30:52 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [X-Post] ERPNext Conference 2015
In-Reply-To: <CACiMRG+iJQeddJfPtKBNjLkZ1UnSO-v1pNzLJYDwfwZtnEAQMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALb5_JpsMewrua6HESnDPg42YtUiz55pg__9yav89h9X3ParLA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACiMRG+iJQeddJfPtKBNjLkZ1UnSO-v1pNzLJYDwfwZtnEAQMw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADHN3jUyOZNCrjSJTcXm=BqM4_qMtzFYfizJ2KurqKKOLDPiCw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Gora Mohanty <gora at mimirtech.com> wrote:

>
> And, maybe you would care to explain how this is relevant to this
> group, or are you just spamming everyone willy-nilly?
>

?ERPNext is an open source tool released under GPLv3 license, developed
using Python.?


-- 
Harisankar P S
https://twitter.com/coderhs | *http://csnipp.com/coderhs
<http://csnipp.com/coderhs>*

From gora at mimirtech.com  Thu Jul 23 20:05:15 2015
From: gora at mimirtech.com (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:35:15 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [X-Post] ERPNext Conference 2015
In-Reply-To: <CADHN3jUyOZNCrjSJTcXm=BqM4_qMtzFYfizJ2KurqKKOLDPiCw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALb5_JpsMewrua6HESnDPg42YtUiz55pg__9yav89h9X3ParLA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACiMRG+iJQeddJfPtKBNjLkZ1UnSO-v1pNzLJYDwfwZtnEAQMw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADHN3jUyOZNCrjSJTcXm=BqM4_qMtzFYfizJ2KurqKKOLDPiCw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACiMRGJ5Ncq-wkWiCtKo4fN9XdtOVQdgNZ0c9dAqLL+wtcZgPA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Thank you for the explanation. Please do include such an explanation
in future postings.

Regards,
Gora


On 23 July 2015 at 23:30, Harisankar P S <mailme at hsps.in> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Gora Mohanty <gora at mimirtech.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> And, maybe you would care to explain how this is relevant to this
>> group, or are you just spamming everyone willy-nilly?
>>
>
> ERPNext is an open source tool released under GPLv3 license, developed
> using Python.
>
>
> --
> Harisankar P S
> https://twitter.com/coderhs | *http://csnipp.com/coderhs
> <http://csnipp.com/coderhs>*
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

From m at pd.io  Thu Jul 23 21:13:25 2015
From: m at pd.io (Pratik Vyas)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 00:43:25 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [X-Post] ERPNext Conference 2015
In-Reply-To: <CACiMRGJ5Ncq-wkWiCtKo4fN9XdtOVQdgNZ0c9dAqLL+wtcZgPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALb5_JpsMewrua6HESnDPg42YtUiz55pg__9yav89h9X3ParLA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACiMRG+iJQeddJfPtKBNjLkZ1UnSO-v1pNzLJYDwfwZtnEAQMw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADHN3jUyOZNCrjSJTcXm=BqM4_qMtzFYfizJ2KurqKKOLDPiCw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACiMRGJ5Ncq-wkWiCtKo4fN9XdtOVQdgNZ0c9dAqLL+wtcZgPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALb5_Jo-6PbcmqcvK6Ez+q6EKvf2ekE2ivo6Wh2fMN91GHEGog@mail.gmail.com>

> Thank you for the explanation. Please do include such an explanation
> in future postings.
>

Yup, I missed that. Will be careful in future.

Thanks Harisankar!

From senthil at uthcode.com  Fri Jul 24 20:49:09 2015
From: senthil at uthcode.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:49:09 -0700
Subject: [BangPypers] [X-Post] ERPNext Conference 2015
In-Reply-To: <CALb5_Jo-6PbcmqcvK6Ez+q6EKvf2ekE2ivo6Wh2fMN91GHEGog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALb5_JpsMewrua6HESnDPg42YtUiz55pg__9yav89h9X3ParLA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACiMRG+iJQeddJfPtKBNjLkZ1UnSO-v1pNzLJYDwfwZtnEAQMw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADHN3jUyOZNCrjSJTcXm=BqM4_qMtzFYfizJ2KurqKKOLDPiCw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACiMRGJ5Ncq-wkWiCtKo4fN9XdtOVQdgNZ0c9dAqLL+wtcZgPA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALb5_Jo-6PbcmqcvK6Ez+q6EKvf2ekE2ivo6Wh2fMN91GHEGog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPOVWORj28qg1-VO9LeF8XsWjeDfXYepUMFYXoYcAAS8oAsD0A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Pratik Vyas <m at pd.io> wrote:

> > Thank you for the explanation. Please do include such an explanation
> > in future postings.
> >
>
> Yup, I missed that. Will be careful in future.


Yeah, it is impressive:

https://github.com/frappe/erpnext

With a name like Frapp?, I thought you were some french company. :-)

All the best!

From rmehta at gmail.com  Sat Jul 25 13:26:36 2015
From: rmehta at gmail.com (Rushabh Mehta)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:56:36 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [X-Post] ERPNext Conference 2015
In-Reply-To: <mailman.23.1437818401.25110.bangpypers@python.org>
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> 
> Yeah, it is impressive:
> 
> https://github.com/frappe/erpnext
> 
> With a name like Frapp?, I thought you were some french company. :-)
> 

Thanks! Frappe is for "Framework + apps?. We have written our own Python Framework https://frappe.io <https://frappe.io/> (https://github.com/frappe/frappe <https://github.com/frappe/frappe>)

best,
Rushabh

From sanjay at wwstay.com  Wed Jul 29 06:02:27 2015
From: sanjay at wwstay.com (Sanjay Singh)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 09:32:27 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] WWStay - Senior Software full stack python developer -
	VC funded.
Message-ID: <4E074532-1CA8-49FE-8BF3-59F248DAAF73@wwstay.com>

WW Stay founded in 2012 and run by industry veterans from Kellog, IBM, UCLA, Computer Associates is a highly profitable B2B travel startup bringing disruption to the status quo in the global travel industry. We have grown at a 400% in 2013-2014 and provide service in over 100 countries to over 130+ clients. Wwstay is looking for an astute technical engineering lead who will participate in the next phase of our growth to be 100+ strong. 

The senior software engineer would have to build and grow a team of talented committed engineers, from IITs and other global leading institutes. We are building innovative products that would help bridge sales, operations, customers and suppliers. Wwstay is looking for a hands on engineer who can lead by example and inspire the team to grow the company with enterprise coding and engineering practices. 

The following technical skills are strongly desired: 

- Extensive experience (+8 years) building web apps 

- Understand the lifecycle of a web app fully - browser side, server side, scalability, performance 

- Programming - ability to read/write enterprise quality code and make right decisions 

- Full stack experience from front end all the way to DB persistence 

- Generalist programmer with the ability to quickly learn and use new languages 

- Professional experience in Django, Angular JS and python. 

Design and develop scalable, secure and high performance solutions 

- Experience working with relational and non-relational databases 

- At ease working with Unix and can administer a few boxes, if required. 

Has worked with AWS and the different 'lego' blocks 

- Active on Github/open source community 

- Can write maintainable, clean code and enforce it through code reviews 

To hop on the wwstay rocket please email : careers at wwstay.com or sanjay at wwstay.com

https://wwstay.com 

Perks: 

We have a wonderful friendly team with extra benefits such as team lunches, stock options, participation in learning and trips to conferences, over standard ones like medical and PF.

From aritra.ghosh007 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 12:55:10 2015
From: aritra.ghosh007 at gmail.com (aritra ghosh)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:25:10 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Calling folks for Djangothon
Message-ID: <CAHazJBxCF1KFFdy7E8SoRJgfhFHuBGJpemqUXRY7JJ4YbkdZoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

HackerEarth will be hosting a first of its kind Djangothon on Aug 22-23.
Interested members can get more details here :
https://www.hackerearth.com/djangothon/


Best,
Aritra