[Baypiggies] Baypiggies.net is moving
charney at charneyday.com
Thu Dec 1 19:52:19 CET 2005
I want to thank you for all that you have done for the group. I have
enjoyed it immensely.
I am also sorry about the site corruption and the mis-attribution. I
have had that happen to me and it is not fun :-(!
As long as people like yourself continue to contribute to others, the
Open Source community will grow, mature and prosper. As it does so, all
of us benefit. Again, thanks.
Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:
> The Baypiggies.net domain is moving. I'll be updating the DNS and
> transferring the domain.
> Until the DNS finishes propagating, it can be reached here: http://
> For historical interest, here are the events that transpired:
> 0) I founded the group in 1999. Like Guido, I really relish that
> crowded group we had one night at the CoffeeNet. That was great.
> 1) I turned over the keys to the web site.
> 2) When I got the web standards bug and re-did the web site in 2004,
> turning it over with the understanding that WEB STANDARDS WOULD BE
> 3) During a job interview a few months ago, I was dissed for the non-
> standard markup on the BayPiggies page, because my name was on it and
> I was interviewing for a web design position. Isn't that special? I
> didn't get the job. I was pissed off, thought I sent a note at the
> time, but I can't find it in my outbox.
> 4) In early November, I bumped up my hosting plan at TextDrive, which
> would allow for Django or TurboGears to be used for the site (or
> pretty much anything else). I wrote the four people (Wes, Tony, Aahz,
> and Danny) to see if they were okay with moving it. Aahz wanted to
> change the site using emacs, didn't want anything fancy -- but this
> wouldn't work because I could only offer an sftp-only account.
> 5) I looked at the markup and freaked (45 validation errors for an
> index page, including markup that was NEVER valid). I wrote a note
> giving them 48 hours to fix it (which I would have extended HAD
> ANYONE BOTHERED TO EMAIL AND ASK).
> 6) I checked the front page on the w3's validator, saw the same
> number of email errors, and took the site down and locked out the
> four logins.
> 7) Danny contacted me offlist. I told him more (than I'm going to
> write here) about what's happened, why I left BayPiggies, and why in
> particular, there are some members (Aahz in particular) whom I'd
> never care to see again.
> 8) I was offered a job, but I'd have to move out of the bay area,
> meaning my ability to host the domain and/or DNS under the current
> setup is going away entirely (it's currently hosted from my living
> room). All my existing domains will be hosted on my hosting account,
> which typically hasn't been the case in the past.
> 9) I offered to transfer the domain. I refused offers to purchase the
> domain by non-members. I put a tarball of the old website on my
> strongspace.com account so that it could be retrieved. I gave the
> information to Danny.
> 10) It's now in the process of being transferred.
> And Giles, yes, I make my living doing Ruby development (specifically
> Ruby on Rails), but that's not really why this happened....
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